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#1 chugachea
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We've been going out for about 8 months now and she finally decided to tell me that shes a satanist, but im an agnostic so i dont really care. I was just wondering if satanism is really how itsportrayed on tv with human sacrifices and all that creepy stuff... or if its more just being extremely egotistic and "being your own god" I just want to understand a satanists view so i dont want religious nuts coming in here telling me to burn her or do anything like that becasue i love her but im just worried...

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#2 pvtdonut54
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Show her a Bible, if she melts dump her.

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#3 AAllxxjjnn
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No, it's not at all like what is portrayed on TV. Why don't you ask her what it is about?
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#4 cousin_eddy
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satanism is not how it is portrayed in popular society and if she acts like that in any way then she is no real satanist. I have met real satanists and some of them are quite normal people...it isn't the "witch and demon sacrifice nightmare" that rightwing christians and pop culture want you to beleive it is..it is quite a normal religion..with some dark aspects in it. But hey all religions have their dark sides.
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#5 Lto_thaG
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Love is unconditional,my friend.
Put it to the test.

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#6 FragStains
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Psst....you have a girlfriend who is an admitted Satanist...why not start by asking her about it?
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#7 chugachea
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No, it's not at all like what is portrayed on TV. Why don't you ask her what it is about?AAllxxjjnn
I tried =( she says that it complicated, but im mostly worried because she used to cut but she got over it like 4 years ago... i just dont want her to be doing anything crazy...
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#8 spazzx625
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Everyone I've ever known that calls themself a Satanist is purely in it for the attention/shock value.
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#9 Second_Rook
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No, it ain't about that. Take a gander at the satanic bible and you'll see that it's pretty much about being a self-serving ass.
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#10 ShadowofTulkas
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I have no idea. Sort of creepy if you ask me.....but that is her belief so if you're cool with it then it's all good.
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#11 deactivated-60678a6f9e4d4
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If she's a satanist, she's probably an idiot.

I bet it gets interesting in the bedroom.

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#12 Dystopian-X
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Nothing wrong with being a santanist, having her sacrifice you to the spitrit of christmas is that bad?

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Everyone I've ever known that calls themself a Satanist is purely in it for the attention/shock value.spazzx625

True.

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#14 cousin_eddy
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Everyone I've ever known that calls themself a Satanist is purely in it for the attention/shock value.spazzx625
and that is sadly true. One of the sins in the satanic bible is stupidity...and that reigns so true in our society for kids who attempt to be satanist and how it is portrayed in our society.
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"being your own God" has got nothing to do with satanism, please read some ancient philosphy before making wild assumptions.

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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]No, it's not at all like what is portrayed on TV. Why don't you ask her what it is about?chugachea
I tried =( she says that it complicated, but im mostly worried because she used to cut but she got over it like 4 years ago... i just dont want her to be doing anything crazy...

Are you sure she is ACTUALLY a satanist, if she was, she'd be able to explain what it's all about....
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No, it ain't about that. Take a gander at the satanic bible and you'll see that it's pretty much about being a self-serving ass. Second_Rook

well the vast majority of the moral and ethical implications of satanism mirror christianity quite closely, except they replace worshipping god with worshipping yourself. So if the satanic bible is about being a self serving ass, then any form of christianity is about being a subservient ass.

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#18 cousin_eddy
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[QUOTE="Second_Rook"]No, it ain't about that. Take a gander at the satanic bible and you'll see that it's pretty much about being a self-serving ass. z4twenny

well the vast majority of the moral and ethical implications of satanism mirror christianity quite closely, except they replace worshipping god with worshipping yourself. So if the satanic bible is about being a self serving ass, then any form of christianity is about being a subservient ass.

well put friend, very well put.
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#19 MgamerBD
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Grab holy water and spray it on her while saying "The power of Christ compels you, The power of Christ compels you!" If she survives the excorcism then continue dating her.
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]No, it's not at all like what is portrayed on TV. Why don't you ask her what it is about?chugachea
I tried =( she says that it complicated, but im mostly worried because she used to cut but she got over it like 4 years ago... i just dont want her to be doing anything crazy...

Cuts herself and proclaims to be a satanist but can't explain it in the least...
Everyone I've ever known that calls themself a Satanist is purely in it for the attention/shock value.spazzx625
That makes this true.

Get out while you still can.

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#21 cousin_eddy
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the fact that she cuts herself proves that she is no real satanist, call her out on it.
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#22 deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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Question: how old is she? if in her later teens, then theyre all satanists -.- weather they know it or now.

Its likely not what you think it is, satanism is NOT like it is portrayied in the media, In truth satanism is more like existentialism (spelling), then an actural religion, so I doubt it as bad as you think, as someone said, she likely thinks she is, because of the shock value, or because she wants to be different.

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Wow, that must be an interesting girl :o

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#24 AustXilo
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I've never heard of a religion that won't explain their belief system to a willing listener. Man, that sounds like a great way to attract followers.

"What do you practice?"

"I don't know..."

"Well, what are your beliefs?"

"Uhh... I don't know?"

"So what you're saying here is..."

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[QUOTE="Second_Rook"]No, it ain't about that. Take a gander at the satanic bible and you'll see that it's pretty much about being a self-serving ass. z4twenny

well the vast majority of the moral and ethical implications of satanism mirror christianity quite closely, except they replace worshipping god with worshipping yourself. So if the satanic bible is about being a self serving ass, then any form of christianity is about being a subservient ass.

Well, you were the one that brought up christianity, not me. But I must say that you are totally wrong. Self-indulgence and eye for an eye were not taught by Christ. It was self-sacrifice and turn the other cheek. How this equates to mirroring is beyond me.
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#26 Mercenary848
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Does she worship the devil or is she just an atheist with her own morals.

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#27 z4twenny
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the fact that she cuts herself proves that she is no real satanist, call her out on it.cousin_eddy

+1

although, you can claim a religions beliefs but not practice them (i'm a non practicing buddhist for example)

but yeah, satanism definitely doesn't encourage harming yourself or others. in fact it's very pagan in its beliefs of "do whatever you want as long as you don't harm yourself or others"

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#28 z4twenny
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[QUOTE="z4twenny"]

[QUOTE="Second_Rook"]No, it ain't about that. Take a gander at the satanic bible and you'll see that it's pretty much about being a self-serving ass. Second_Rook

well the vast majority of the moral and ethical implications of satanism mirror christianity quite closely, except they replace worshipping god with worshipping yourself. So if the satanic bible is about being a self serving ass, then any form of christianity is about being a subservient ass.

Well, you were the one that brought up christianity, not me. But I must say that you are totally wrong. Self-indulgence and eye for an eye were not taught by Christ. It was self-sacrifice and turn the other cheek. How this equates to mirroring is beyond me.

where you were taught that modern day satanism encouraged self indulgence and eye for an eye is beyond me.

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#29 lilasianwonder
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Go to one of her little get-togethers with other satanists and see whats up.

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#30 ParonoiaAgent
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If she's a satanist, she's probably an idiot.

I bet it gets interesting in the bedroom.

bangell99

Isn't that crap that conservatives(the real idiots) say?

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#31 z4twenny
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[QUOTE="bangell99"]

If she's a satanist, she's probably an idiot.

I bet it gets interesting in the bedroom.

ParonoiaAgent

Isn't that crap that conservatives(the real idiots) say?

read Second_rooks response up top and thats what conservatives usually say.

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[QUOTE="cousin_eddy"]the fact that she cuts herself proves that she is no real satanist, call her out on it.z4twenny

+1

although, you can claim a religions beliefs but not practice them (i'm a non practicing buddhist for example)

but yeah, satanism definitely doesn't encourage harming yourself or others. in fact it's very pagan in its beliefs of "do whatever you want as long as you don't harm yourself or others"

Guys, she doesn't cut herself. The man specifically said that she hasn't done it in four years.

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#33 tofu-lion91
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I bet it gets interesting in the bedroom.bangell99
I'll agree with this :P It's nice that you haven't over reacted about it, as I know a lot of people would
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#34 deactivated-5c8e4e07d5510
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Why don't you ask her instead? Seems her information would be more reliable than ours would be if she truly is a satanist.

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#35 ParonoiaAgent
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[QUOTE="ParonoiaAgent"]

[QUOTE="bangell99"]

If she's a satanist, she's probably an idiot.

I bet it gets interesting in the bedroom.

z4twenny

Isn't that crap that conservatives(the real idiots) say?

read Second_rooks response up top and thats what conservatives usually say.

That is (sadly) true

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#36 Second_Rook
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where you were taught that modern day satanism encouraged self indulgence and eye for an eye is beyond me.

z4twenny

Anton Lavey himself in the book of lucifer. Or is he no longer the figurehead of modern satanism? If not then I admit that I don't know what I'm talking about.

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[QUOTE="bangell99"]

If she's a satanist, she's probably an idiot.

I bet it gets interesting in the bedroom.

ParonoiaAgent

Isn't that crap that conservatives(the real idiots) say?

Are you saying that conservates are idiots for generalizing? :?

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#38 Saturos3091
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Real Satanism is more along the lines of individualism (hence why it's called Satanism, as christianity deals with altruism). It has to deal with doing what you believe is right in any given situation, most of all for yourself first and foremost. It also advocates revenge, as it is part of our inherent nature. If someone hits you in anger, instead of turning the other cheek you are supposed to hit back twice as hard. It really is just a very down to earth lifesty1e with some "darker" aspects.

Stupidity is considered a sin, so disobeying the law to get what you want isn't advocated, as spending jail time for a quick benefit would be a stupid move.

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There's the br00tal hot topic "satanist" and then there's the several satanist religions (Luciferianism and LaVeyan Satanism being the more common). It's far from the chicken sacrifices and virgins' blood drinking that is often, and wrongly, associated with satanism. I find LaVeyan Satanism to have some very interesting views.
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[QUOTE="z4twenny"]where you were taught that modern day satanism encouraged self indulgence and eye for an eye is beyond me.

Second_Rook

Anton Lavey himself in the book of lucifer. Or is he no longer the figurehead of modern satanism? If not then I admit that I don't know what I'm talking about.

It's funny that you mention that actually. Leveyan satanism its somewhat eschewed by more modern theistic satanists even though it is the basis for the current church of satan. the ideals of self indulgence and eye for an eye is really taken out of context by most people. all that really suggests is that you should enjoy life to its fullest (as opposed to self deprivation) and to stick up for yourself and not let people take advantage of you. most satanists will tell you that LeVeyan satanism does encourage somewhat self destructive habits that the church rarely if ever encourages or endorses any longer and they directly contradict the dogmatic pursuit of knowledge. So while in the past those may have been the standards, they aren't considered much any more.

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#41 chugachea
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Well thanks guys! youve really made me feel better about this =D

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#42 markop2003
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Theistic satanism or atheistic satanist? Theistic = Belief in Lucifer as your master Atheistic = there is no 'god', god is just the being who has most control in your life which is obviously yourself The atheistic way is how a lot of people act anyway, personally i find the atheistic Satanist way of life much more applicable then any other religion, it's basically indulge in life as long as you don't hurt anything else in the process.
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Everyone I've ever known that calls themself a Satanist is purely in it for the attention/shock value.spazzx625
Agreed. I've been interested in many religions and try to read up on them. Every discussion I've had with a satanist seems to be based on popular culture portrayals, with little to no factual information.
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#44 _en1gma_
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talk to her about it and you'll find out. good luck. :)

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[QUOTE="spazzx625"]Everyone I've ever known that calls themself a Satanist is purely in it for the attention/shock value.Eddie5vs1
Agreed. I've been interested in many religions and try to read up on them. Every discussion I've had with a satanist seems to be based on popular culture portrayals, with little to no factual information.

That's why I don't like telling people that I advocate a lot of (real) Satanism. They think it's for shock value or that I actually worship Satan. :(
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#46 Chris_Williams
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meh, i don't really care for people's religion but she's a satanist?.... good luck

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That's hawt.
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[QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"][QUOTE="spazzx625"]Everyone I've ever known that calls themself a Satanist is purely in it for the attention/shock value.Saturos3091
Agreed. I've been interested in many religions and try to read up on them. Every discussion I've had with a satanist seems to be based on popular culture portrayals, with little to no factual information.

That's why I don't like telling people that I advocate a lot of (real) Satanism. They think it's for shock value or that I actually worship Satan. :(

Yeah, that's understandable. What part of Satanism do you advocate?
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Theistic satanism or atheistic satanist? Theistic = Belief in Lucifer as your master Atheistic = there is no 'god', god is just the being who has most control in your life which is obviously yourself The atheistic way is how a lot of people act anyway, personally i find the atheistic Satanist way of life much more applicable then any other religion, it's basically indulge in life as long as you don't hurt anything else in the process.markop2003

+1

theistic satanism is a grey one too :P because its all on interpretation. theistic satanism is more so a belief that satan is a being who imparts knowledge and that knowledge is power. so in a round about way satan = master, but more so because of the implication that it is the source of knowledge.

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#50 fletch627
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Looks like you got yourself a winner... ROFLMAO! A girl that cuts herself and praises the devil. Why the hell would you want to be around her?