McCain Vs Obama.. which would be worse?

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#1 MishYu
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Would McCain have been a worse choice as president because of his incompetence, or is Obama the scarier choice because he is too competent?

Would you rather have a stupid president in office who you could see through, or a smart president who could sugar coat everything? What I'm asking is, should we be afraid of Obama in office because the man is too smart to be completely trusted?

What do you think?

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#2 stupid4
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This was the dumbest topic ever created.

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#3 Pirate700
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I don't care what side you are on, calling McCain incompetent is idiotic. :|

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#4 DarkPrinceXC
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This was the dumbest topic ever created.

stupid4
Pretty much. How the hell could anyone possibly answer this?
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#5 deactivated-583e5f64e0a7e
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Not even Captain Planet will be able to save you.
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#6 Pirate700
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This was the dumbest topic ever created.

stupid4

It certainly ranks up there.

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#7 Head_of_games
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That's why we should have elected Mike Huckabee! He's Chuck Norris Aproved!

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#8 MishYu
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lol *face palm* (English is not my first language)

ok, that was a horrible example. let me clear my damn head for a sec.. this is my first post so I'm trying to make sense.. guess I failed horribly in that department. lol

My question was: who do you think would've been a better leader in this crisis and why (Doesn't have to be restricted to McCain & Obama)?

My personal opinion: I thought Obama was going to be the better choice because he had a clearer approach than McCain. McCain seemed too old and confused, and his ideals seemed too much like the Bush administration to me at the time. However, since Obama has been in office, there have been some questionable events that is making me worry that we're just getting a slicker wolf to watch the sheeps.

Does that clear anything up?

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lol *face palm* (English is not my first language)

ok, that was a horrible example. let me clear my damn head for a sec.. this is my first post so I'm trying to make sense.. guess I failed horribly in that department. lol

My question was: who do you think would've been a better leader in this crisis and why (Doesn't have to be restricted to McCain & Obama)?

My personal opinion: I thought Obama was going to be the better choice because he had a clearer approach than McCain. McCain seemed too old and confused, and his ideals seemed too much like the Bush administration to me at the time. However, since Obama has been in office, there have been some questionable events that is making me worry that we're just getting a slicker wolf to watch the sheeps.

Does that clear anything up?

MishYu

It is what it is. Stop the speculation. Obama is president, deal with it.

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#10 aliblabla2007
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The OP made me facepalm.

Actually, this whole thread made me facepalm. You're several months overdue for a debate about the election, TC. Obama's already president. No bickering in this thread will change that.

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#11 GamerForca
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Yeah.. uh, wut?

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#12 MishYu
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The OP made me facepalm.

Actually, this whole thread made me facepalm. You're several months overdue for a debate about the election, TC. Obama's already president. No bickering in this thread will change that.

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I'm not trying to bicker. I just thought it was an interesting reflection/debate, but ok. End of discussion.
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#13 Dub_c6969
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How can you be to competent? I wish i was as competent as Obama just in different areas like Finance.
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#14 raven_squad
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Why do people feel OP's need to be trashed? If you think the thread is dumb, I suggest you just let it drift off. Posting *facepalms* and "fails" is worthy of the same treatment.
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#15 Jakesta7
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We dont really kno but i think Obama is a little worse. Although, they both arent good, IMO. Tho Bush didnt help!

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#16 swazidoughman
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I didn't like either too much, but I would rather have McCain in office because he isn't as much of a socialist compared to Obama.

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#17 MishYu
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Why do people feel OP's need to be trashed? If you think the thread is dumb, I suggest you just let it drift off. Posting *facepalms* and "fails" is worthy of the same treatment. raven_squad
Thank you.
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#18 zeorshadow19
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I didn't like either too much, but I would rather have McCain in office because he isn't as much of a socialist compared to Obama.

swazidoughman

He didn't have knowledge of the economy and thought it was fine.

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#19 snakes_codec
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this thread is like sugar coating a turd and selling it as a doughnut no ones going to eat it .

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#20 T_P_O
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What is America's fear of socialism anyway, the only countries really afraid of socialism otherwise were Nazi Germany and Mussolini's Italy.

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#21 MoonMarvel
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What is America's fear of socialism anyway, the only countries really afraid of socialism otherwise were Nazi Germany and Mussolini's Italy.

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We like freedom on every level and hate government. And this thread maybe locked.
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#22 maheo30
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I didn't like McCain at all but understood Obama to be extremely dishonest. After seeing Obama's first few months I am even more convinced of his dishonesty. I know McCain would not have been this big a disaster. I don't like his policies but even he wouldn't have been this aweful.
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#23 snakes_codec
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[QUOTE="T_P_O"]

What is America's fear of socialism anyway, the only countries really afraid of socialism otherwise were Nazi Germany and Mussolini's Italy.

MoonMarvel

We like freedom on every level and hate government. And this thread maybe locked.

so your telling me people in my country (Britain) ain't free on every level ?

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#24 Vandalvideo
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McCain would have definitely been worse. I mean we haven't even seen a comprehensive peice of counter-legislation from them in awhile.
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#25 MoonMarvel
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[QUOTE="snakes_codec"]

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="T_P_O"]

What is America's fear of socialism anyway, the only countries really afraid of socialism otherwise were Nazi Germany and Mussolini's Italy.

We like freedom on every level and hate government. And this thread maybe locked.

so your telling me people in my country (Britain) ain't free on every level ?

Britain isn't seen as socialist by many. Even a lot of socialists don't see it as socialist.
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#26 -Sun_Tzu-
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I knew the warping was bad, but I didn't know it was this bad. Who knew a simple glitch could send you into a debate from the last year? Anyways, to answer the TC question, McCain showed himself during the campaign to be erratic and at times he just seemed really incompetent. Those aren't exactly the attributes of a good leader.

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[QUOTE="snakes_codec"]

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]We like freedom on every level and hate government. And this thread maybe locked.MoonMarvel

so your telling me people in my country (Britain) ain't free on every level ?

Britain isn't seen as socialist by many. Even a lot of socialists don't see it as socialist.

i would actually agree most English people are very conservative its mainly the Scots & the Welsh who are socialists i myself don't label myself a supporter of either side of the argument but i will say i'm voting conservative next time there's an election .

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#28 T_P_O
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It probably doesn't matter who you vote, Labour are more right wing than ever and the Conservatives are trying to be like Labour were in 1997.

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#29 MoonMarvel
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[QUOTE="snakes_codec"]

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="snakes_codec"]

so your telling me people in my country (Britain) ain't free on every level ?

Britain isn't seen as socialist by many. Even a lot of socialists don't see it as socialist.

i would actually agree most English people are very conservative its mainly the Scots & the Welsh who are socialists i myself don't label myself a supporter of either side of the argument but i will say i'm voting conservative next time there's an election .

A lot of Americans are the same, we get annoyed with the government having too much control. Even if it is free health care most would rather have a choice and pay for it themselfs. Most European nations I would say are Social-Capitialist, a mix of both but not 100% either.
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#30 MoonMarvel
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It probably doesn't matter who you vote, Labour are more right wing than ever and the Conservatives are trying to be like Labour were in 1997.

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What was labour like in 1997?
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#31 T_P_O
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[QUOTE="T_P_O"]

It probably doesn't matter who you vote, Labour are more right wing than ever and the Conservatives are trying to be like Labour were in 1997.

MoonMarvel

What was labour like in 1997?

Shifted to the right wing in order to attract more C1 and A/B class votes.

Oh, and focused a lot on using spin tactics and the media image of the leader, Tony Blair.

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#32 honkyjoe
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There are so many problems in the US as of right now that I don't feel comfortable with any living person in the Oval Office. However, I think Obama is doing a better job than McCain would've.

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#33 snakes_codec
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There are so many problems in the US as of right now that I don't feel comfortable with any living person in the Oval Office. However, I think Obama is doing a better job than McCain would've.

honkyjoe

should we dig up FDR and put him in the oval office .

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#34 battlefront23
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Obama, due to his ridiculous spending he's planning to do, although McCain wouldn't be that much better. Only if Americans would've voted for Ron Paul. :|

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#35 stupid4
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What is America's fear of socialism anyway, the only countries really afraid of socialism otherwise were Nazi Germany and Mussolini's Italy.

T_P_O

Maybe because it sucks and it doesn't work. Just maybe.....

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#36 BoyToy5
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mccain wouldnt be much better
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#37 MoonMarvel
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Obama, due to his ridiculous spending he's planning to do, although McCain wouldn't be that much better. Only if Americans would've voted for Ron Paul. :|

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Thank GOD ALMIGHTY we didn't! Ron Paul would have killed us! Every time I heard that man talk he was always against any spending.
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#39 MoonMarvel
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[QUOTE="T_P_O"]

[QUOTE="stupid4"]

[QUOTE="T_P_O"]

What is America's fear of socialism anyway, the only countries really afraid of socialism otherwise were Nazi Germany and Mussolini's Italy.

Maybe because it sucks and it doesn't work. Just maybe.....

Well, America's own economy seems to **** up a lot.

All do, no system is perfect.
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#40 snakes_codec
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[QUOTE="snakes_codec"]

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"] Britain isn't seen as socialist by many. Even a lot of socialists don't see it as socialist.MoonMarvel

i would actually agree most English people are very conservative its mainly the Scots & the Welsh who are socialists i myself don't label myself a supporter of either side of the argument but i will say i'm voting conservative next time there's an election .

A lot of Americans are the same, we get annoyed with the government having too much control. Even if it is free health care most would rather have a choice and pay for it themselfs. Most European nations I would say are Social-Capitialist, a mix of both but not 100% either.

i would have to disagree with you on the rest of Europe from what i have personally experienced the rest of Europe to be very socialist i think Britain is the only true conservative country in Europe these days that's why we are trying to leave the EU because a big wast of are tax's payers money plus it stinks of old Europe facissam being reborn .