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#1 Celldweller465
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Ohh Canada
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#2 Dante2710
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ohh noez....
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#3 SpootyHead
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Wow. That is bad. I wonder how bad America is with our own history.
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#4 metallica_fan42
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Wow. That is bad. I wonder how bad America is with our own history.SpootyHead
I'm going to guess a lot worse.
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#5 south411
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[QUOTE="SpootyHead"]Wow. That is bad. I wonder how bad America is with our own history.metallica_fan42
I'm going to guess a lot worse.

that would be an interesting study...
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[QUOTE="metallica_fan42"][QUOTE="SpootyHead"]Wow. That is bad. I wonder how bad America is with our own history.south411
I'm going to guess a lot worse.

that would be an interesting study...

They have and it always comes back we wouldn't do well. It's hard to search for an article on it, because putting immigration in gets too many hits (I used other words, but still, not gonna bother)

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#7 deactivated-583e5f64e0a7e
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I hand out the US citizenship test to my students before every semester. 60% of them fail. Go figure.
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#8 ElZilcho90
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But only teh Americanz are st00pid!!!!:|
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#9 terdoo
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Wow. That is bad. I wonder how bad America is with our own history.SpootyHead

Your not funny.

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[QUOTE="SpootyHead"]Wow. That is bad. I wonder how bad America is with our own history.terdoo

Your not funny.

Don't think he was trying to be funny.

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This is stupid....Most canadians? 1,005 canadians did the test....
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#12 dnuggs40
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Well...lets see! Everyone go take this test:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13442226/

Report back when done and tell us how you did! I am going to take it as well, cya in a min :)

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#13 dnuggs40
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This is stupid....Most canadians? 1,005 canadians did the test....jointed

Do you understand the science behind polling?

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#14 Dante2710
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This is stupid....Most canadians? 1,005 canadians did the test....jointed
thats how most studies work, they only test a certain amount of people.....
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Well...lets see! Everyone go take this test:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13442226/

Report back when done and tell us how you did! I am going to take it as well, cya in a min :)

dnuggs40

85%, answered too fast on the Congress number (answered Senate number, completely stupid cuz I know that one), didn't know the voting amendment number, and did a duh on the constitution signing year by putting the Declaration year. Only one I truly didn't know, just went through too fast on two of them (as I always do on mult. choice). Still passing though :)

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[QUOTE="jointed"]This is stupid....Most canadians? 1,005 canadians did the test....dnuggs40

Do you understand the science behind polling?

yes, they pick people of different age, class and gender.

What's your point? It's still stupid, since it's only 1,000.

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#17 Large_Soda
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Well...lets see! Everyone go take this test:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13442226/

Report back when done and tell us how you did! I am going to take it as well, cya in a min :)

dnuggs40

I got 7/20. Glad I'm not American or else I'd be lynched.

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Well...lets see! Everyone go take this test:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13442226/

Report back when done and tell us how you did! I am going to take it as well, cya in a min :)

dnuggs40

I got 45%. Which isn't too bad considering I'm not American.

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[QUOTE="dnuggs40"]

[QUOTE="jointed"]This is stupid....Most canadians? 1,005 canadians did the test....jointed

Do you understand the science behind polling?

yes, they pick people of different age, class and gender.

What's your point? It's still stupid, since it's only 1,000.

As long as they did proper selections (random or wide & varied demographics), it's a valid sample.I mean, you wouldn't want to include children (they could actually falsel skew numbers up, as they get these things thrown at them in school), anyone of ill mental capacity, etc. It's not like it's a small percentage off, either, least then I could discuss it all being in a deviation.

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[QUOTE="dnuggs40"]

[QUOTE="jointed"]This is stupid....Most canadians? 1,005 canadians did the test....jointed

Do you understand the science behind polling?

yes, they pick people of different age, class and gender.

What's your point? It's still stupid, since it's only 1,000.

yeah exactly it's probably just a bad test.

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#21 Marioarm2
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I took the US citizenship test and I failed it miserably xD
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Well...lets see! Everyone go take this test:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13442226/

Report back when done and tell us how you did! I am going to take it as well, cya in a min :)

dnuggs40
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13442226/?score=95&resp=2,4,2,1,2,2,1,2,2,3,1,4,4,3,4,4,3,1,2,2,#anc_July4CivicsQuiz. 95%. Do I win a trophy?
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#23 CJL182
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I would expect Americans would do worse overall lol.
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#24 spierdalaj666
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[QUOTE="dnuggs40"]

Well...lets see! Everyone go take this test:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13442226/

Report back when done and tell us how you did! I am going to take it as well, cya in a min :)

Yagami-Iori

85%, answered too fast on the Congress number (answered Senate number, completely stupid cuz I know that one), didn't know the voting amendment number, and did a duh on the constitution signing year by putting the Declaration year. Only one I truly didn't know, just went through too fast on two of them (as I always do on mult. choice). Still passing though :)

You answered 100% of questions correctly. Here's your rating:

WOOHOO....guess that means i'm smart or something:D

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[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="dnuggs40"]

[QUOTE="jointed"]This is stupid....Most canadians? 1,005 canadians did the test....Yagami-Iori

Do you understand the science behind polling?

yes, they pick people of different age, class and gender.

What's your point? It's still stupid, since it's only 1,000.

As long as they did proper selections (random or wide & varied demographics), it's a valid sample.I mean, you wouldn't want to include children (they could actually falsel skew numbers up, as they get these things thrown at them in school), anyone of ill mental capacity, etc. It's not like it's a small percentage off, either, least then I could discuss it all being in a deviation.

My point is that polls like these usually have 5,000-10,000 participants. 1,000 istoo inaccurate.

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#26 dnuggs40
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Hehe...not bad. Though the one with the supreme court justices is kinda a jaded question, so I think i really got a 85%

You answered 80% of questions correctly.

***edited ugly jumbled results :P ***

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Well...lets see! Everyone go take this test:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13442226/

Report back when done and tell us how you did! I am going to take it as well, cya in a min :)

dnuggs40

95%... and I'm Canadian. The only one I missed was the 'which form is used to apply for naturalization' question. Irony FTW. :lol:

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[QUOTE="SpootyHead"]Wow. That is bad. I wonder how bad America is with our own history.metallica_fan42
I'm going to guess a lot worse.

Considering over half the people I left school with could barely read....

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[QUOTE="Yagami-Iori"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="dnuggs40"]

[QUOTE="jointed"]This is stupid....Most canadians? 1,005 canadians did the test....jointed

Do you understand the science behind polling?

yes, they pick people of different age, class and gender.

What's your point? It's still stupid, since it's only 1,000.

As long as they did proper selections (random or wide & varied demographics), it's a valid sample.I mean, you wouldn't want to include children (they could actually falsel skew numbers up, as they get these things thrown at them in school), anyone of ill mental capacity, etc. It's not like it's a small percentage off, either, least then I could discuss it all being in a deviation.

My point is thatpolls like these usually have 5,000-10,000 participants. 1,000 istoo inaccurate.

Based on what? Your personal opinion? Sorry dude, they are accurate to a pretty good degree, and the accuracy is backed up by actual science, not some guy on GS.

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[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="dnuggs40"]

[QUOTE="jointed"]This is stupid....Most canadians? 1,005 canadians did the test....mark4091

Do you understand the science behind polling?

yes, they pick people of different age, class and gender.

What's your point? It's still stupid, since it's only 1,000.

yeah exactly it's probably just a bad test.

If either of you bothered to take a basic statistics course you would know that 1,000 subjects is more than enough to get valid, accurate results. In fact, the magic number is 600, although you can begin inferring with reasonably accurate results starting at just 40.

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[QUOTE="Yagami-Iori"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="dnuggs40"]

[QUOTE="jointed"]This is stupid....Most canadians? 1,005 canadians did the test....jointed

Do you understand the science behind polling?

yes, they pick people of different age, class and gender.

What's your point? It's still stupid, since it's only 1,000.

As long as they did proper selections (random or wide & varied demographics), it's a valid sample.I mean, you wouldn't want to include children (they could actually falsel skew numbers up, as they get these things thrown at them in school), anyone of ill mental capacity, etc. It's not like it's a small percentage off, either, least then I could discuss it all being in a deviation.

My point is that polls like these usually have 5,000-10,000 participants. 1,000 istoo inaccurate.

Gallup and other major organizations use sample sizes
of between 1,000 and 1,500 because they provide a solid balance of accuracy against the
increased economic cost of larger and larger samples. If Gallup were to -- quite expensively --
use a sample of 4,000 randomly selected adults each time it did its poll, the increase in
accuracy over and beyond a well-done sample of 1,000 would be minimal, and generally
speaking, would not justify the increase in cost.

From the Gallup Poll website.

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Like the US would do any better
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I got 85% on the test :?
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#34 dnuggs40
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I got 85% on the test :?thirstychainsaw

Thats good, you passed.

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i got a 95% ^_^
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We're probably worse....
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[QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"]I got 85% on the test :?dnuggs40

Thats good, you passed.

Yeah, my parents already did that for me anyway.

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#38 dnuggs40
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[QUOTE="dnuggs40"]

[QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"]I got 85% on the test :?thirstychainsaw

Thats good, you passed.

Yeah, my parents already did that for me anyway.

lol

Yup...very true. But at least you are not a ugly statistic :)

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[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="Yagami-Iori"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="dnuggs40"]

[QUOTE="jointed"]This is stupid....Most canadians? 1,005 canadians did the test....dnuggs40

Do you understand the science behind polling?

yes, they pick people of different age, class and gender.

What's your point? It's still stupid, since it's only 1,000.

As long as they did proper selections (random or wide & varied demographics), it's a valid sample.I mean, you wouldn't want to include children (they could actually falsel skew numbers up, as they get these things thrown at them in school), anyone of ill mental capacity, etc. It's not like it's a small percentage off, either, least then I could discuss it all being in a deviation.

My point is thatpolls like these usually have 5,000-10,000 participants. 1,000 istoo inaccurate.

Based on what? Your personal opinion? Sorry dude, they are accurate to a pretty good degree, and the accuracy is backed up by actual science, not some guy on GS.

Cut the crap..

We're analyzing polls like this all the time in sociology class. And I'm telling you, 1,000 is inaccurate. 5,000-10,000 is the standard. You on the other hand, obviously don't know what you're talking about.

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if i took the american citizenship test i would probably get 100..since im so amazing in ap history courses
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[QUOTE="SpootyHead"]Wow. That is bad. I wonder how bad America is with our own history.metallica_fan42
I'm going to guess a lot worse.

I wouldn't think so. Our schools have alwayas pumped a consistant amount of our nation's history into our heads... or maybe I'm one of the only people that payed attention... We'll never know unless they survey us too.

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[QUOTE="metallica_fan42"][QUOTE="SpootyHead"]Wow. That is bad. I wonder how bad America is with our own history.tequilasunriser

I'm going to guess a lot worse.

I wouldn't think so. Our schools have alwayas pumped a consistant amount of our nation's history into our heads... or maybe I'm one of the only people that payed attention... We'll never know unless they survey us too.

Well, what people tend to forget is that for most people, they really only remember what they need to, not for ignorance or anything, just that when you have to deal with certain sets of information over and over again, then you tend to just recall that. So for people that are citizens, they won't remember these facts because, well... it's not going to change there life if they do or don't know it. All they have to deal with every now & again are GS forum members going "I bet USA does worse than us!" Everyone is always hatin' on the guys at the top (get ready for the same, China!)

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[QUOTE="dnuggs40"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="Yagami-Iori"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="dnuggs40"]

[QUOTE="jointed"]This is stupid....Most canadians? 1,005 canadians did the test....jointed

Do you understand the science behind polling?

yes, they pick people of different age, class and gender.

What's your point? It's still stupid, since it's only 1,000.

As long as they did proper selections (random or wide & varied demographics), it's a valid sample.I mean, you wouldn't want to include children (they could actually falsel skew numbers up, as they get these things thrown at them in school), anyone of ill mental capacity, etc. It's not like it's a small percentage off, either, least then I could discuss it all being in a deviation.

My point is thatpolls like these usually have 5,000-10,000 participants. 1,000 istoo inaccurate.

Based on what? Your personal opinion? Sorry dude, they are accurate to a pretty good degree, and the accuracy is backed up by actual science, not some guy on GS.

Cut the crap..

We're analyzing polls like this all the time in sociology class. And I'm telling you, 1,000 is inaccurate. 5,000-10,000 is the standard. You on the other hand, obviously don't know what you're talking about.

As posted before:

Gallup and other major organizations use sample sizes
of between 1,000 and 1,500 because they provide a solid balance of accuracy against the
increased economic cost of larger and larger samples. If Gallup were to -- quite expensively --
use a sample of 4,000 randomly selected adults each time it did its poll, the increase in
accuracy over and beyond a well-done sample of 1,000 would be minimal, and generally
speaking, would not justify the increase in cost.

From the Gallup Poll website.

Don't tell me it's "inaccurate", because it absolutely is not. 5,000 is merely incrementallymore accurate, but not by much. This in no way makes 1,000 "inaccurate". YOU dont know what you are talking about.

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This is stupid....Most canadians? 1,005 canadians did the test....jointed
They must have been from Manitoba...JOKING
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#45 Choga
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I got 85%...meh.
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[QUOTE="jointed"]This is stupid....Most canadians? 1,005 canadians did the test....FrostyPhantasm
They must have been from Manitoba...JOKING


XD
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I hand out the US citizenship test to my students before every semester. 60% of them fail. Go figure.LukeAF24
Do you give a review for it?

My teacher in 10th grade gave it to us, and before the tests told us what questions would be asked so we would know what to study.

I think most people based with a b or better.

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#48 kps160
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Well...lets see! Everyone go take this test:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13442226/

Report back when done and tell us how you did! I am going to take it as well, cya in a min :)

dnuggs40

I got 85%... I could have gotten the congress question right but I misunderstood it.

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#49 deactivated-5e97585ea928c
Member since 2006 • 8521 Posts
[QUOTE="dnuggs40"]

Well...lets see! Everyone go take this test:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13442226/

Report back when done and tell us how you did! I am going to take it as well, cya in a min :)

kps160

I got 85%... I could have gotten the congress question right but I misunderstood it.

40%...but hey, not to bad seeing how im Canadian.
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#50 gamerchris810
Member since 2007 • 2372 Posts
well at-least ur get no immigrants, unlike us Brits. we are full of um :evil: