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#201 LZ71
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Blasphemy! Really, I dislike metal the most, though I like some of it (like Metallica) and the older stuff like Sabbath and Maiden. Besides that, only really country and newer rap.
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#202 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Ska (glorified circus music)

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Oh pish posh. :P Generic, cagey comment: you've just not listened to the right sort. :o Only a small proportion is as you perceive it. Just 'cause it's got horns in it doesn't make it "glotified circus music". :P

Dude, I remember ska (the real popular groups) back when it was actually popular a decade ago and it is most certainly circus music. It's the official music of Bozo the clown. :P

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#203 MarioRPGer
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[QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Ska (glorified circus music)

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Oh pish posh. :P Generic, cagey comment: you've just not listened to the right sort. :o Only a small proportion is as you perceive it. Just 'cause it's got horns in it doesn't make it "glotified circus music". :P

Dude, I remember ska (the real popular groups) back when it was actually popular a decade ago and it is most certainly circus music. It's the official music of Bozo the clown. :P

I guess you havent listened to Operation Ivy then.

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#204 DivergeUnify
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Metal isn't that diverse. There are subtle differences amongst the subgenres but it's pretty clear when you hear it that it's metal.

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saying groove metal or heavy metal is subtly differently from death metal or black metal is plainly ignorant

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#205 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"] I don't understand how you can listen to those and say the differences are only subtle :|:|:|Juggernaut140

Because they are. They are similar in style. That doesn't mean you can't enjoy it....but saying it's diverse is a misnomer.

:| It's obviously futile to argue with you. You can't honestly say that Brain Drill and Agalloch are similar can you?

Still have the metal stylings...yes. Did prefer Agalloch over Brain Drill though.....

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#206 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="luke1889"] Oh pish posh. :P Generic, cagey comment: you've just not listened to the right sort. :o Only a small proportion is as you perceive it. Just 'cause it's got horns in it doesn't make it "glotified circus music". :PMarioRPGer

Dude, I remember ska (the real popular groups) back when it was actually popular a decade ago and it is most certainly circus music. It's the official music of Bozo the clown. :P

I guess you havent listened to Operation Ivy then.

Never even heard of them. I'm sure there are some ska bands that just suck and aren't actually clown music but in general, most of it is right up there.

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#207 luke1889
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[QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Ska (glorified circus music)

Pirate700

Oh pish posh. :P Generic, cagey comment: you've just not listened to the right sort. :o Only a small proportion is as you perceive it. Just 'cause it's got horns in it doesn't make it "glotified circus music". :P

Dude, I remember ska (the real popular groups) back when it was actually popular a decade ago and it is most certainly circus music. It's the official music of Bozo the clown. :P

Haha, yeah, that's the cheesy, crazy happy stuff, which I love, I might add. :P There's a lot more to the genre than that though. I won't bore you with the details...just saying. And hey, Bozo the Clown loves it. :P

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#208 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Metal isn't that diverse. There are subtle differences amongst the subgenres but it's pretty clear when you hear it that it's metal.

DivergeUnify

saying groove metal or heavy metal is subtly differently from death metal or black metal is plainly ignorant

And the difference is what exactly? Groove metal is desended from thrash metal. Thrash metal is extreme heavy metal as is the origin of both death and black metal. Perhaps a bit of history might show you that I am not the one ignorant.;)

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#209 DivergeUnify
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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Metal isn't that diverse. There are subtle differences amongst the subgenres but it's pretty clear when you hear it that it's metal.

LJS9502_basic

saying groove metal or heavy metal is subtly differently from death metal or black metal is plainly ignorant

And the difference is what exactly? Groove metal is desended from thrash metal. Thrash metal is extreme heavy metal as is the origin of both death and black metal. Perhaps a bit of history might show you that I am not the one ignorant.;)

Groove is thrash inspired, not descendant from thrash. That's like saying metalcore and thrash metal are the same, because it's thrash inspired. Saying one is an "extreme" version of the other belittles the differences in themselves. Knowing the origins and being able to distinguish the differences by ear are wholly different
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#210 DivergeUnify
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This is nothing like this

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#211 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"] saying groove metal or heavy metal is subtly differently from death metal or black metal is plainly ignorant

DivergeUnify

And the difference is what exactly? Groove metal is desended from thrash metal. Thrash metal is extreme heavy metal as is the origin of both death and black metal. Perhaps a bit of history might show you that I am not the one ignorant.;)

Groove is thrash inspired, not descendant from thrash. That's like saying metalcore and thrash metal are the same, because it's thrash inspired. Saying one is an "extreme" version of the other belittles the differences in themselves. Knowing the origins and being able to distinguish the differences by ear are wholly different

Inspired means influenced by....it's not totally different. Metal is still metal at the basic level...otherwise it wouldn't be groove METAL but would have a different classification. Metalcore is punk meets metal. Metal is a guitar driven genre with pounding drums, amplified distortion, guitar solos etc, The subgenres developed off a common sound and still have it's DNA as it were. And I'm not ignorant. Ignorant means lack of knowledge. I have listened....do listen to almost all genres of music and was probably listening to metal before you listened to music. I consider that comment an insult.

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#212 LJS9502_basic
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This is nothing like this

DivergeUnify

You're kidding...right?

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#213 Saturos3091
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Yep. Not that much of a difference between those two dude.

LJS9502_basic



Summerisle Reprise (Atmospheric Folk/Doom metal band Agalloch)

Broken (Power Metal band Sonata Arctica)

The Cereal Mouse (Technical Progressive Metal band Spastic Ink)

A Divine Proclomation of Finishing... (Goregrind/Brutal Death Metal band Last Days of Humanity)

De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas (Black Metal band Mayhem)

Svart Jup (Folk Metal band Finntroll)

Not a big difference you say? There's enough of a difference to justify their seperation, that's for sure.

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#214 DivergeUnify
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Inspired means influenced by....it's not totally different. Metal is still metal at the basic level...otherwise it wouldn't be groove METAL but would have a different classification. Metalcore is punk meets metal. Metal is a guitar driven genre with pounding drums, amplified distortion, guitar solos etc, The subgenres developed off a common sound and still have it's DNA as it were. And I'm not ignorant. Ignorant means lack of knowledge. I have listened....do listen to almost all genres of music and was probably listening to metal before you listened to music. I consider that comment an insult.

LJS9502_basic

Of course it still has a core element. That's why the other subgenres are... subgenres. To suggest they're subtly different though, in my opinion, is ignorant. I don't particularly care if it's insulting, because that's how I feel on the matter. Maybe next time I should just agree with you so not to offend you

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#215 Saturos3091
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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]

This is nothing like this

LJS9502_basic

You're kidding...right?

Maybe from a theory standpoint, they're quite similar (hence being all lumped under metal), but from a songwriting and technical standpoint they're quite different, although that's not the best of examples.
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#216 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Inspired means influenced by....it's not totally different. Metal is still metal at the basic level...otherwise it wouldn't be groove METAL but would have a different classification. Metalcore is punk meets metal. Metal is a guitar driven genre with pounding drums, amplified distortion, guitar solos etc, The subgenres developed off a common sound and still have it's DNA as it were. And I'm not ignorant. Ignorant means lack of knowledge. I have listened....do listen to almost all genres of music and was probably listening to metal before you listened to music. I consider that comment an insult.

DivergeUnify

Of course it still has a core element. That's why the other subgenres are... subgenres. To suggest they're subtly different though, in my opinion, is ignorant. I don't particularly care if it's insulting, because that's how I feel on the matter. Maybe next time I should just agree with you so not to offend you

I disagree with you but not once have I resorted to calling you ignorant. Now perhaps since those songs are SO different you will enlighten us to which does not sound like metal. Because if you say they sound like metal...you are agreeing with me that the differences are subtle. Not genre redefining.

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#217 DivergeUnify
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Inspired means influenced by....it's not totally different. Metal is still metal at the basic level...otherwise it wouldn't be groove METAL but would have a different classification. Metalcore is punk meets metal. Metal is a guitar driven genre with pounding drums, amplified distortion, guitar solos etc, The subgenres developed off a common sound and still have it's DNA as it were. And I'm not ignorant. Ignorant means lack of knowledge. I have listened....do listen to almost all genres of music and was probably listening to metal before you listened to music. I consider that comment an insult.

LJS9502_basic

Of course it still has a core element. Of course groove isn't alien to death. That's why the other subgenres are... subgenres. To suggest they're subtly different though, in my opinion, is ignorant. I don't particularly care if it's insulting. It's true. Based on what you've posted about metal in the past, I don't consider "listening to metal before you listened to music" to be very important

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#218 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]

This is nothing like this

Saturos3091

You're kidding...right?

Maybe from a theory standpoint, they're quite similar (hence being all lumped under metal), but from a songwriting and technical standpoint they're quite different, although that's not the best of examples.

Well since you are a bit more reasonable....in regard to the original statement that metal is the most diverse. Metal has a core sound that is present in all subgenres...no? Notice I didn't say no difference...I said subtle. That is where the subgenres come in. But overall I don't think anyone will mistake a metal song....no matter the subgenre....for anything but metal.

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#219 DivergeUnify
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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Inspired means influenced by....it's not totally different. Metal is still metal at the basic level...otherwise it wouldn't be groove METAL but would have a different classification. Metalcore is punk meets metal. Metal is a guitar driven genre with pounding drums, amplified distortion, guitar solos etc, The subgenres developed off a common sound and still have it's DNA as it were. And I'm not ignorant. Ignorant means lack of knowledge. I have listened....do listen to almost all genres of music and was probably listening to metal before you listened to music. I consider that comment an insult.

LJS9502_basic

Of course it still has a core element. That's why the other subgenres are... subgenres. To suggest they're subtly different though, in my opinion, is ignorant. I don't particularly care if it's insulting, because that's how I feel on the matter. Maybe next time I should just agree with you so not to offend you

I disagree with you but not once have I resorted to calling you ignorant. Now perhaps since those songs are SO different you will enlighten us to which does not sound like metal. Because if you say they sound like metal...you are agreeing with me that the differences are subtle. Not genre redefining.

if the genre is described as vast or expansive, it doesn't matter if it's still metal. It doesn't mean the subgenres aren't different. They are. It's like saying every state in the US is exactly the same. The culture is the same from one square mile to the next. Also, I hardly consider ignorant an insult. If I wanted to insult you I would've called you stupid

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#220 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Inspired means influenced by....it's not totally different. Metal is still metal at the basic level...otherwise it wouldn't be groove METAL but would have a different classification. Metalcore is punk meets metal. Metal is a guitar driven genre with pounding drums, amplified distortion, guitar solos etc, The subgenres developed off a common sound and still have it's DNA as it were. And I'm not ignorant. Ignorant means lack of knowledge. I have listened....do listen to almost all genres of music and was probably listening to metal before you listened to music. I consider that comment an insult.

DivergeUnify

Of course it still has a core element. Of course groove isn't alien to death. That's why the other subgenres are... subgenres. To suggest they're subtly different though, in my opinion, is ignorant. I don't particularly care if it's insulting. It's true. Based on what you've posted about metal in the past, I don't consider "listening to metal before you listened to music" to be very important

Then I suggest you read up on the definition of ignorant since that is key to your ad hominem attack on me.:)

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#221 Saturos3091
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Metal is a guitar driven genre with pounding drums, amplified distortion, guitar solos etc, The subgenres developed off a common sound and still have it's DNA as it were.LJS9502_basic
That's not true at all, there are numerous metal bands that don't feature any of that (solos and "pounding" drums are left out more often than the others though).
I disagree with you but not once have I resorted to calling you ignorant. Now perhaps since those songs are SO different you will enlighten us to which does not sound like metal. Because if you say they sound like metal...you are agreeing with me that the differences are subtle. Not genre redefining.

LJS9502_basic

That's why there's different subgenres, not genres. There's enough of a difference to seperate them into different subgenres at least, especially since the genre is so ridiculously oversaturated as it is.

EDIT: just saw your other post...

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#222 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Metal is a guitar driven genre with pounding drums, amplified distortion, guitar solos etc, The subgenres developed off a common sound and still have it's DNA as it were.Saturos3091

That's not true at all, there are numerous metal bands that don't feature any of that (solos and "pounding" drums are left out more often than the others though).
I disagree with you but not once have I resorted to calling you ignorant. Now perhaps since those songs are SO different you will enlighten us to which does not sound like metal. Because if you say they sound like metal...you are agreeing with me that the differences are subtle. Not genre redefining.

LJS9502_basic

That's why there's different subgenres, not genres. There's enough of a difference to seperate them into different subgenres at least, especially since the genre is so ridiculously oversaturated as it is.

Subtle differences. Not major. Why is that metal fans get all offended at PERCEIVED insults to what they like. Music does not exist in a vacuum. It's classified for specific reasons and it builds off other styles. Metal is a part of the rock genre....but that gets metal fans upset as well. I don't get it.

And for the above quote.....what subgenre of metal never uses solos or pounding drums. Note I said subgenre...not bands.

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#223 DivergeUnify
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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Inspired means influenced by....it's not totally different. Metal is still metal at the basic level...otherwise it wouldn't be groove METAL but would have a different classification. Metalcore is punk meets metal. Metal is a guitar driven genre with pounding drums, amplified distortion, guitar solos etc, The subgenres developed off a common sound and still have it's DNA as it were. And I'm not ignorant. Ignorant means lack of knowledge. I have listened....do listen to almost all genres of music and was probably listening to metal before you listened to music. I consider that comment an insult.

LJS9502_basic

Of course it still has a core element. Of course groove isn't alien to death. That's why the other subgenres are... subgenres. To suggest they're subtly different though, in my opinion, is ignorant. I don't particularly care if it's insulting. It's true. Based on what you've posted about metal in the past, I don't consider "listening to metal before you listened to music" to be very important

Then I suggest you read up on the definition of ignorant since that is key to your ad hominem attack on me.:)

if you really want to argue my use of the word "ignorant", then you're really suggesting stupid would've been more fitting. I wasn't insulting you by calling you ignorant. I addressed what you said and added, in general, to call metal all the same is ignorant. I said it's an ignorant thing to say
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#224 Rikardur
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The Cure sounds just like any other rock band out there. Only subtle differences here, my friends.

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#225 deactivated-5c8e4e07d5510
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I'm just going to jump in here and post a metal song that doesn't fit any of the above mentioned descriptions except basic guitar and dums.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxaFANthouM

Sorry, I can't link it because of "unclosed tags" :roll:

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Also, I don't feel anyone is getting offended by what you said about metal. I like metal, but I don't hail it as the greatest thing to ever happen to music.
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#227 LJS9502_basic
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The Cure sounds just like any other rock band out there. Only subtle differences here, my friends.

Rikardur

I think you'd have to be more specific since rock is a broad genre with many subgenres. Metal is rock. If you think The Cure sounds like metal, or ska, or hardcore punk then I don't think you've heard them.;)

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#228 DivergeUnify
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[QUOTE="Rikardur"]

The Cure sounds just like any other rock band out there. Only subtle differences here, my friends.

LJS9502_basic

I think you'd have to be more specific since rock is a broad genre with many subgenres. Metal is rock. If you think The Cure sounds like metal, or ska, or hardcore punk then I don't think you've heard them.;)

This is a really hypocritical post. After that whole argument over me calling you ignorant? You describe Rikardur as ignorant? Really?
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#229 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Rikardur"]

The Cure sounds just like any other rock band out there. Only subtle differences here, my friends.

DivergeUnify

I think you'd have to be more specific since rock is a broad genre with many subgenres. Metal is rock. If you think The Cure sounds like metal, or ska, or hardcore punk then I don't think you've heard them.;)

This is a really hypocritical post. After that whole argument over me calling you ignorant? You describe Rikardur as ignorant? Really?

I didn't call him anything. I said he hasn't heard them if he thinks they fit those genres.:roll:

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#230 omfg_its_dally
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What music do you hate?

For me, I hate thrash metal (Metallica), death metal, black metal, rap, techno, and country.

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I hate all of these too.
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#231 DivergeUnify
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I didn't call him anything. I said he hasn't heard them if he thinks they fit those genres.:roll:

LJS9502_basic

I said you described him as ignorant. The use of the word isn't neccessary. You assumed he hasn't heard The Cure because he said they sound the same as the rest of rock out there, in which you essentially called him ignorant.

Perhaps you should look up the word ignorant :|

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#232 Saturos3091
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Well since you are a bit more reasonable....in regard to the original statement that metal is the most diverse. Metal has a core sound that is present in all subgenres...no? Notice I didn't say no difference...I said subtle. That is where the subgenres come in. But overall I don't think anyone will mistake a metal song....no matter the subgenre....for anything but metal.LJS9502_basic

Well, I guess from a general point of view that would be correct. However, like with every genre there are numerous outliers that are far more common in metal than it may seem. There are self-proclaimed metal bands that play music people have trouble classifying as anything, metal or not. From piano, to classical instruments, to folk instruments, the genre has a lot of variety on an instrumental compared to other genres, leading to different composition/songwriting techniques. Metal has a lot of variety in it's subgenres, perhaps it still won't appeal to a non-metal fan (on a sidenote there's a band in every genre that's worth listening to, it's all a matter of finding them) but on it's own it still is one of the most diverse.

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#233 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

I didn't call him anything. I said he hasn't heard them if he thinks they fit those genres.:roll:

DivergeUnify

I said you described him as ignorant. The use of the word isn't neccessary. You assumed he hasn't heard The Cure because he said they sound the same as the rest of rock out there, in which you essentially called him ignorant.

Perhaps you should look up the word ignorant :|

I suggested he hadn't heard The Cure...his post wasn't intended to further discussion anyway. It was a slam at me. As a policy I don't discuss with those who use ad hominem attacks. Bye.

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#234 DivergeUnify
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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

I didn't call him anything. I said he hasn't heard them if he thinks they fit those genres.:roll:

LJS9502_basic

I said you described him as ignorant. The use of the word isn't neccessary. You assumed he hasn't heard The Cure because he said they sound the same as the rest of rock out there, in which you essentially called him ignorant.

Perhaps you should look up the word ignorant :|

I suggested he hadn't heard The Cure...his post wasn't intended to further discussion anyway. It was a slam at me. As a policy I don't discuss with those who use ad hominem attacks. Bye.

You suggested he was ignorant. If he hadn't heard The Cure, then that's the same as saying he's ignorant of The Cure's music. Again, calling you ignorant wasn't an insult, much as you suggesting he hadn't listened to The Cure wasn't an insult.
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#235 pierst179
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Rap, R&B and Techno.

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#236 thepwninator
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I tend to dislike "-core" subgenres, as well as most rap and death/black metal.
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#237 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Well since you are a bit more reasonable....in regard to the original statement that metal is the most diverse. Metal has a core sound that is present in all subgenres...no? Notice I didn't say no difference...I said subtle. That is where the subgenres come in. But overall I don't think anyone will mistake a metal song....no matter the subgenre....for anything but metal.Saturos3091

Well, I guess from a general point of view that would be correct. However, like with every genre there are numerous outliers that are far more common in metal than it may seem. There are self-proclaimed metal bands that play music people have trouble classifying as anything, metal or not. From piano, to classical instruments, to folk instruments, the genre has a lot of variety on an instrumental compared to other genres, leading to different composition/songwriting techniques. Metal has a lot of variety in it's subgenres, perhaps it still won't appeal to a non-metal fan (on a sidenote there's a band in every genre that's worth listening to, it's all a matter of finding them) but on it's own it still is one of the most diverse.

I never said all metal subgenres were identical. Merely that what changes the classification is a subtle difference that defines it a bit differently. Instead of singing....they growl or whatever word you choose to use. Or change tempo...etc.

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#238 Saturos3091
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Subtle differences. Not major. Why is that metal fans get all offended at PERCEIVED insults to what they like. Music does not exist in a vacuum. It's classified for specific reasons and it builds off other styles. Metal is a part of the rock genre....but that gets metal fans upset as well. I don't get it.

And for the above quote.....what subgenre of metal never uses solos or pounding drums. Note I said subgenre...not bands.

LJS9502_basic

I know it's a part of rock, there's nothing wrong with that. And relax, that's why I editted my post after I read your previous one. I thought that you were clearly saying something along the lines of "there is no difference at all between black/death/thrash/doom/folk/progressive and their subgenres." I hadn't seen your previous post (about subtle differences; however subtle) when I mentioned that.

There's a lot of genres that don't use solos or pounding drums, but there might be bands in them that do. :P As for a genre that doesn't and doesn't have a band that I know of that uses them, there's drone metal (a ridiculously tough to get into subgenre of metal).

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#239 Rikardur
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[QUOTE="Rikardur"]

The Cure sounds just like any other rock band out there. Only subtle differences here, my friends.

LJS9502_basic

I think you'd have to be more specific since rock is a broad genre with many subgenres. Metal is rock. If you think The Cure sounds like metal, or ska, or hardcore punk then I don't think you've heard them.;)

I wouldn't say metal IS rock, but rather derived from rock.

And to be more specific:

The Cure

Muse

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The Cure

HIM

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#240 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Rikardur"]

The Cure sounds just like any other rock band out there. Only subtle differences here, my friends.

Rikardur

I think you'd have to be more specific since rock is a broad genre with many subgenres. Metal is rock. If you think The Cure sounds like metal, or ska, or hardcore punk then I don't think you've heard them.;)

I wouldn't say metal IS rock, but rather derived from rock.

And to be more specific:

The Cure

Muse

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The Cure

HIM

Similarities

*sigh* I'll respond merely to tell you that The Cure came before both of those bands so any similarity would not be the fault of The Cure. On the other hand alternative has a specific sound in and of itself as does the various subgenres. Your point?:roll:

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#241 -Misanthropic-
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I wouldn't say metal IS rock, but rather derived from rock.

Rikardur

Its a subgenre of rock if thats what you mean...

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#242 deactivated-5c8e4e07d5510
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I wouldn't say metal IS rock, but rather derived from rock.

And to be more specific:

The Cure

Muse

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The Cure

HIM

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Rikardur

Of course there's similarities. It's all alternative rock. Or whatever HIM is....

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Coheed and Cambria=The Antichrist of music. Seriously, how do they have such a big following?

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#244 LJS9502_basic
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Of course there's similarities. It's all alternative rock. Or whatever HIM is....

Guppy507

Yeah alternative.

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#245 Rikardur
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[QUOTE="Rikardur"]

I wouldn't say metal IS rock, but rather derived from rock.

-Misanthropic-

Its a subgenre of rock if thats what you mean...

Well I say that rock is more of metal's stylistic origin, especially from Hard rock, Blues-rock and
Psychedelic rock

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#246 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="-Misanthropic-"]

[QUOTE="Rikardur"]

I wouldn't say metal IS rock, but rather derived from rock.

Rikardur

Its a subgenre of rock if thats what you mean...

Well I say that rock is more of metal's stylistic origin.

Well it's more rock than jazz is it not?

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#247 Rikardur
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Rikardur"][QUOTE="-Misanthropic-"]

Its a subgenre of rock if thats what you mean...

Well I say that rock is more of metal's stylistic origin.

Well it's more rock than jazz is it not?

Of course. Thats what I said. Rock is the base for metal's stylistic origins.
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#248 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Rikardur"] Well I say that rock is more of metal's stylistic origin.Rikardur

Well it's more rock than jazz is it not?

Of course. Thats what I said. Rock is the base for metal's stylistic origins.

Well if you made a family tree...it's a genre of rock. Rock is very diverse. Each subgenre...not as much.

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I have rather cosmopolitan tastes in music. I listen to many varieties in several languages.

About the only thing I can not take is Dixieland.

I have also had my fill of big band because that is all my dad will listen to ... day and night.

Constant 30s and 40s stuff drives me up the wall.

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I was coming in here expecting the usual answers... rap, country, metal, pop, whatever... but dixieland is suprising. I like early jazz stuff like ragtime and dixieland but must admit I love the later stuff like bebop, cool, etc. a lot more...

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#250 Immortalica
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Rap.