Mit Romney - Rick Samtorum. Mormonism.... Really?

First things out the way. I am English and Iam looking at this as an outsider.

Rick Santorum - How can people who openly think that god is real in this day in age and believe right wing bibiical nonsense against homosexuals, contraception, Abortion be even considered to lead one of the most powerful nations on Earth?

Mit Romney - Mormons -Come on! how can anyone believe this version of religion. No right minded person can take this seriously sureley!

and... That woman who got knocked out in the early stages (forget her name) her goodbye speechwas all greatest nation under god. The one true book. God this and God that. She sounded like one of the Islamic Fundelmentalistnutjobs!

Santorum is a little scary because he's fundamentalist. Romeny is a mormon, but I dont think he is diehard religous.

It's just as plausible as Catholicism or Presbyterianism or Judaism or Islam etc etc

Romney is faithful to the religion of opportunism. He doesn't believe in anything and believes in everything at the same time. When you have uneducated electorate you can lure them with dumb things like that. That happens in every country. Every time a politician focuses on trivial issues and ignores the truly important ones you can be certain they're not being honest with what they believe they just want votes.kuraimen

Strangely this makes me feel better about both candidates if true as we all know politicians will say whatever we want to hear. Phew

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Romney is faithful to the religion of opportunism. He doesn't believe in anything and believes in everything at the same time. When you have uneducated electorate you can lure them with dumb things like that. That happens in every country. Every time a politician focuses on trivial issues and ignores the truly important ones you can be certain they're not being honest with what they believe they just want votes.PresidentLogan

Strangely this makes me feel better about both candidates if true as we all know politicians will say whatever we want to hear. Phew

It's just as plausible as Catholicism or Presbyterianism or Judaism or Islam etc etc

Ilovegames1992

Yeah I agree all made up nonsense stories that give Lord of the Rings and Grimm Fairy Tales a run for their money!

[QUOTE="PresidentLogan"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Romney is faithful to the religion of opportunism. He doesn't believe in anything and believes in everything at the same time. When you have uneducated electorate you can lure them with dumb things like that. That happens in every country. Every time a politician focuses on trivial issues and ignores the truly important ones you can be certain they're not being honest with what they believe they just want votes.kuraimen

Strangely this makes me feel better about both candidates if true as we all know politicians will say whatever we want to hear. Phew

This is the teuest froms of democracy though - the rich and their friends getting positions of power and influence to make them and their friends more powerful and richer.

Honest question. Has there ever been an American President in the late 19th and 20th Century that has not been a multi millionaire by today's standards?

So, this thread is really more about your own disdain for all things religious, opposed to US Politics, right?

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="PresidentLogan"]

Strangely this makes me feel better about both candidates if true as we all know politicians will say whatever we want to hear. Phew

PresidentLogan

This is the teuest froms of democracy though - the rich and their friends getting positions of power and influence to make them and their friends more powerful and richer.

Honest question. Has there ever been an American President in the late 19th and 20th Century that has not been a multi millionaire by today's standards?

So, this thread is really more about your own disdain for all things religious, opposed to US Politics, right?

Planet_Pluto

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

It's just as plausible as Catholicism or Presbyterianism or Judaism or Islam etc etc

PresidentLogan

Yeah I agree all made up nonsense stories that give Lord of the Rings and Grimm Fairy Tales a run for their money!

It's not really a shocking revelation. Religion and politics in the United States always has had an intertwined relationship.

First things out the way. I am English and Iam looking at this as an outsider.

Rick Santorum - How can people who openly think that god is real in this day in age ... lead one of the most powerful nations on Earth?

PresidentLogan

I don't even know where to begin with this one.

Ask David Cameron if he believes in god; or better yet- find me a single nation led "openly" by an atheist.

[QUOTE="PresidentLogan"]

First things out the way. I am English and Iam looking at this as an outsider.

Rick Santorum - How can people who openly think that god is real in this day in age ... lead one of the most powerful nations on Earth?

pie-junior

I don't even know where to begin with this one.

Ask David Cameron if he believes in god; or better yet- find me a single nation led "openly" by an atheist.

IIRC Nick Clegg, the deputy Prime Minister, said he doesn't believe in god. Ill try and find a link.

[QUOTE="PresidentLogan"]

First things out the way. I am English and Iam looking at this as an outsider.

Rick Santorum - How can people who openly think that god is real in this day in age ... lead one of the most powerful nations on Earth?

pie-junior

I don't even know where to begin with this one.

Ask David Cameron if he believes in god; or better yet- find me a single nation led "openly" by an atheist.

Chile.

[QUOTE="pie-junior"]

[QUOTE="PresidentLogan"]

First things out the way. I am English and Iam looking at this as an outsider.

Rick Santorum - How can people who openly think that god is real in this day in age ... lead one of the most powerful nations on Earth?

Ilovegames1992

I don't even know where to begin with this one.

Ask David Cameron if he believes in god; or better yet- find me a single nation led "openly" by an atheist.

Chile.

Actually that was a few years ago. But if Labour win the next election Britain will be run by an atheist i think.

[QUOTE="pie-junior"]

[QUOTE="PresidentLogan"]

First things out the way. I am English and Iam looking at this as an outsider.

Rick Santorum - How can people who openly think that god is real in this day in age ... lead one of the most powerful nations on Earth?

Ilovegames1992

I don't even know where to begin with this one.

Ask David Cameron if he believes in god; or better yet- find me a single nation led "openly" by an atheist.

Chile.

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="pie-junior"]

I don't even know where to begin with this one.

Ask David Cameron if he believes in god; or better yet- find me a single nation led "openly" by an atheist.

Planet_Pluto

Chile.

Just saying, it has happened.

Yes, lets talk about politicians' religious beliefs. That's the pressing issue for America isn't it? It's not like the country is economically f ucked and the current president seemingly incapable of doing anything about it.

Yes, lets talk about politicians' religious beliefs. That's the pressing issue for America isn't it? It's not like the country is economically f ucked and the current president seemingly incapable of doing anything about it.Storm_Marine

We don't want the US to be fuсked on a social level either.

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]Yes, lets talk about politicians' religious beliefs. That's the pressing issue for America isn't it? It's not like the country is economically f ucked and the current president seemingly incapable of doing anything about it.Just-Breathe

We don't want the US to be fuсked on a social level either.

But I suppose it's obvious why the American left is trying to make this race about anything besides actual economic and foreign policy matters.

But I suppose it's obvious why the American left is trying to make this race about anything besides actual economic and foreign policy matters.

Storm_Marine

But I suppose it's obvious why the American left is trying to make this race about anything besides actual economic and foreign policy matters.

Storm_Marine

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

But I suppose it's obvious why the American left is trying to make this race about anything besides actual economic and foreign policy matters.

Engrish_Major

Really?

Someone seems more anti religion than interested in American politics methinks.LJS9502_basic

As long as they don't let their religious beliefs influence they're political platforms, I don't see the problem (though, for neo-con Republicans in the US, I find it hard to believe that wouldn't happen).foxhound_fox

Yes, lets talk about politicians' religious beliefs. That's the pressing issue for America isn't it? It's not like the country is economically f ucked and the current president seemingly incapable of doing anything about it.

Storm_Marine

Whether we like to discuss it or not it's a topic that always arises. Both parties bring up the beliefs, or lack of beliefs of candidates of the opposing party in order to cast them in a negative manner.

Well, we here in America (excluding OT, of course) generally try to accept people of all religious faiths. Commander-Gree

[QUOTE="Commander-Gree"]Well, we here in America (excluding OT, of course) generally try to accept people of all religious faiths. blue_hazy_basic

Someone seems more anti religion than interested in American politics methinks.LJS9502_basic

Well, we here in America (excluding OT, of course) generally try to accept people of all religious faiths. Commander-Gree

While freedom of religion is an important tenet for our country, our voting habits may not necessarily reflect it. Although its one example, Keith Ellison was the first Muslim elected to Congress and that occurred in 2007...

(Of course I have not data on the percentage of candidates who are Muslim and have unsuccessfully run in the past).

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Commander-Gree"]Well, we here in America (excluding OT, of course) generally try to accept people of all religious faiths. DaBrainz

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] I seem to remember a bit of a sh*tstorm last election and since that Obama might be, heaven forbid, a muslim?blue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] I seem to remember a bit of a sh*tstorm last election and since that Obama might be, heaven forbid, a muslim?blue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="DaBrainz"] And why don't liberials pick apart Obama for being, heaven forbid, Christian? Santorum just speaks of it more because he is asked more. DaBrainz

EDIT and that was a widely held belief by members of the tea party and even mainstream Republican voters.

Just pointing out that not accepting Santorum based on his religion is also bigotry.DaBrainz

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]Just pointing out that not accepting Santorum based on his religion is also bigotry.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] thats a flat out untruth. Santorum uses as a basis for his policies and speaks on religion all the time in his own speeches, without press questions. In regards to the question, before you went OT, why was Obama being a Muslim (which he wasn't) and issue for Republicans, but Santorum and Romneys religions are not if the US "generally try to accept people of all religious faiths"blue_hazy_basic