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#1 GrabTheYayo
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Yesterday was the UFC vs Boxing fight. James tony (a world class boxer with a record of 72 wins and 6 losses and current IBA heavyweight champ) challenged the UFC and said he will knock everyone out. The UFC put Tony against the 47 year old Hall of Famer...Captain America, Randy "The Natural" Couture to once and for all prove that MMA fighters, even the weakest and oldest can destroy boxers in a real fight.



Randy Couture man handled James Tony like taking candy form a baby. took james tony down in seconds not letting tony to even get to throw a punch, straight into the mount and choked him out in 3:18 in the very first round. it looked like a kid trying to wrestle with his dad lmao. made James tony eat his words. this was tony's last fight in the ufc and will go back to boxing.





i hope this fight proved how superior MMA is compared to other disciplines and that you should all put your kids into MMA cl@sses for some real self defense.

What are your thoughts on this situation and how did you think the fight would have ended?

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#2 MystikFollower
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Can't say I'm surprised a mixed martial artist who practices and knows multiple fighting styles beat a boxer :P. I wish I could have seen that fight though. Erm, I mean, massacre.

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#3 Link334
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Not surprised tbh. Look at James compared to Randy. It's MMA . Mixed Martial Arts. Boxing is boxing. It's a standup game and the second Randy took him down it was over. Another thing is look at the last picture. James looks out of shape where as Randy looks ripped.

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#4 mrmusicman247
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It was embarrassing. Although most people think Toney came into this fight completely unprepared. He did have nine months of training. But he still wasn't going to win. :P
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#5 GrabTheYayo
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Not surprised tbh. Look at James compared to Randy. It's MMA . Mixed Martial Arts. Boxing is boxing. It's a standup game and the second Randy took him down it was over. Another thing is look at the last picture. James looks out of shape where as Randy looks ripped.

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thats how james always looks. he's a small heavyweight.

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#6 Lab392
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Uh... Why wouldn't an MMA fighter beat a boxer in an MMA match?

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#7 Link334
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[QUOTE="Link334"]

Not surprised tbh. Look at James compared to Randy. It's MMA . Mixed Martial Arts. Boxing is boxing. It's a standup game and the second Randy took him down it was over. Another thing is look at the last picture. James looks out of shape where as Randy looks ripped.

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thats how james always looks. he's a small heavyweight.

I mean he just looks out of shape. :| I don't care what size he is he looks out of shape. He looks a little smaller than Roy Nelson :lol:
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#8 entropyecho
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Expected, though it doesn't change my feelings about MMA (wrote a thread about it yesterday).

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#9 nottu
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No boxer will beat an MMA fighter in an MMA fight. Just like boxers would beat MMA fighters in a Boxing match.

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#10 jwsoul
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Nice lol wish i could watch it.

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#11 ToppledPillars
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Greetings boxing is a mma

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#12 aaaaarrrrggggg
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Well, self-defense is a different situation in this case. Trying to grapple your way out of a confrontation with multiple opponents is suicide. For one-on-one matches, MMA is effective for an ultimate, no-rules win, but for defending yourself, staying on your feet is necessary.
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#13 GrabTheYayo
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No boxer will beat an MMA fighter in an MMA fight. Just like boxers would beat MMA fighters in a Boxing match.

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MMA fight = closest thing to a real fight. and thats what matters. who can win a real fight. boxers will lose 99/100 times

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#14 GrabTheYayo
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Well, self-defense is a different situation in this case. Trying to grapple your way out of a confrontation with multiple opponents is suicide. For one-on-one matches, MMA is effective for an ultimate, no-rules win, but for defending yourself, staying on your feet is necessary. aaaaarrrrggggg
which is why you also know boxing, muay thai, or even karate as a mixed martial artist.

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#15 LIONHEART-_-
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Give Toney a break he's not that good in grappling and mix martial arts stuffs.

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#16 aaaaarrrrggggg
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[QUOTE="aaaaarrrrggggg"]Well, self-defense is a different situation in this case. Trying to grapple your way out of a confrontation with multiple opponents is suicide. For one-on-one matches, MMA is effective for an ultimate, no-rules win, but for defending yourself, staying on your feet is necessary. GrabTheYayo

which is why you also know boxing, muay thai, or even karate as a mixed martial artist.

Which is why Iwould rather learn one of those disciplines instead of one which has an emphasis on grappling.

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#17 GrabTheYayo
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[QUOTE="GrabTheYayo"]

[QUOTE="aaaaarrrrggggg"]Well, self-defense is a different situation in this case. Trying to grapple your way out of a confrontation with multiple opponents is suicide. For one-on-one matches, MMA is effective for an ultimate, no-rules win, but for defending yourself, staying on your feet is necessary. aaaaarrrrggggg

which is why you also know boxing, muay thai, or even karate as a mixed martial artist.

Which is why Iwould rather learn one of those disciplines instead of one which has an emphasis on grappling.

what if its a one on one fight and that person takes you down with the intentions of killing you? with no BJJ skills you will not know how to defend form it. and with no wrestling skills you will be taken down. so no i would rather be a all rounded fighter.

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#18 wstfld
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Sort of expected that. But how about Frank Edgar? Holy crap he looked good. He didn't even look tired.
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#19 The_Gaming_Baby
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I think the real subject of last nights ppv was the main event. I love Edgar for proving it wasn't a fluke.

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#20 GrabTheYayo
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Sort of expected that. But how about Frank Edgar? Holy crap he looked good. He didn't even look tired. wstfld
ya he looked good. but jose aldo would beat him imo

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#21 zmbi_gmr
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I was not surprised.

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#22 aaaaarrrrggggg
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what if its a one on one fight and that person takes you down with the intentions of killing you? with no BJJ skills you will not know how to defend form it. and with no wrestling skills you will be taken down. so no i would rather be a all rounded fighter.

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Most styles of martial arts eploy a means of self-defense from the ground; they only emphasize getting the person off of you instead of attempting joint locks, which are incredibly difficult to do against someone who is significantly larger than yourself. This is not a problem with UFC due to the weight-group listing of fighters. Believe me, I'm not bashing MMA for mixing styles, only the impracticality of trying to rush into a street fight and coming to victory through grappling.

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#23 nintendoman562
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Why doesn't Randy Couture challenge him to a boxing match? Obviously the boxer lost, he isn't trained in kicking, grappling, etc.

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#24 rawsavon
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Not surprised but this was not a fair representation either. An MMA legend versus an okay boxer Though I always think the MMA fighter will win, I just don't think it would be that easy
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#25 rcignoni
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I've gotta say I like the style of classic boxing more than MMA.
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#26 Ringx55
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Did anyone actually expect the boxer to win? Once the MMA fighter get's him on the ground it's not competition.
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#27 GrabTheYayo
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Why doesn't Randy Couture challenge him to a boxing match? Obviously the boxer lost, he isn't trained in kicking, grappling, etc.

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why should he? tony is the one who started a fight with the ufc and said that he can knock all of them out. the ufc gave him what he wanted and told randy to welcome him into MMA. and randy gave it to him. randy knows tony would beat him in a boxing match. but thats all it is...a boxing match, a limited fighting sport. not a real fight.

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#28 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="nintendoman562"]

Why doesn't Randy Couture challenge him to a boxing match? Obviously the boxer lost, he isn't trained in kicking, grappling, etc.

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why should he? tony is the one who started a fight with the ufc and said that he can knock all of them out. the ufc gave him what he wanted and told randy to welcome him into MMA. and randy gave it to him. randy knows tony would beat him in a boxing match. but thats all it is...a boxing match, a limited fighting sport. not a real fight.

Exactly. Dana likes and respects boxing (even though he wants some things changed) Tony talked **** and then got tapped the **** out...don't talk **** unless you can back it up
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[QUOTE="GrabTheYayo"]

[QUOTE="nintendoman562"]

Why doesn't Randy Couture challenge him to a boxing match? Obviously the boxer lost, he isn't trained in kicking, grappling, etc.

rawsavon

why should he? tony is the one who started a fight with the ufc and said that he can knock all of them out. the ufc gave him what he wanted and told randy to welcome him into MMA. and randy gave it to him. randy knows tony would beat him in a boxing match. but thats all it is...a boxing match, a limited fighting sport. not a real fight.

Exactly. Dana likes and respects boxing (even though he wants some things changed) Tony talked **** and then got tapped the **** out...don't talk **** unless you can back it up

Obviously he deserved to get beaten, but I think it would be more interesting if they had a boxing match because they are both trained in upper body strength.
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#30 fl4tlined
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this is almost as dumb as deadliest warriors ninja versus a spartan fight...
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#31 jesseandnikki
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MMA and street self defense are totally different... but I agree that MMA >>> Boxing
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#32 dramaybaz
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I don't know much about this, but isn't MMA just multi-martial arts. So isn't it just a mix of other martial arts? Saying other disciplines are weaker seems odd to me.
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[QUOTE="GrabTheYayo"]

[QUOTE="nintendoman562"]

Why doesn't Randy Couture challenge him to a boxing match? Obviously the boxer lost, he isn't trained in kicking, grappling, etc.

rawsavon

why should he? tony is the one who started a fight with the ufc and said that he can knock all of them out. the ufc gave him what he wanted and told randy to welcome him into MMA. and randy gave it to him. randy knows tony would beat him in a boxing match. but thats all it is...a boxing match, a limited fighting sport. not a real fight.

Exactly. Dana likes and respects boxing (even though he wants some things changed) Tony talked **** and then got tapped the **** out...don't talk **** unless you can back it up

lets be real here toney did not give a **** about this fight and he talked mad **** to hype the fight up. he cant get big fights in boxing anymore so he tried to come to ufc so he can get a quick paycheck.

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[QUOTE="GrabTheYayo"]what if its a one on one fight and that person takes you down with the intentions of killing you? with no BJJ skills you will not know how to defend form it. and with no wrestling skills you will be taken down. so no i would rather be a all rounded fighter.

aaaaarrrrggggg

Most styles of martial arts eploy a means of self-defense from the ground; they only emphasize getting the person off of you instead of attempting joint locks, which are incredibly difficult to do against someone who is significantly larger than yourself. This is not a problem with UFC due to the weight-group listing of fighters. Believe me, I'm not bashing MMA for mixing styles, only the impracticality of trying to rush into a street fight and coming to victory through grappling.



Well said.

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Personally the fight was rigged and dana knows it and it was cheap how you gonna put someone NEW to MMA against a former ex heavyweight champ and Hall of famer lol. But then again the way the boxer was talking he deserved to get thrashed but I wonder how things would be if he fought a lesser name in the UFC would things of changed? I think he would of did alot better but in this match experience clearly wins.

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#36 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="GrabTheYayo"]why should he? tony is the one who started a fight with the ufc and said that he can knock all of them out. the ufc gave him what he wanted and told randy to welcome him into MMA. and randy gave it to him. randy knows tony would beat him in a boxing match. but thats all it is...a boxing match, a limited fighting sport. not a real fight.

spliffstar12

Exactly. Dana likes and respects boxing (even though he wants some things changed) Tony talked **** and then got tapped the **** out...don't talk **** unless you can back it up

lets be real here toney did not give a **** about this fight and he talked mad **** to hype the fight up. he cant get big fights in boxing anymore so he tried to come to ufc so he can get a quick paycheck.

He did all that before Dana even allowed him to fight -Tony talked **** about MMA -then Dana sets up a fight ...after the fight is set up I agree with you (all parties talk **** to hype it up)
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#37 GrabTheYayo
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Personally the fight was rigged and dana knows it and it was cheap how you gonna put someone NEW to MMA against a former ex heavyweight champ and Hall of famer lol. But then again the way the boxer was talking he deserved to get thrashed but I wonder how things would be if he fought a lesser name in the UFC would things of changed? I think he would of did alot better but in this match experience clearly wins.

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fight was rigged? lol please. the ufc didnt put nobody no where. tony was talking trash to get dana to give him a fight and dana gave it to him. he wanted brock lesnar, or any other big name. the ufc told him that they wer going to put him against kimbo slice but tony didnt want that, he wanted good fighters. its his own fault.

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#38 jubino
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I didn't watch it but I'm guessing it looked about the same as when two men "destroy" each other in a prison cell late at night while the guards aren't paying attention.

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#39 GrabTheYayo
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I didn't watch it but I'm guessing it looked about the same as when two men "destroy" each other in a prison cell late at night while the guards aren't paying attention.

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in a manly way

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#40 jubino
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[QUOTE="jubino"]

I didn't watch it but I'm guessing it looked about the same as when two men "destroy" each other in a prison cell late at night while the guards aren't paying attention.

GrabTheYayo

in a manly way

Two sweaty, manly men rolling around on each other...
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#41 spliffstar12
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[QUOTE="spliffstar12"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"] Exactly. Dana likes and respects boxing (even though he wants some things changed) Tony talked **** and then got tapped the **** out...don't talk **** unless you can back it uprawsavon

lets be real here toney did not give a **** about this fight and he talked mad **** to hype the fight up. he cant get big fights in boxing anymore so he tried to come to ufc so he can get a quick paycheck.

He did all that before Dana even allowed him to fight -Tony talked **** about MMA -then Dana sets up a fight ...after the fight is set up I agree with you (all parties talk **** to hype it up)

Yeah he was talking **** before he got the fight so he was more likely to get a fight. If he follows Dana White around and keeps talking **** of course he was gonna end up getting a fight.

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Newsflash! MLB players outhit basketball players in home runs! That is all.
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[QUOTE="nottu"]

No boxer will beat an MMA fighter in an MMA fight. Just like boxers would beat MMA fighters in a Boxing match.

GrabTheYayo

MMA fight = closest thing to a real fight. and thats what matters. who can win a real fight. boxers will lose 99/100 times

James Toney with an aluminum baseball bat > Couture's wrestling.

Seriously, there are no rules and sanctions in a real fight. Of course a mixed martial artist will destroy a boxer in an MMA fight, just like a boxer would destroy an MMA fighter in a boxing match.

They're different sports and disciplines and this doesn't prove that MMA is superior to boxing. Both are great and I don't know why some people feel like they have to side with one or the other.

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#44 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="spliffstar12"]

lets be real here toney did not give a **** about this fight and he talked mad **** to hype the fight up. he cant get big fights in boxing anymore so he tried to come to ufc so he can get a quick paycheck.

spliffstar12

He did all that before Dana even allowed him to fight -Tony talked **** about MMA -then Dana sets up a fight ...after the fight is set up I agree with you (all parties talk **** to hype it up)

Yeah he was talking **** before he got the fight so he was more likely to get a fight. If he follows Dana White around and keeps talking **** of course he was gonna end up getting a fight.

Either way he got what was coming to him -either he just wanted a pay day or he really wanted to fight Also, Randy is actually 5 years his elder. But i agree the fighters are not on the same level (an MMA legend versus an okay boxer)
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#45 bigdcstile
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This actually didn't prove anything. 47 year old Randy Couture is still in great shape. "Lights Out" was fat, out of shape, and well beyond his prime. When was the last time he was in the ring?
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#46 rawsavon
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This actually didn't prove anything. 47 year old Randy Couture is still in great shape. "Lights Out" was fat, out of shape, and well beyond his prime. When was the last time he was in the ring?bigdcstile
That does not mean anything. Who was that fat tub o' lard in the Ultimate Fighter...he was actually pretty good Lots of Boxers have had that build and done well (George Foreman) I am not saying Tony is great...just that that is not an excuse
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#47 Quaker-w00ts
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Expected, though it doesn't change my feelings about MMA.

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#48 TM_Darkside
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[QUOTE="bigdcstile"]I am not saying Tony is great...just that that is not an excuserawsavon

His excuse is that he competed outside of his sport against a legend. He's delusional if he actually believed what he'd been saying leading up to the fight.

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#49 Ryan_Kitchen
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James Toney with an aluminum baseball bat > Couture's wrestling.

Seriously, there are no rules and sanctions in a real fight. Of course a mixed martial artist will destroy a boxer in an MMA fight, just like a boxer would destroy an MMA fighter in a boxing match.

They're different sports and disciplines and this doesn't prove that MMA is superior to boxing. Both are great and I don't know why some people feel like they have to side with one or the other. TM_Darkside

This, You couldn't be more right.

A Boxer against a MMA Fighter in a Boxing Match? The Boxer Wins. Boxer vs. MMA in a MMA Match? MMA Wins. They are both great in their own respects, neither is superior.

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#50 grenadexjumpr
Member since 2005 • 1120 Posts

Give Toney a break he's not that good in grappling and mix martial arts stuffs.

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Give him a break? He ran his mouth about what he could do, and he got owned. He challenged the UFC, not the other way around.