my cousin got arrested for..and i need a idea of what kind of chargers theyll

they will face :(

serious opions only somebody has to know what the might be in for

http://www.herald-citizen.com/index.cfm?event=news.view&id=FD31F0BB-19B9-E2E2-67C1DF794853C1DC

Did you accidentally it?

Edit: Oh, I see the link now. Seems they're in pretty deep ****. Couldn't tell you what to do.

I lol'd. Drinking and driving is a bad idea. Drinking and driving and firing an AR-15 assault rifle is such an epically bad idea, its almost a win. As for charges, sorry... can't help you there.

Reckless endangerment, felony possession of illegal weapons, driving while under the influence (DUI), minor in possession of alcohol, public intoxication, property damage, disturbing the peace, etc. Roughly in the order of severity. Oh yeah, and whoever owned that assault rifle is ****ed too. Your cousin is going away for at least a few years, bud. Better start baking that cake to put a file in!

Edit: I guess they weren't underage... did anyone have a license for that AR-15?

Reckless endangerment, felony possession of illegal weapons, minor in possession of a weapon, driving while under the influence (DUI), minor in possession of alcohol, public intoxication, property damage, disturbing the peace, etc. Roughly in the order of severity. Oh yeah, and whoever owned that assault rifle is ****ed too. Your cousin is going away for at least a few years, bud. Better start baking that cake to put a file in!

cowplayinghalo

so how do you think the judge is going to react when they see they admited to firing bullets in the air while driving in a residential area michaelt7

[QUOTE="michaelt7"]so how do you think the judge is going to react when they see they admited to firing bullets in the air while driving in a residential area GrandJury

Pretty sure he will be in jail or something similar. Firing Assult Riffle is like that is not small, the dropping bullet can really seriously hurt some body, just pray there was no report on the dead body near by.magicalclick

he isnt my freind hes a family member :( you think thell do time for this....michaelt7

No offense, but I hope so.

That's some serious ****.

That's not only some dangerous stuff that could have resulted in people being killed (and that's even with me giving them the benefit of the doubt and believing their story about "firing guns into the air" as opposed to doing drive-by shootings on actual people and homes), but it's also extremely ****ing stupid. Even if I assume that they really weren';t trying to hurt anyone, their actions were so unbelievably stupid that I believe they need a kick in the face before they get into even more trouble.

This was BAD, and letting them off easy is only going to let them think that they can get away with this. Someone really could have ****ing died (even if they weren't actually TRYING to kill someone), and they need time in prison to know how serious this **** is. Furthermore, they also need to realize that if they're going to be criminals, that they need to ****ing think about what they're doing before they do stuff. Jesus Christ...driving around intoxicated while firing an assault rifle from a moving car? Seriously, what the ****? People sell drugs because they want to get something out of it. People do drive-by shootings because they want to get something out of it. High risk sort of demands the potential for a high reward.

But if we believe that these men were doing this kind of dangerous and high-risk stuff for no other reward than FUN, all I have to say is...what the **** were they thinking? Best case scenario for them, what were they even expecting to get out of this? They get a little bit of fun, and that's it? THAT'S what they thought was worth risking doing serious prison time?

As I said, at least drug dealers expect to get something out of what they do. That's almost not even as bad, because at least you can see the logic in that. But these men? Seriously, what the hell? If they didn't at any point decide that that was a horrible ****ing idea, then they're thought processes are obviously all ****ed up, and I'd wager that they NEED to do some prison time for their own benefit.

[QUOTE="michaelt7"]so how do you think the judge is going to react when they see they admited to firing bullets in the air while driving in a residential area GrandJury

If no one was hurt, I think a heavy fine or community service would suffice. Maybe some jailtime but I really don't see the need to overcrowd jails even more with four obviously stupid and not malicious, teenagers.

it already says what he's being charged for. if it's his first time getting in trouble, he can probably get the underage drinking dropped, i don't know how serious the other is though.

Sorry, He's screwed. Maybe not in jailtime but who knows

so how much damage do falling bullets cause? Assuming you shoot them at a 45degree angle or around thereF1_2004

[QUOTE="F1_2004"]so how much damage do falling bullets cause? Assuming you shoot them at a 45degree angle or around therehtekemerald

[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

[QUOTE="F1_2004"]so how much damage do falling bullets cause? Assuming you shoot them at a 45degree angle or around thereKungfuKitten

Furthermore, bullets maintain a parabolic trajectory when fired into the air. You can fire bullets into the air, and here's what happens...they follow a curved trajectory. They go into the air point first, then they come DOWN point-first. They maintin their trajectory and still work as effective projectiles provided that they are fired from a low enough angle.

This is PARTICULARLY true given the details of the case. These men were shooting into the air from a moving car. As in, they were sitting IN a car, and were firing out of a window. Most windows are on the SIDE of a car, as opposed to on the TOP. This means that it is VERY likely that they were shooting at a relatively low angle, probably low enough for the bullet to maintain its trajectory without tumbling.

Now, when that bullet hits something, its vertical speed obviously isn't going to exceed terminal velocity. However, it very well may still have a significant HORIZONTAL component to its speed. That's the thing here...speed is scalar, while velocity is a VECTOR measurement. There is both a horizontal AND a vertical component to that projectile. Terminal velocity works downwards. Vertically. But when that bullet hits a car or a baby, there is quite likely still a horizontal component to that projectile's motion. It might be moving DOWNWARDS at a non-lethal speed, but downwards motion is only part of the projectile's motion. There's still the horzontal component of the projectile's motion. And when you add these two vectors together, while dealing with bullets whch are designed to be aerodynamic and NOT tumble, you end up with SPEEDS (as opposed to velocity) which are still well high enough to kill people.

Yes, this has happened. There have been documented cases of people being killed by falling bullets. This is even more likely to happen when you shoot at a low angle (such as, out of a car window) so as to reduce the chances of the bullet tumbling and to minimize the chances of the bullet reaching the ground in a primarily vertical direction.

Probably 200 days or so...

discharging a weapon from a vehicletends to only get major time if somebody is actually hurt.

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

[QUOTE="htekemerald"] They can, and have, killed people.

MrGeezer

Furthermore, bullets maintain a parabolic trajectory when fired into the air. You can fire bullets into the air, and here's what happens...they follow a curved trajectory. They go into the air point first, then they come DOWN point-first. They maintin their trajectory and still work as effective projectiles provided that they are fired from a low enough angle.

This is PARTICULARLY true given the details of the case. These men were shooting into the air from a moving car. As in, they were sitting IN a car, and were firing out of a window. Most windows are on the SIDE of a car, as opposed to on the TOP. This means that it is VERY likely that they were shooting at a relatively low angle, probably low enough for the bullet to maintain its trajectory without tumbling.

Now, when that bullet hits something, its vertical speed obviously isn't going to exceed terminal velocity. However, it very well may still have a significant HORIZONTAL component to its speed. That's the thing here...speed is scalar, while velocity is a VECTOR measurement. There is both a horizontal AND a vertical component to that projectile. Terminal velocity works downwards. Vertically. But when that bullet hits a car or a baby, there is quite likely still a horizontal component to that projectile's motion. It might be moving DOWNWARDS at a non-lethal speed, but downwards motion is only part of the projectile's motion. There's still the horzontal component of the projectile's motion. And when you add these two vectors together, while dealing with bullets whch are designed to be aerodynamic and NOT tumble, you end up with SPEEDS (as opposed to velocity) which are still well high enough to kill people.

Yes, this has happened. There have been documented cases of people being killed by falling bullets. This is even more likely to happen when you shoot at a low angle (such as, out of a car window) so as to reduce the chances of the bullet tumbling and to minimize the chances of the bullet reaching the ground in a primarily vertical direction.

Haha, yesh. Where did You get that energy from to type that much?

Luckily the odds of hitting someone with a falling bullet are rather small. I wouldn't get too worried about it right now unless it actually happened.

KungfuKitten

I just like to type.

Anyway, the odds of those bullets killing or hurting someone are quite small, but the odds are large enough that this stuff actually happens.

In any case, like I said before, shooting into the air is just a stupid and dangerous thing to do unless it's done in a controlled environment. And it's especially stupid when you do it while drinking, while underaged, and while doing it from a moving car in a residential area.

And I still don't entirely buy the excuse that they were shooting into the air instead of at people.

jesus h christ, if you want a way to get arrested, thats one way

there going to get him on illegal possesion of a lethal weapon......what the hell was he doing with an damn AR-15:o

and there also going to get him on the drinking

Firing an assault rifle in a residential area is bad enough, then add the fact that they were drunk AND driving? Reckless endangerment doesn't even begin to describe it.

A good while hopefully. Seriously who does that?GrandJury

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

[QUOTE="htekemerald"] They can, and have, killed people.

MrGeezer

Furthermore, bullets maintain a parabolic trajectory when fired into the air. You can fire bullets into the air, and here's what happens...they follow a curved trajectory. They go into the air point first, then they come DOWN point-first. They maintin their trajectory and still work as effective projectiles provided that they are fired from a low enough angle.

This is PARTICULARLY true given the details of the case. These men were shooting into the air from a moving car. As in, they were sitting IN a car, and were firing out of a window. Most windows are on the SIDE of a car, as opposed to on the TOP. This means that it is VERY likely that they were shooting at a relatively low angle, probably low enough for the bullet to maintain its trajectory without tumbling.

Now, when that bullet hits something, its vertical speed obviously isn't going to exceed terminal velocity. However, it very well may still have a significant HORIZONTAL component to its speed. That's the thing here...speed is scalar, while velocity is a VECTOR measurement. There is both a horizontal AND a vertical component to that projectile. Terminal velocity works downwards. Vertically. But when that bullet hits a car or a baby, there is quite likely still a horizontal component to that projectile's motion. It might be moving DOWNWARDS at a non-lethal speed, but downwards motion is only part of the projectile's motion. There's still the horzontal component of the projectile's motion. And when you add these two vectors together, while dealing with bullets whch are designed to be aerodynamic and NOT tumble, you end up with SPEEDS (as opposed to velocity) which are still well high enough to kill people.

Yes, this has happened. There have been documented cases of people being killed by falling bullets. This is even more likely to happen when you shoot at a low angle (such as, out of a car window) so as to reduce the chances of the bullet tumbling and to minimize the chances of the bullet reaching the ground in a primarily vertical direction.

Dude, huge needless wall of text and kinda wrong. Terminal velocity is in whatever direction the bullet is flying, not just downwards. If it's flying at an angle, the terminal velocity is reached whenever the drag forces on the bullet equal the component of the gravity force acting in the direction of the bullet's motion.

But basically, yeah it's dangerous in the odd chance it does hit someone. Unless it's fired perfectly vertically, it will maintain its ballistic trajectory and head point-first into something. Even if it's coming almost straight down.

Send him to Absolum... YEAHHH!!!!!

ohh dear.

Dude, huge needless wall of text and kinda wrong. Terminal velocity is in whatever direction the bullet is flying, not just downwards. If it's flying at an angle, the terminal velocity is reached whenever the drag forces on the bullet equal the component of the gravity force acting in the direction of the bullet's motion.

But basically, yeah it's dangerous in the odd chance it does hit someone. Unless it's fired perfectly vertically, it will maintain its ballistic trajectory and head point-first into something. Even if it's coming almost straight down.

F1_2004

I'm aware of that...I made a point of saying that velocity is a vector measurement, unlike speed.

The thing is, when people refer to terminal velocity, I have never ever seen anyone specify a direction other than an implied "straight down". In common usage the term "terminal velocity" is used as a synonym for "maximum speed straight downwards."

At least six months.

I predict they will get a fine, one year probation, mandatory substance abuse counseling with 120 days of community service.

I don't know, isn't bail set at $1,000? It all depends on the judge at this point. I don't think he'll have to do a lot of time in jail, 1 year maximum.