Miami Heat will be just as good as the Bulls in the 90s..

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#1 ColonelDrakePS3
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Thats right folks, Lebron made the right choice and now going to the Heat with Wade and Bosch and possibly Derek Fisher, (The heat is currently talking with Derek Fisher) the Heat will be a new great era in the NBA. Im not even a huge Basketball fan but i am now interested.

No team will be able to top the Heat now.

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#2 T_REX305
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ugh another thread about them. makes me sick. btw you spelled Bosh wrong. :roll:

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#3 ColonelDrakePS3
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ugh another thread about them. makes me sick. btw you spelled Bosh wrong. :roll:

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The Heat will be great, im getting on the hype train. Already have my Heat Lebron jersey on pre order
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#4 F1_2004
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Lebron hasn't been able to win ****, he's not gonna start now :lol:
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#5 Aspen706
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I agree, I'm going to go on record and say they will when win the whole thing this upcomeing year.
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#6 T_REX305
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Lebron hasn't been able to win ****, he's not gonna start now :lol:F1_2004

yeah hes not gonna get one since Kobe is in his way.

*RUNS*

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#7 MUSH_IS_PWNs
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Lebron hasn't been able to win ****, he's not gonna start now :lol:F1_2004
Dwayne Wade has won a title with a worse team so why wouldn't they win? Also the cavs have had the best record in the NBA 2 years in a row with a team that was almost just Lebron and now they have 2 more of the best players in the NBA. How could they not win?
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#8 Mafiree
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The heat do not have a "team" yet. I don't understand how you can make a claim that they will win multiple titles until you see their supporting cast. Because currently the celtics and lakers will dominate the heat in the post.
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The Heat won't get out of the 2nd round unless they find good role players to come off the bench...hard when they have only 12 mill to spend.
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#10 BreakTheseLinks
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The amount of hype this team is generating is totally outrageous. They aren't even a team, they need to feel thier roster with role players/a benchbefore they can be called a team. And Dwayne Wade saying, "arguably one of the best trios in history" is laugh considering they haven't even played a game together. Seriously, I'm suprised they could fit all three of thier heads in the same building.

And as a Lakers fan I just have to say one thing: You got to go through LA to win the title. And I don't see them being close next season. I think the Bulls are gonna take the East.

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#11 x8VXU6
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Im still a Lakers fan but I want to see Bosh with a ring but Heat was my second fav* team cuz of Wade so if they do win I will be happy

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#12 BreakTheseLinks
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[QUOTE="F1_2004"]Lebron hasn't been able to win ****, he's not gonna start now :lol:MUSH_IS_PWNs
Dwayne Wade has won a title with a worse team so why wouldn't they win? Also the cavs have had the best record in the NBA 2 years in a row with a team that was almost just Lebron and now they have 2 more of the best players in the NBA. How could they not win?

Chemistry. I don't care how good of friends they claim to be off the court, egos can and will get in the way. And being a team involves everyone not just the "big 3".
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If your worried about the Heat Bench, dont worry. Ring Chasers have been blowing up the phone line in the front office.

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#14 EMOEVOLUTION
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He did not make the right choice. And the Heat won't even make it to the championships. He should have opted for loyalty. If you win the wrong way, it doesn't mean anything. And I believe he will come to regret this decision. Maybe not today, maybe not 10 years from now, but before he dies, he will.
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#15 rawsavon
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As of right now, they only have Mario Chalmers under contract. They only have the cap space to make 1 significant move...looks like Mike Miller D. Fischer is really old and can not be counted on to carry the PG role the whole season So the big 3 are going to have to play 40+ min. a night for 100 games (82 + playoffs) carrying the entire load They are ****ed if one gets hurt Lebron actually had a much better setup with the Bulls
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Kobe will stop them

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#17 MigsPlusEight
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No team will be able to top the Heat now.

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Really, now?

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#18 Jazz_Fan
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With the altered rules. Yeah, I say it's safe to think they will be as dominate in this league. Just have to wait and see.
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#19 Darkknight_13x
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I'll laugh if they end up like the 2004 Lakers and lose in the Finals.
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#20 Parandrus
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"] Lebron actually had a much better setup with the Bulls

It would have made so much more sense for him to go there.
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#21 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="Parandrus"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] Lebron actually had a much better setup with the Bulls

It would have made so much more sense for him to go there.

They (Bulls) have a really good team of solid B players + 2 A- players in Boozer and Rose. I don't really see how Wade and Lebron will be as good together as they were apart...they do most of the same things.
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[QUOTE="Parandrus"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] Lebron actually had a much better setup with the Bulls

It would have made so much more sense for him to go there.

All that would be discussed would be LeBron living in Jordan's shadow in Chicago. What did he have in Chicago anyway? Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah (who is the same type of player as Andy Varejao). Who else? Luol? That gives the Bulls two small forwards. Don't even say Carlos Boozer because it's not guaranteed that he signs if LeBron does. Don't forget that Boozer left the Cavaliers which could have given LeBron a real right-hand man for these past seven years.
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#23 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="dodgerblue13"][QUOTE="Parandrus"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] Lebron actually had a much better setup with the Bulls

It would have made so much more sense for him to go there.

All that would be discussed would be LeBron living in Jordan's shadow in Chicago. What did he have in Chicago anyway? Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah (who is the same type of player as Andy Varejao). Who else? Luol? That gives the Bulls two small forwards. Don't even say Carlos Boozer because it's not guaranteed that he signs if LeBron does. Don't forget that Boozer left the Cavaliers which could have given LeBron a real right-hand man for these past seven years.

Boozer signed first and reached out to lebron.... So he would have a legitimate, good point guard in Rose (something severely lacking in Miami...even if they land Fischer) He would have a low post presence just about as good as Bosch He would have a 'motor' guy that does it all in Noah He would have a genuine bench, Miami has 1 player under contract and no cap space -the bulls would actually have all the pieces to a puzzle -the heat have 2 of the same piece (in Lebron and Wade) and 1 other piece in Bosch
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#24 dodgerblue13
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="dodgerblue13"][QUOTE="Parandrus"] It would have made so much more sense for him to go there.

All that would be discussed would be LeBron living in Jordan's shadow in Chicago. What did he have in Chicago anyway? Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah (who is the same type of player as Andy Varejao). Who else? Luol? That gives the Bulls two small forwards. Don't even say Carlos Boozer because it's not guaranteed that he signs if LeBron does. Don't forget that Boozer left the Cavaliers which could have given LeBron a real right-hand man for these past seven years.

Boozer signed first and reached out to lebron.... So he would have a legitimate, good point guard in Rose (something severely lacking in Miami...even if they land Fischer) He would have a low post presence just about as good as Bosch He would have a 'motor' guy that does it all in Noah He would have a genuine bench, Miami has 1 player under contract and no cap space -the bulls would actually have all the pieces to a puzzle -the heat have 2 of the same piece (in Lebron and Wade) and 1 other piece in Bosch

Mixed up my phrasing. But Boozer defiled the Cavaliers. LeBron would never have teamed up with him again. -So he'd have had a great 1, something I said he'd have if he had signed there. -Again, the whole lying to the city thing Boozer did... -He had a motor guy in Cleveland. -He'd have had players on the bench, not necessarily great bench guys. -Who is hitting jumpers for them? Don't say Korver because who knows if he'd have had the chance to sign there if they took on LeBron. -LeBron and Wade aren't the same player... -Boozer can't do anything against tall, long defenders. Garnett, as old as he is, would cause problems for him. -Don't forget the pressure he'd face with the whole Jordan thing. Not that he won't face pressure in Miami, it just won't be comparing him to the best ever one-on-one. -I never said the Heat offered him more, just that the Bulls weren't everything he needed. They'll do everything they can to bring in Mike Miller and to keep Udonis Haslem. Don't forget three capable rookies coming in. There will be plenty of veterans willing to play for very little money in order to make a good playoff run. In the playoffs, veterans are key. Chalmers, Wade, LeBron, Bosh, Haslem, a bench full of veteran role players, and three seemingly-promising rookies isn't too bad a team, is it?
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#25 rawsavon
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-I never said the Heat offered him more, just that the Bulls weren't everything he needed. They'll do everything they can to bring in Mike Miller and to keep Udonis Haslem. Don't forget three capable rookies coming in. There will be plenty of veterans willing to play for very little money in order to make a good playoff run. In the playoffs, veterans are key. Chalmers, Wade, LeBron, Bosh, Haslem, a bench full of veteran role players, and three seemingly-promising rookies isn't too bad a team, is it?dodgerblue13
The whole Boozer thing is something neither you or I can comment on...who knows what the feelings are b/w them -Lebron may hate him or he may understand that it was just business or they may have buried the hatchet...who knows The pressure thing...I will give you that I did not say that he did not have a motor guy in Cleveland...but they lack that in Miami (do you want any of the big 3 diving for every loose ball and rebound, risking injury) The Heat do not have the space to bring in a lot of veterans...there is still the veteran minimum It looks like they might get Miller (a good player) That means no room left, that means no bench (Chalmers is garbage) All they can afford to bring in (if they sign Miller) will be young, cheap guys (lower min salary) The Bulls were a good team w/out Boozer or Lebron...they would be great with them both -though signing a 3 point shooter would be a move they needed to make Boozer may not be a great defender, but he is just as good as Bosch in that area (Bosch is not stopping anyone in the low post)
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#26 Fuhgeddabouditt
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I would literally lmao (:shock: ) if the HEAT fail to win a championship with WADE, LeBron, and Bosh on the team. And as for Fisher, I dont think hes going anywhere. Lakers want another 3-peat and I believe Phil Jackson is coming back for one more yr just for that reason.
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#27 MrLions
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[QUOTE="Parandrus"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] Lebron actually had a much better setup with the Bulls

It would have made so much more sense for him to go there.

Exactly he'd have his name up there with MJ(his "idol") If He had won championships.
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"] The whole Boozer thing is something neither you or I can comment on...who knows what the feelings are b/w them -Lebron may hate him or he may understand that it was just business or they may have buried the hatchet...who knows The pressure thing...I will give you that I did not say that he did not have a motor guy in Cleveland...but they lack that in Miami (do you want any of the big 3 diving for every loose ball and rebound, risking injury) The Heat do not have the space to bring in a lot of veterans...there is still the veteran minimum It looks like they might get Miller (a good player) That means no room left, that means no bench (Chalmers is garbage) All they can afford to bring in (if they sign Miller) will be young, cheap guys (lower min salary) The Bulls were a good team w/out Boozer or Lebron...they would be great with them both -though signing a 3 point shooter would be a move they needed to make Boozer may not be a great defender, but he is just as good as Bosch in that area (Bosch is not stopping anyone in the low post)

-About the Boozer thing, fair enough. -There are plenty of hustle guys that would be willing to head to Miami to scrounge up some loose balls. It's not as though hustle players are as rare as guys like Bosh, Wade, and James. -And if they can't get veterans, they'll get some youngsters. I'd bet they'll hustle if Bosh, Wade, and James control the team. -Bosh is more of an offensive threat than Boozer is and Boozer is incapable against longer players. -Everyone questioned Rondo and Perkins when the Celtics brought in Allen and Garnett. Guess what. They stepped up. That's what happens when a team is winning. Players hustle and players pick up their games. Think a young player is going to go through the motions with those guys in charge?
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[QUOTE="dodgerblue13"][ -About the Boozer thing, fair enough. -There are plenty of hustle guys that would be willing to head to Miami to scrounge up some loose balls. It's not as though hustle players are as rare as guys like Bosh, Wade, and James. -And if they can't get veterans, they'll get some youngsters. I'd bet they'll hustle if Bosh, Wade, and James control the team. -Bosh is more of an offensive threat than Boozer is and Boozer is incapable against longer players. -Everyone questioned Rondo and Perkins when the Celtics brought in Allen and Garnett. Guess what. They stepped up. That's what happens when a team is winning. Players hustle and players pick up their games. Think a young player is going to go through the motions with those guys in charge?

There is a difference b/w a hustle guy and an effective hustle guy like Noah But my point was that the Heat don't have people to give the big 3 a break. I would take the Heat in a 1 game scenario any day...I just don't feel that way for 100 games The Celtics were lucky and found some great unknown players in Rondo and Perkins If the Heat are that lucky (have that great of scouts), then they will be just fine. -but the Heat's recent track record of bringing in players does not give me confidence (Beasley, Jermain O'Neal) But I guess we will see how it works out. The Dream Team has not won every Olympics...sometimes a 'team' is better than a group of stars
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#30 Fuhgeddabouditt
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[QUOTE="F1_2004"]Lebron hasn't been able to win ****, he's not gonna start now :lol:MUSH_IS_PWNs
Dwayne Wade has won a title with a worse team so why wouldn't they win? Also the cavs have had the best record in the NBA 2 years in a row with a team that was almost just Lebron and now they have 2 more of the best players in the NBA. How could they not win?

well for one, Wade and Bosh arent on the CAVS. Lebron is now a HEAT and on a team that really isnt one right now as well :? The CAVS had the best record 2 yrs in a row, so that leaves me wondering, what were they missing?
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[QUOTE="Parandrus"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] Lebron actually had a much better setup with the Bullsrawsavon
It would have made so much more sense for him to go there.

They (Bulls) have a really good team of solid B players + 2 A- players in Boozer and Rose. I don't really see how Wade and Lebron will be as good together as they were apart...they do most of the same things.

I agree with this 100%. And there are a few teams that will give the Heat a hard time. The Bulls being one of them.
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I have my doubts as a Heat fan. Signing Mike Miller and re-signing Haslem are 2 solid pieces, but we still need a big guy to cover the middle. I can see them struggling this year until they round out the roster next year. Kinda sucks though that the Heat went from a ho-hum franchise (albeit one with Wade) to the most hated team in the league overnight.

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I have my doubts as a Heat fan. Signing Mike Miller and re-signing Haslem are 2 solid pieces, but we still need a big guy to cover the middle. I can see them struggling this year until they round out the roster next year. Kinda sucks though that the Heat went from a ho-hum franchise (albeit one with Wade) to the most hated team in the league overnight.

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Well you can't go from a ho-hum team to a team with no holes in one off-season. Every team has holes.
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#34 yokofox33
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[QUOTE="yokofox33"]

I have my doubts as a Heat fan. Signing Mike Miller and re-signing Haslem are 2 solid pieces, but we still need a big guy to cover the middle. I can see them struggling this year until they round out the roster next year. Kinda sucks though that the Heat went from a ho-hum franchise (albeit one with Wade) to the most hated team in the league overnight.

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Well you can't go from a ho-hum team to a team with no holes in one off-season. Every team has holes.

I meant ho-hum as in no one really cared about them. Not even people in Miami cared about the Heat. Now they are hated everywhere but Miami.

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#35 dodgerblue13
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[QUOTE="dodgerblue13"][QUOTE="yokofox33"]

I have my doubts as a Heat fan. Signing Mike Miller and re-signing Haslem are 2 solid pieces, but we still need a big guy to cover the middle. I can see them struggling this year until they round out the roster next year. Kinda sucks though that the Heat went from a ho-hum franchise (albeit one with Wade) to the most hated team in the league overnight.

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Well you can't go from a ho-hum team to a team with no holes in one off-season. Every team has holes.

I meant ho-hum as in no one really cared about them. Not even people in Miami cared about the Heat. Now they are hated everywhere but Miami.

I assumed you meant both as a franchise and roster-wise. Either way, I think people hate those players more than the Heat as a franchise. There is a difference even if it doesn't really make sense haha.
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#36 Vtec815
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Kobe will stop them

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your damn right thats if they can even make it to the finals to see them. people are forgetting how good the celtics and orlando still are the east isnt just up for grabs because scotty pippen went to miami. jordan never went to make a super team when they were getting there asses handed to them by the pistons HE STUCK WITH HIS TEAM AND BEAT THE BEST. the team will be good in 1-2 years but people cant compare a team with 4 players as good as 90s bulls team. and fish should sign with lakers if he wants win 1 more i mean he has to..... he was part of the kobe jackson 5 titles and fish is wise enough to know miami wont get there in 1 season
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#37 wilford88
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The three "kings" future rings for me is meaningless. James could have gone to CHI or NY and start a rivalry with Wade and Bosh.

I'm not a Laker fan but I hope they beat the heat.:twisted:

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#38 Vtec815
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The three "kings" future rings for me is meaningless. James could have gone to CHI or NY and start a rivalry with Wade and Bosh.

I'm not a Laker fan but I hope they beat the heat.:twisted:

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imagine--- lebron and stoudemire vs wade and bosh a comeback of the heat knicks rivalry as a knicks fan /sigh
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#39 alwaysdrunk13
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Heat will never be the Bulls of the 90's. Bulls had Jordan (legend), Pippen (do it all superstar content with second fiddle status) and then a plethora of defensively strong role players with standout single abilities (Rodman, Harper, Kerr et al). Heat now have three superstars trying to get wedged into the same spot. Admittedly a killer trio, but as the Olajuwon/Drexler/Barkley trio in the mid 90's proved, the team of champions doesn't beat the champion team. Just wait til Lebron has a season of taking a third of the shots he took in Cleveland.
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Clog the middle and make Lebron and Wade shoot.

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Also the cavs have had the best record in the NBA 2 years in a row with a team that was almost just Lebron MUSH_IS_PWNs
Antwan Jamison=2X All Star, Sixth Man of the Year Mo Williams=1X All-star Shaq=15X All-Star (including 2009) Zydrunas Ilgauskas=2X All-Star Anderson Varejao=2nd Team All NBA Defensive
Sorry, but you know nothing about basketball if you think that team was "almost just LeBron". Further, the Heat currently only have five players on their official roster. They have three unsigned draft picks and seven unsigned free agents. And since they have THREE huge contracts, they aren't going to be able to sign many veteran role players. You can put a bunch of superstars together, but it doesn't guarantee a championship. The Celtics had Allen, Pierce, and Garnett but it was guys like James Posey and Rajon Rondo that put them over the top. How many championships did the Lakers win when they brought in Gary Payton (Hall of Famer) and Karl Malone (Hall of Famer) to play with Shaq (Hall of Famer) and Kobe Bryant (again, Hall of Famer)? Oh, right. None. How many titles did the Nets win with Jason Kidd, Richard Jefferson, and Vince Carter? Oh, yeah. None. Or what about the Phoenix Suns? They had Shaq, Steve Nash, Grant Hill, Amare Stoudemire, and Jason Richardson. That's three guaranteed Hall of Famers and two more multiple-time All-Stars. No titles.
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Le-Mercenary will never be considered the greatest of all time now no matter how many titles he gets. He and Shaq are the only "great" players who left their team to win somewhere else.

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Le-Mercenary will never be considered the greatest of all time now no matter how many titles he gets. He and Shaq are the only "great" players who left their team to win somewhere else.

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At least shaq went to LA when they had no one. LeBron is just trying to jump on the D Wade express.