My brother just got suspended from school for being A Danger to Public Health

Because he didn't get a tetanus vaccine. Government of Ontario forcing kids to get vaccines now. Him and 148 other kids got suspended with more supposedly supposed to be suspended there were just too many to suspend all at once. I assume this will be on the news soon when parents start complaining because everybody just found out today.

He was suspended and isn't allowed to attend school until he gets its because he was a danger to "Public Health" for not getting a vaccine for a non contagious disease. Let that soak into your head for a minute.

Don't you just love the way this world is progressing?

Why doesn't your stupid brother just get a tetanus vaccine? JML897

Why doesn't your stupid brother just get a tetanus vaccine? JML897

[QUOTE="JML897"]Why doesn't your stupid brother just get a tetanus vaccine? Canuck3000

Why doesn't your stupid brother just get a tetanus vaccine? JML897

They're forcing vaccines for diseases that aren't even contagious. Does that not seem a little strange to you? Calling someone a "Danger to Public Health" because they didn't get a vaccine for a non contagious disease?

What if he's driving, tetanus hits and he crashes into a pedestrian or another driver? That's a danger to public health.

Not saying that's a good excuse, but it could be a possible valid one.

I don't know why your brother wouldn't want the vaccine anyways...

He seems like a terrorist. No sympathy.kuraimen

This.

Next thing you know, he's gonna cough on somebody. :o

[QUOTE="JML897"]Why doesn't your stupid brother just get a tetanus vaccine? Vickman178

There forcing vaccines for diseases that aren't even contagious. Does that not seem a little strange to you? Calling someone a "Danger to Public Health" because they didn't get a vaccine for a non contagious disease?

[QUOTE="JML897"]Why doesn't your stupid brother just get a tetanus vaccine? Vickman178

They're forcing vaccines for diseases that aren't even contagious. Does that not seem a little strange to you? Calling someone a "Danger to Public Health" because they didn't get a vaccine for a non contagious disease?

The vaccine isn't just for tetanus. It also vaccinates you against diphtheria and pertussis, which are contagious. So why doesn't your stupid brother just get the vaccine?

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[QUOTE="JML897"]Why doesn't your stupid brother just get a tetanus vaccine? worlock77

They're forcing vaccines for diseases that aren't even contagious. Does that not seem a little strange to you? Calling someone a "Danger to Public Health" because they didn't get a vaccine for a non contagious disease?

The vaccine isn't just for tetanus. It also vaccinates you against diphtheria and pertussis, which are contagious. So why doesn't your stupid brother just get the vaccine?

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[QUOTE="JML897"]Why doesn't your stupid brother just get a tetanus vaccine? JML897

There forcing vaccines for diseases that aren't even contagious. Does that not seem a little strange to you? Calling someone a "Danger to Public Health" because they didn't get a vaccine for a non contagious disease?

Ok first of all he's not a crybaby he didn't even know, the law just came into effect today and 148 other kids in his school alone got suspended too. The whole point of this discussion was to point out how ridiculous it is that Government would force this especially for something non contagious.

Yes the act of getting a tetanus shot is not bad at all, I got one after I cut myself on some rusty piece of metal. But the point is it shouldn't be forced onto people.

Vaccines are evil and a way for the government to control our minds. Didn't you know?

We should be refusing all vaccines, like polio, pertussis, tetanus, Hep B, because they all do more harm than good. Chemicals and biology are evil.

It may actually be possible to sue a school if a child gets infected with tetanus, one could claim that the school failed to give proper medical attention. Considering that, it's completely just to make such vaccines mandatory.

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There forcing vaccines for diseases that aren't even contagious. Does that not seem a little strange to you? Calling someone a "Danger to Public Health" because they didn't get a vaccine for a non contagious disease?

Vickman178

Ok first of all he's not a crybaby he didn't even know, the law just came into effect today and 148 other kids in his school alone got suspended too. The whole point of this discussion was to point out how ridiculous it is that Government would force this especially for something non contagious.

Yes the act of getting a tetanus shot is not bad at all, I got one after I cut myself on some rusty piece of metal. But the point is it shouldn't be forced onto people.

[QUOTE="JML897"][QUOTE="Vickman178"]

 

There forcing vaccines for diseases that aren't even contagious. Does that not seem a little strange to you? Calling someone a "Danger to Public Health" because they didn't get a vaccine for a non contagious disease?

Vickman178

Ok first of all he's not a crybaby he didn't even know, the law just came into effect today and 148 other kids in his school alone got suspended too. The whole point of this discussion was to point out how ridiculous it is that Government would force this especially for something non contagious.

Yes the act of getting a tetanus shot is not bad at all, I got one after I cut myself on some rusty piece of metal. But the point is it shouldn't be forced onto people.

Again, the vaccine covers several diseases which are contagious and can be serious.

the law just came into effect today and 148 other kids in his school alone got suspended too. Vickman178

Why doesn't your stupid brother just get a tetanus vaccine? JML897

[QUOTE="JML897"][QUOTE="Vickman178"]

There forcing vaccines for diseases that aren't even contagious. Does that not seem a little strange to you? Calling someone a "Danger to Public Health" because they didn't get a vaccine for a non contagious disease?

Vickman178

Ok first of all he's not a crybaby he didn't even know, the law just came into effect today and 148 other kids in his school alone got suspended too. The whole point of this discussion was to point out how ridiculous it is that Government would force this especially for something non contagious.

. But the point is it shouldn't be forced onto people.

The high school that I attended had almost 2000 students. Could you imagine how fast some of the other diseases that are included in the vaccine could spread from just one unvaccinated and infected person? I have 2 kids, a 16 yr old and a 14 yr old. I sure as hell do not want them going to school with thousands of other students if some of them are not vaccinated against communicable diseases.

I understand that Tetanus is not contagious, but the others are. So I do see your point but you should also see ours. Tell you what. Like it or not, no matter how much you complain, your brother is NOT going to go back to school and finish his education until he gets that vaccine.

Let me ask you this: Does your brother's right to NOT be forced to be vaccinated trump other students right to attend a safe, disease free school environment?

I don't have the answers to all of this. I just hope he does the right thing. But in this case, what is the right thing? Protect his civil liberties or violate that of others?

He seems like a terrorist. No sympathy.kuraimen

Why wouldn't someone want to get a tetanus shot...?

Why wouldn't someone want to get a tetanus shot...?

airshocker

Because vaccines cause autism. Didn't you know? 

Why wouldn't someone want to get a tetanus shot...?

airshocker

Newage meds is where it's at, brah

Because vaccines cause autism. Didn't you know? 

jimkabrhel

I hope not, because my monster has had so many vaccines it would make your head spin.

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Because vaccines cause autism. Didn't you know? 

airshocker

I hope not, because my monster has had so many vaccines it would make your head spin.

No, there is no direct link. The fear of vaccines comes from a debunked study out of England from more than a decade ago. I can understand it though. Parents of autistic children often want to find a reason for the diagnosis, a chemical, an illness, something, so they latch onto something, even if it's tenuous.

The chemical in question was thiomersal, which contains a mercury atom in the molecule, though the compound in generally save as a preservative, in small quantities. You have more mercury in the fish you eat and in your fillings.

I thought a recent study was saying that there were some dietary concerns in the diagnosis of autism as well.

Yeah our world is so terrible when your government makes it mandatory for you take a shot that saves lives. A shot that billions around the world don't have access too.

Such a damn shame if you ask me.

:roll:

You know, vaccines are kinda one of the nice things about living in this day and age. Not sure why someone would pass on them.

Yeah our world is so terrible when your government makes it mandatory for you take a shot that saves lives. A shot that billions around the world don't have access too.

Such a damn shame if you ask me.

:roll:

Wasdie

Why doesn't your stupid brother just get a tetanus vaccine? JML897

Lol did you know last year's flu vaccine was only helpful in 60% of cases? That's right, the major one that everyone gets, fails to help at all 4/10 times. Vaccinations are just another ploy for job creation (nurses) and $$$.Nibroc420

Or the flu vaccine is developed before the flu hits and it's a predictive cocktail of different kinds of the virus that are expected to be the most similar to the current strain that year?

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Yeah our world is so terrible when your government makes it mandatory for you take a shot that saves lives. A shot that billions around the world don't have access too.

Such a damn shame if you ask me.

:roll:

Nibroc420

Save money? It's in Ontario, it's probably free. 

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Yeah our world is so terrible when your government makes it mandatory for you take a shot that saves lives. A shot that billions around the world don't have access too.

Such a damn shame if you ask me.

:roll:

Nibroc420

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Yeah our world is so terrible when your government makes it mandatory for you take a shot that saves lives. A shot that billions around the world don't have access too.

Such a damn shame if you ask me.

:roll:

Wasdie

Save money? It's in Ontario, it's probably free. 

Why doesn't your stupid brother just get a tetanus vaccine? JML897

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] There's no solid evidence that suggests the shot does anything. And much like last year's flu shot, there's a chance that even if he got the shot, there's a huge chance it would do nothing. >Spend $100 to get an inoculation that might do nothing except make you feel safe. >Save $100 and deal with the slightly higher chance of sickness afterwards.Nibroc420

Save money? It's in Ontario, it's probably free. 

Time = money for a high school kid?

No go one, refute this one, I'm actually enjoying watching you come up with completely asinine excuses. 

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Yeah our world is so terrible when your government makes it mandatory for you take a shot that saves lives. A shot that billions around the world don't have access too.

Such a damn shame if you ask me.

:roll:

Wasdie

Save money? It's in Ontario, it's probably free. 

>2013

>arguing with nibroc

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Save money? It's in Ontario, it's probably free. 

Wasdie

Time = money for a high school kid?

No go one, refute this one, I'm actually enjoying watching you come up with completely asinine rebuttals. 

[QUOTE="Vickman178"]

[QUOTE="JML897"] I had to get a tetanus vaccine (maybe it was a tetanus booster) before going into high school. Because I wasn't a big crybaby I actually went and got the tetanus vaccine. It's not a big deal. JML897

Ok first of all he's not a crybaby he didn't even know, the law just came into effect today and 148 other kids in his school alone got suspended too. The whole point of this discussion was to point out how ridiculous it is that Government would force this especially for something non contagious.

Yes the act of getting a tetanus shot is not bad at all, I got one after I cut myself on some rusty piece of metal. But the point is it shouldn't be forced onto people.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Yeah our world is so terrible when your government makes it mandatory for you take a shot that saves lives. A shot that billions around the world don't have access too.

Such a damn shame if you ask me.

:roll:

Person0

Hmm, Google shows no research with it saying 95% effective.

I read a few things about how the effectveness decreases after a few immunizations.

And this site saying that although DTaP vaccinations have increased between 1991-2008, pertussis infections have increased.
Leading educated people to believe the shots do nothing

[QUOTE="JML897"][QUOTE="Vickman178"]

 

Ok first of all he's not a crybaby he didn't even know, the law just came into effect today and 148 other kids in his school alone got suspended too. The whole point of this discussion was to point out how ridiculous it is that Government would force this especially for something non contagious.

 

Yes the act of getting a tetanus shot is not bad at all, I got one after I cut myself on some rusty piece of metal. But the point is it shouldn't be forced onto people.

mingmao3046

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="JML897"] Okay. If the law really just went into effect today with no warning whatsoever and the kids were immediately suspended, then yeah, your brother has a real gripe. I kind-of doubt that though. Otherwise this thread just reminds me of people who want to protest motorcycle helmet laws. What are you trying to prove, exactly? "I'll show you by...needlessly putting my health at risk!" PannicAtack

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="JML897"] Okay. If the law really just went into effect today with no warning whatsoever and the kids were immediately suspended, then yeah, your brother has a real gripe. I kind-of doubt that though. Otherwise this thread just reminds me of people who want to protest motorcycle helmet laws. What are you trying to prove, exactly? "I'll show you by...needlessly putting my health at risk!" PannicAtack