Movies/books like Matrix/Inception, that make you think, long after they end?

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#2 br0kenrabbit
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Bill & Teds Excellent Adventure

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Because long after it ends, I keep thinking about how awesome the late 80's were.

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#3 creaturemagic
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So, after seeing the Matrix trilogy on sale I bought all 3 on Bluray, as I had seen them before, enjoyed them, but never owned them myself. Anyway, I watched them all last week, and watched Inception as well, as I was looking for movies with interesting concepts. Like that we live in a computer program, or that dreams can be entered and changed. I enjoy these movies and even games like Deus Ex, because they make me think even after I've finished them. Lost did the same thing, with the whole Island, and just the way people interacted on the Island.

So, I suppose you could say I'm looking for Sci-fi that makes the viewer think, that presents a very intruiging idea and leaves you with it, to think about for as long as you want.
I'm looking for a movie primarily,  but I haven't had a book to read in a few months now, so a good book that does the same sort of things would be great too!

PS: I hope I've explained it well enough  

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Memento. If you havent seen it go watch nao.
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#5 chessmaster1989
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Pan's Labyrinth is a wonderful movie.

InEMplease

I don't think it makes you think so much as decide what you want to believe about the ending (although perhaps I'm wrong, I wasn't analyzing it all that closely to try to figure out whether it was true or not). It is a great movie though, I just prefer to interpret the ending as...

[spoiler] It actually happening, rather than it being a last trick of her imagination [/spoiler]

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Primer

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World on a Wire

The novel this movie is based on is actually one of the earliest depictions of virtual reality in science fiction.

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I recommend Moon and Deep Impact, which stars Elijah Wood. Elijah always has a prominent role in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
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Fahrenheit 451, when I read it I thought it was supposed to be about state censorship, but that wasn't the impression I got from the book at all. Instead it rather seemed to be about peoples' preoccupation with entertainment media, and a complete apathy of worldly affairs and current events. Ignorant about their nation going to war, the protagonist doesn't even realize that was happening until leaving the city, where the city was attacked and destroyed. I haven't thought about it long but it's my feelings about the books intentions seem to differ than the popular conception of the book. I keep seeing people argue that it's about controlling the population, rather I feel it symbolizes a willfulness of the people to resign their idealism to self indulgence. It wasn't the picture of firefighters that burned books that I felt embodies the story, rather it was the room where the walls were TV panels and people gathered to watch violent entertainment, completely unaware that some foreign nation had bombers on their way to drop nukes on them.
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So, I suppose you could say I'm looking for Sci-fi that makes the viewer think, that presents a very intruiging idea and leaves you with it, to think about for as long as you want. creaturemagic


2001. If you want I guess you can read the book, but the film is better.

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For books I strongly recommend Atlas Shrugged, which includes elements of science-fiction and is very thought-provoking. Vector Prime from the New Jedi Order series is also very good, and is perhaps my favourite Star Wars novel.
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Memento. If you havent seen it go watch nao. ferrari2001


I still don't get this film. 

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thread title is hilarious, good job
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[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]Memento. If you havent seen it go watch nao. Big_Pecks



I still don't get this film. 

Then watch it again.. Raaaat Naooo.
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Battlefield Earth is worth a look.

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Just read good sci fi books like the Foundation trilogy, The Robot Series, Frankenstein, etc.

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[QUOTE="Big_Pecks"]

[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]Memento. If you havent seen it go watch nao. ferrari2001



I still don't get this film. 

Then watch it again.. Raaaat Naooo.

I saw it... it was very clever, but exhausting to watch.
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Primer

Dear God, that movie, man...that movie.

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Ubik, The Man in the High Castle, Time Out of Joint. All three written by Philip K. Dick.

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Primer

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After watching it 3 times in one day, i think i finally understood it, and the timeline within it.

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Magnolia made me think for some time.
There haven't been that many movies that give food for thought.

Perhaps the Green Mile? But I don't really remember how it ended or thinking about it...

The final Sherlock episode from the BBC... If you haven't watched that series go watch it! It's pretty good.
The final episode has a bit of a cliffhanger and I think I figured it out.

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So, I watched momento, anyone care to share their thoughts?
I don't like to believe this, but I do believe he was Sammy Jenkins, and that he is just a ruthless killer who will go on killing people because he doesn't remember anything. How can you feel guilty, or sad about what you've done, when you don't know you did it? 

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Donnie Darko left me wondering what the hell I'd just watched. I enjoy it and have seen it several times now but still don't fully understand it.
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Primer

Dear God, that movie, man...that movie.

Shadow4020
I'm gonna watch that one if you think it's decent. I skipped it before because the scores weren't high but you got me interested.
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Read Cloud Atlas (not the movie)

 

Also check out The Golden Compass series if you are into anti-religion novels.

 

And watch Citizen Kane. 

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Life of Pi had me thinking about it a few days after it ended.
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Life of Pi had me thinking about it a few days after it ended.Jd1680a
I know right? So damn good.
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the lathe of heaven.(1980)

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Ubik, The Man in the High Castle, Time Out of Joint. All three written by Philip K. Dick.

Baranga

No A Scanner Darkly nor Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? shens

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For books I strongly recommend Atlas Shrugged, which includes elements of science-fiction and is very thought-provoking. Vector Prime from the New Jedi Order series is also very good, and is perhaps my favourite Star Wars novel.Laihendi

 

Atlas shrugged is incredibly poorly written, libertarian here.

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[QUOTE="creaturemagic"]

So, I watched momento, anyone care to share their thoughts?
I don't like to believe this, but I do believe he was Sammy Jenkins, and that he is just a ruthless killer who will go on killing people because he doesn't remember anything. How can you feel guilty, or sad about what you've done, when you don't know you did it? 

XVision84

*SPOILERS FOR MEMENTO*

No man, he isn't sam jenkins. You know this because the ONE truth you know (and you're reminded of) throughout the entire movie is that his wife died by a man. He's haunted by countless flashbacks of that incident, and that's where his condition began. It's his last real memory. So when that person tries to tell him that he is sammy jenkins, he knew he was lying according to the picture and his last memory.

... He is Sammy. There's a shot that confirms this in the film, when they show Sammy in the mental ward and then there's a sudden flash of Leonard sitting in the chair.

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So, I watched momento, anyone care to share their thoughts?
I don't like to believe this, but I do believe he was Sammy Jenkins, and that he is just a ruthless killer who will go on killing people because he doesn't remember anything. How can you feel guilty, or sad about what you've done, when you don't know you did it? 

creaturemagic

*SPOILERS FOR MEMENTO*

No man, he isn't sam jenkins. You know this because the ONE truth you know (and you're reminded of) throughout the entire movie is that his wife died by a man. He's haunted by countless flashbacks of that incident, and that's where his condition began. It's his last real memory. So when that person tries to tell him that he is sammy jenkins, he knew he was lying according to the picture and his last memory.

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[QUOTE="XVision84"]

[QUOTE="creaturemagic"]

So, I watched momento, anyone care to share their thoughts?
I don't like to believe this, but I do believe he was Sammy Jenkins, and that he is just a ruthless killer who will go on killing people because he doesn't remember anything. How can you feel guilty, or sad about what you've done, when you don't know you did it? 

sammyjenkis898

*SPOILERS FOR MEMENTO*

No man, he isn't sam jenkins. You know this because the ONE truth you know (and you're reminded of) throughout the entire movie is that his wife died by a man. He's haunted by countless flashbacks of that incident, and that's where his condition began. It's his last real memory. So when that person tries to tell him that he is sammy jenkins, he knew he was lying according to the picture and his last memory.

... He is Sammy. There's a shot that confirms this in the film, when they show Sammy in the mental ward and then there's a sudden flash of Leonard sitting in the chair.

yeah nevermind, my bad, I just went over the movie.

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[QUOTE="XVision84"]

[QUOTE="creaturemagic"]

So, I watched momento, anyone care to share their thoughts?
I don't like to believe this, but I do believe he was Sammy Jenkins, and that he is just a ruthless killer who will go on killing people because he doesn't remember anything. How can you feel guilty, or sad about what you've done, when you don't know you did it? 

sammyjenkis898

*SPOILERS FOR MEMENTO*

No man, he isn't sam jenkins. You know this because the ONE truth you know (and you're reminded of) throughout the entire movie is that his wife died by a man. He's haunted by countless flashbacks of that incident, and that's where his condition began. It's his last real memory. So when that person tries to tell him that he is sammy jenkins, he knew he was lying according to the picture and his last memory.

... He is Sammy. There's a shot that confirms this in the film, when they show Sammy in the mental ward and then there's a sudden flash of Leonard sitting in the chair.

Also the shot of him giving his wife insulin.

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yeah... i saw inception and thought long and hard about what a terrible  badly written piece of crap it was.

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[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

*SPOILERS FOR MEMENTO*

No man, he isn't sam jenkins. You know this because the ONE truth you know (and you're reminded of) throughout the entire movie is that his wife died by a man. He's haunted by countless flashbacks of that incident, and that's where his condition began. It's his last real memory. So when that person tries to tell him that he is sammy jenkins, he knew he was lying according to the picture and his last memory.

DharmaMember77

... He is Sammy. There's a shot that confirms this in the film, when they show Sammy in the mental ward and then there's a sudden flash of Leonard sitting in the chair.

Also the shot of him giving his wife insulin.

Then what's the deal with his wife getting murdered? Did that just never happen? Or are we meant to be guessing?

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[QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]

... He is Sammy. There's a shot that confirms this in the film, when they show Sammy in the mental ward and then there's a sudden flash of Leonard sitting in the chair.

cain006

Also the shot of him giving his wife insulin.

Then what's the deal with his wife getting murdered? Did that just never happen? Or are we meant to be guessing?

He killed his wife.
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So, I watched momento, anyone care to share their thoughts?
I don't like to believe this, but I do believe he was Sammy Jenkins, and that he is just a ruthless killer who will go on killing people because he doesn't remember anything. How can you feel guilty, or sad about what you've done, when you don't know you did it? 

creaturemagic
What??? How could you get that out of the movie when they tell you exactly what happened at the end???!!! And people thinking Inception is deep is beyond me. They literally explain everything that's happening.