My guitar teacher says Jack White is a OK guitarist

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#1 Wolfetan
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Thoughts?

Hes been playing music for around 30 years (my teacher, not white) and yesterday when we were playing he said he wasnt that great. I was kind of shocked since I see nothing but love for him, and I personally think is a great guitarist (see: Any The Raconteurs song or Treat Me Like Your Mother, Or Icky Thump, or Seven Nation Army)

Note: he only mentioned him has a guitarist, not a song writer, pianist, or singer, or drummer.

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#2 MrSelf-Destruct
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Honestly, the dudes not skill, but there are so many others that put him to shame. Your teacher probably just has high standards. Especially since he's been playing for so long himself.
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Are you telling me he had an opinion? Unacceptable! In this day an age to.......
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#4 Wolfetan
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Are you telling me he had an opinion? Unacceptable! In this day an age to.......Wilfred_Owen
Im not against it, but like I said everyone says hes amazing. Everyone.
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#5 TheMightyHoov
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How dare he think differently!

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#6 Wolfetan
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Not once did I state he was wrong... just wondering if anyone can back up either statements (hes good or bad)?

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#7 hooeyberg
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Jack White is a good guitarist and a good songwriter. nothing more nothing less. However there are plenty of of guitarists who put him to shame in skill. When we live in a world with steve vai's, Jason Becker's and Marty Friedman's he just doesnt stand out as a guitarist.

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#8 Lockedge
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There are a lot of guitarists that could probably play White into the dirt. However, I doubt most of those guitarists are close to White's level at songwriting.
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#9 muller39
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Jack White is a great musician. I am curious to see what does next.

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#10 Wolfetan
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Jack White is a great musician. I am curious to see what does next.

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Hopefully he goes back to Dead Weather, but most importantly the Raconteurs. He is working on something called Rome. But no one knows anything more than that.
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#11 MrSelf-Destruct
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[QUOTE="Wolfetan"][QUOTE="muller39"]

Jack White is a great musician. I am curious to see what does next.

Hopefully he goes back to Dead Weather, but most importantly the Raconteurs. He is working on something called Rome. But no one knows anything more than that.

Yeah... too many side jobs already. I like DW and the Raconteurs, but I wish he'd stick with those two and not branch out all over the place. Les Claypool did that and I just completely lost track of the crazy bass turd.
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#12 Wolfetan
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[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"][QUOTE="Wolfetan"][QUOTE="muller39"]

Jack White is a great musician. I am curious to see what does next.

Hopefully he goes back to Dead Weather, but most importantly the Raconteurs. He is working on something called Rome. But no one knows anything more than that.

Yeah... too many side jobs already. I like DW and the Raconteurs, but I wish he'd stick with those two and not branch out all over the place. Les Claypool did that and I just completely lost track of the crazy bass turd.

I dont mind has long has we dont see a qualty dip. Ive listened to all his stuff (even the upholsterers some crazy random band with Jack White and a family friend. only a EP made and I love it)
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#13 Konekomaru
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There are plenty of guitarists that are far more skilled. He's extremely creative though, which is much more important in songwriting.

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#14 MrGeezer
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Thoughts?

Hes been playing music for around 30 years (my teacher, not white) and yesterday when we were playing he said he wasnt that great. I was kind of shocked since I see nothing but love for him, and I personally think is a great guitarist (see: Any The Raconteurs song or Treat Me Like Your Mother, Or Icky Thump, or Seven Nation Army)

Note: he only mentioned him has a guitarist, not a song writer, pianist, or singer, or drummer.

Wolfetan

What's to think? He gave his opinion on Jack White's guitar-playing skills. You can absolutely have a different opinion, but that doesn't really have anything to do with anything.

So...let me summarize what I believe is the problem: You think that Jack White is an excellent guitarist, but your teacher thinks that Jack White is merely an "okay" guitarist. And this bothers you because now you feel like a 30-year-long guitarist has totally invalidated your opinions as crap. Either that, or you KNOW that he's full of crap when he/she says that Jack White is merely "okay", and you are therefore starting to question if that person is qualified to actually be in a position to teach you.

Have I at least come close to identifying the "problem"? Is it actually the case that the "problem" is either the fact that you feel like your teacher just insulted your personal taste in music, OR that you just determined that your teacher doesn't know **** about music?

If either of those basicallysums up the "problem", then my advice is for you to just get thicker skin. You might think he's absolutely 100% wrong on that opinion. But START by not seeing it as a personal attack, and START by recognizing that being wrong on this one particular thing doesn't make your teacher and idiot. Start out that way, even if you KNOW that Jack White is the best guitarist who ever lived.

And once you've come to terms with that, then you can maybe debate with him about whether or not Jack White is an exceptional guitarist. But that comes secondary to simply getting thicker skin. If you start doing any kind of art, just about the FIRST thing you're gonna hear is that you don't know ****, and that you wouldn't know quality if it walked up to you and kicked you in the face. For the moment, let's suppose that your teacher DID simply make that comment because he thought his students would take it as a personal insult to their artistic sensibilities. Even if he DID totally and deliberately do that ****, you've gotta learn to NOT be bothered by that kind of ****. Because that's gonna happen if you go into the arts. You ARE going to get emotionally kicked, punched, and beaten. But you're gonna have to ****ing deal with it. Take it personally if that gives you a better appreciation of music. DON'T take it personally if you think that your teacher is just a "troll". And once you've become comfortable with that, then you can roll with the punches and talk about art on a more meaningful level. But you HAVE to go beyond that.

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#15 heysharpshooter
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He plays the guitar about as well as I cook... which is to say, he's capable of playing the guitar, but a virtiuoso, he is not...

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#16 Guybrush_3
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Jack White's area of expertise is the blues. He can't shred like some other guitar players out there, but there aren't that many that can play blues like he can.

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#17 jrhawk42
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rant on opinions

It really irks me when people say everybody is entitled to an opinion... no you're not. In todays society it seems like if some one has a well communicated, researched, and reasonble opinion their voice is drowned out by a bunch of knuckle draggers w/ a knee jerk reaction. It also irks me that people try to use title alone to weigh their opinion heavier than others w/out any evidence to back it up. The merit of an opinion should be weighed by it's own terms not by the terms of the person who spoke them.

/rant on opinions

anyway I don't give a eff about skill. Plenty of skilled guitarist sound horrible. Just cause a song is hard to play doesn't mean it sounds good. Music is art, and just because art is simple doesn't mean it's not beautiful. Jack white to me is often hit or miss. Some of his riffs really digg deeply, and get my blood pumping while others annoy me like a fly buzzing in my ear.

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#18 SkyWard20
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Are you telling me he had an opinion? Unacceptable! In this day an age to.......Wilfred_Owen
... be allowed to disagree or discredit it?

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#19 punkpunker
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does your teacher likes jazz? if he does he has high standards.

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#20 no_more_fayth
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Technical skill doesn't mean it sounds good.

Having said that, he does indeed have a skill in blues.

I love how he plays guitar, and I usually don't care.

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#21 jonnymcl2k
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What he lacks in technical skill, he makes up for in songwriting and originality that someone like Joe Satriani or Steve Vai doesn't have.