Michael Moore's new movie Sicko

I can't wait for this to come out, healthcare in america is a total joke.  So ridiculous that the government is down his throat for brining 9/11 rescue workers to cuba for treatment.

 Who cares if it is cuba, they were willing to give the people the care they needed when the US wouldn't

Haha, I love this guy, warp and edit what people say and different stories to fit his own vision.  But this is America and he's allowed to do it.

I guess we should have socialized healthcare.  You know, like England?  That way it takes me 1 year to get a flu shot and hospitals can take 3 months to care for a person.  I read (I forget where so take this with a grain of salt if you'd like) that infections are really really really really really really REALLY high in English hospitals.

 Enjoi!

He will give us footage that will show nothing but the truth, right after he edits it.

He will give us footage that will show nothing but the truth, right after he edits it.

 

The_Ish

Haha, I'm glad I am not the only person who sees this.  Nice post. 

Haha, I love this guy, warp and edit what people say and different stories to fit his own vision.  But this is America and he's allowed to do it.

I guess we should have socialized healthcare.  You know, like England?  That way it takes me 1 year to get a flu shot and hospitals can take 3 months to care for a person.  I read (I forget where so take this with a grain of salt if you'd like) that infections are really really really really really really REALLY high in English hospitals.

 Enjoi!

cametall

I have a lot of British friends and they have no problem with the healthcare at all.  I think that is somewhat of a myth that socialized healthcare means poor healthcare.  The French, British and Canadians all seem to have it figured out.  All with free universal healthcare and the citizens of those countries all have a longer life expectancy than U.S. citizens

Who cares if it's Cuba?  The Cuban people are starving.  The Cuban government doesn't help its people.  At least the American government tries. 

[QUOTE="The_Ish"]

He will give us footage that will show nothing but the truth, right after he edits it.

 

cametall

Haha, I'm glad I am not the only person who sees this. Nice post.

Yeah, you're right. He only really made one movie that enlightened me on anything, and that was Roger and Me(which was about rampant and hurtful corporate downsizing). Otherwise, pretty much all of his recent works are kind of well...bloated. Like F911. The literally put out a conspiracy theory. I was disgusted, he took BSing to an art form in that movie. Its true the Bush administration sucks, but at least criticize it with some credibility.

As for Universal Health-care, I am not entirely against the idea. Canada for example, has excellent UH. And the US has a very "spineless" health-care system, they will do almost anything the Pharmaceutical companies tell them. If Moore is going to do a movie on something corrupt, he should (but without the BSing) do it on the Pharmaceutical Companies, those guys are incredibly cunning and often dishonest in how they deal their products, and it affect our health-care system and the medical community in a major way.

I can't wait for this to come out, healthcare in america is a total joke.  So ridiculous that the government is down his throat for brining 9/11 rescue workers to cuba for treatment.

 Who cares if it is cuba, they were willing to give the people the care they needed when the US wouldn't

ACSlater

Michael Moore is just one of the many useful idiots who idolize sadistic torturers Fidel Castro and Che Guevara.

Why didn't Moore bring them to Canada or the U.K.?

I hope there are little cartoons in it like Bowling for Columbine.:Pmetallica_fan42

I loved the white people cartoon:lol:

[QUOTE="The_Ish"]

He will give us footage that will show nothing but the truth, right after he edits it.

 

cametall

Haha, I'm glad I am not the only person who sees this. Nice post.

dont worry theres a lot of people that dont agree with michael moore 

Haha, I love this guy, warp and edit what people say and different stories to fit his own vision. But this is America and he's allowed to do it.

I guess we should have socialized healthcare. You know, like England? That way it takes me 1 year to get a flu shot and hospitals can take 3 months to care for a person. I read (I forget where so take this with a grain of salt if you'd like) that infections are really really really really really really REALLY high in English hospitals.

Enjoi!

cametall

[QUOTE="cametall"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

He will give us footage that will show nothing but the truth, right after he edits it.

 

alcarazo9

Haha, I'm glad I am not the only person who sees this. Nice post.

dont worry theres a lot of people that dont agree with michael moore

Haha, I love this guy, warp and edit what people say and different stories to fit his own vision.  But this is America and he's allowed to do it.

I guess we should have socialized healthcare.  You know, like England?  That way it takes me 1 year to get a flu shot and hospitals can take 3 months to care for a person.  I read (I forget where so take this with a grain of salt if you'd like) that infections are really really really really really really REALLY high in English hospitals.

 Enjoi!

cametall

this guy is absolutely right.. socialism (and yes, Moore is a socialist) is the CAUSE for the problems in healthcare systems

oh, and socialism IS one tiny step away from communism... it never has worked, and it never will.

is that the direction you want to see america going??

this guy is absolutely right.. socialism (and yes, Moore is a socialist) is the CAUSE for the problems in healthcare systems

oh, and socialism IS one tiny step away from communism... it never has worked, and it never will.

is that the direction you want to see america going??

sidler88

So you're saying Canada, for example, is communist? 

Hmm, I guess that communism is a good thing then. Canadians are, on average, smarter, live longer, and make more money than Americans.  

I wonder if all of the people parroting the idea that socialized healthcare sucks realize the degree to which farming is subsidized in the United States so that everyone can have affordable food.

Why do you think we are the fattest country on Earth?  :D   (Yeah, faulty reasoning, so sue me.)

Of course, part of the reason those other countries can afford socialized healthcare is that they don't constantly piss away their entire national budget on crazy high-tech weapons made by companies with ties to politicians...

Who cares if it's Cuba? The Cuban people are starving. The Cuban government doesn't help its people. At least the American government tries.

jim_shorts

I wonder if all of the people parroting the idea that socialized healthcare sucks realize the degree to which farming is subsidized in the United States so that everyone can have affordable food.

Why do you think we are the fattest country on Earth? :D (Yeah, faulty reasoning, so sue me.)

Of course, part of the reason those other countries can afford socialized healthcare is that they don't constantly piss away their entire national budget on crazy high-tech weapons made by companies with ties to politicians...

SpaceMoose

Because farmers are amazingly stupid and refuse to change professions. They're stuck in a pefercetly competitive market and cannot and will not EVER turn over a profit in the long run. The only way for them to make money is stop farming. Maybe with slightly less farmers they won't have to be subsidized.  (EDIT)  If farmers weren't subsidized I'd probably be paying 2 cents for a can of corn or 2 bucks for milk instead of almost 4.

EDIT: Here is a link to an article I found about the healthcare system. Sure it is 2 years old but it still holds true today.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110006785

well the health care is one thing...

but when he went to windsor ontario and filmed condos to show canadian ghettos it was pretty funny, he did real good research to look up the lowest crime rate in canada and going there.

Or like in "Roger And Me" when he got an interveiw with the owner of the flint michigan plant and he decided not to put it in his film.

Because farmers are amazingly stupid and refuse to change professions. They're stuck in a pefercetly competitive market and cannot and will not EVER turn over a profit in the long run. The only way for them to make money is stop farming. Maybe with slightly less farmers they won't have to be subsidized.

cametall

Well, that would likely make food more expensive to the consumer though.  And my whole point was that having subsidized farming keeps food relatively cheap...

EDIT: Here is a link to an article I found about the healthcare system. Sure it is 2 years old but it still holds true today.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110006785

cametall

I typed in the author's name into Google before I read the article. The first link that came up informed me that "David Asman is the host of 'Forbes on FOX.' "

After that, I decided that my time is best spent on something else.

[QUOTE="cametall"]

EDIT: Here is a link to an article I found about the healthcare system. Sure it is 2 years old but it still holds true today.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110006785

SpaceMoose

I typed in the author's name into Google before I read the article. The first link that came up informed me that "David Asman is the host of 'Forbes on FOX.' "

After that I decided that my time is best spent on something else.

Yes because we all know Micheal Moore is legit.

And it is a story on what happened to him in England not some techincal analysis on their healthcare.

Yes because we all know Micheal Moore is legit.

cametall

Only Michael Moore film I've seen is Roger and Me.

Anyway, he's still more legit than Fox News. :P

(Well, more honest about what his position is anyway.) 

[QUOTE="cametall"]

Yes because we all know Micheal Moore is legit.

SpaceMoose

Only Michael Moore film I've seen is Roger and Me.

Anyway, he's still more legit than Fox News. :P

(Well, more honest about what his position is anyway.)

I guess because the news station is run by someone with an opposing political belief it is therefore 'a waste of time.' Of course we all know how awesome CNN or NBC is and how "fair" Chris Matthews and Ted Turner are.

EDIT:  GlitchSpot only likes to selectively allow me to add quotation marks... :(

[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"][QUOTE="cametall"]

Yes because we all know Micheal Moore is legit.

cametall

Only Michael Moore film I've seen is Roger and Me.

Anyway, he's still more legit than Fox News. :P

(Well, more honest about what his position is anyway.)

I guess because the news station is run by someone with an opposing political belief it is therefore 'a waste of time.' Of course we all know how awesome CNN or NBC is and how "fair" Chris Matthews and Ted Turner are.

EDIT:  GlitchSpot only likes to selectively allow me to add quotation marks... :(

Michael Moore edits his 'documentaries' so heavily to make people/things look bad that its rediculous. More than half of what it shown on his movies is utter BS.

Yes because we all know Micheal Moore is legit.

And it is a story on what happened to him in England not some techincal analysis on their healthcare.

cametall

Okay then...

I guess because the news station is run by someone with an opposing political belief it is therefore "a waste of time." Of course we all know how awesome CNN or NBC is and how "fair" Chris Matthews and Ted Turner are.

cametall

i cant stand him, his "documentaries" are a joke

Haha, I love this guy, warp and edit what people say and different stories to fit his own vision.  But this is America and he's allowed to do it.

I guess we should have socialized healthcare.  You know, like England?  That way it takes me 1 year to get a flu shot and hospitals can take 3 months to care for a person.  I read (I forget where so take this with a grain of salt if you'd like) that infections are really really really really really really REALLY high in English hospitals.

 Enjoi!

cametall

Are there any Cuban-Americans in here that are offended by this far-left fat head Michael Moore?

http://marcmasferrer.typepad.com/uncommon_sense/cuba_idiot_watch/index.html

[QUOTE="cametall"]

Haha, I love this guy, warp and edit what people say and different stories to fit his own vision. But this is America and he's allowed to do it.

I guess we should have socialized healthcare. You know, like England? That way it takes me 1 year to get a flu shot and hospitals can take 3 months to care for a person. I read (I forget where so take this with a grain of salt if you'd like) that infections are really really really really really really REALLY high in English hospitals.

Enjoi!

Thanatos1337

From BBC News (2002) - The National Audit Office estimated infections acquired by patients while they were in hospital could be killing up to 5000 people a year in England.

From the Health Protection Agency  - Reports of blood stream infections caused by MRSA increased to 7647 in 2003/04

MRSA is a big problem in British hospitals 

  I just wish I thought of whoring the truth. It's as easy as bottled water.  Here's the title of my booK and the summery.

  THINGS PEOPLE ALREADY KNOW, BUT ONCE YOU READ IT IN A BOOK OR SEE IT IN A MOVIE YOUR NOT LIKE "PFFF, GEE REALLY CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!" INSTEAD YOUR LIKE "OMG IT'S TEH KOOLEST EVER." IT'S LIKE YOU ALREADY KNEW THAT BUT ONCE YOU READ IT IN A BOOK OR SEE IT ON FILM YOU'RE LIKE EGADS, THIS IS AWSOME!!

From BBC News (2002) - The National Audit Office estimated infections acquired by patients while they were in hospital could be killing up to 5000 people a year in England.

From the Health Protection Agency - Reports of blood stream infections caused by MRSA increased to 7647 in 2003/04

MRSA is a big problem in British hospitals

vitriolboy

I doubt its perfect and rosy in American hopsitals :|

I would far rather have the NHS in England than the american way

Everybody already know that the American health care system sucks. He doesn't need to make a movie about it.

I can't wait for this to come out, healthcare in america is a total joke. 

ACSlater

So is Michael Moore...

What would there be to lie about with healthcare?

As for people saying he edits things, I believe he does, but not as much as people say he does. 

[QUOTE="Thanatos1337"][QUOTE="cametall"]

Haha, I love this guy, warp and edit what people say and different stories to fit his own vision. But this is America and he's allowed to do it.

I guess we should have socialized healthcare. You know, like England? That way it takes me 1 year to get a flu shot and hospitals can take 3 months to care for a person. I read (I forget where so take this with a grain of salt if you'd like) that infections are really really really really really really REALLY high in English hospitals.

Enjoi!

vitriolboy

From BBC News (2002) - The National Audit Office estimated infections acquired by patients while they were in hospital could be killing up to 5000 people a year in England.

From the Health Protection Agency  - Reports of blood stream infections caused by MRSA increased to 7647 in 2003/04

MRSA is a big problem in British hospitals