My major complaint about The Dark Knight (and possibly TDKR)

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#1 MysticMikeMan
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Gotham City. In Batman Begins, it was Gotham City. It was gritty. It was dirty. There seemed to be an abundance of dark, creepy places. In TDK, however, it seems like your typical generic city. Its like they got lazy and said, **** it, Gotham IS Chicago." In Batman Begins, it was its own city. It was advanced, but dirty to the core. You had the Wayne Towers, and you had the monorail system which played a MAJOR part in the story, but it didn't even exist in TDK. Like...I do think Batman Begins is overall a better movie than The Dark Knight, but this is just my major gripe with it. Gotham isn't Gotham in TDK. Its just another city that any random superhero could come into and do the same thing. Its not Gotham.

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get a life
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Yeah, that was always one of my gripes, even after my initial viewing.
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Now it is going to be Pittsburg, which really is worse than the Narrows :P My only gripe from TDK was how the bat pod's wheels somehow went over their sides end over end during one or two parts of it's sequence.
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#5 MysticMikeMan
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Yeah, that was always one of my gripes, even after my initial viewing.sammyjenkis898
I like your avy. Toph is adorable lol
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get a lifehippiesanta
This but also I think the aesthetic change was to show how Batman had really cleaned up the city, hence why the criminals were running scared of him. Notice how the films visuals grow bleaker as things get worse - the whole darkest before the dawn thing I guess.
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[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]get a lifebiggest_loser
This but also I think the aesthetic change was to show how Batman had really cleaned up the city, hence why the criminals were running scared of him. Notice how the films visuals grow bleaker as things get worse - the whole darkest before the dawn thing I guess.

Hippie ****** can go **** himself. And considering TDK, in the movie universe, is set just 9 months after Batman Begins, I highly doubt thats the case.

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[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]Yeah, that was always one of my gripes, even after my initial viewing.MysticMikeMan
I like your avy. Toph is adorable lol

 Indeed she is.
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[QUOTE="biggest_loser"][QUOTE="hippiesanta"]get a lifeMysticMikeMan

This but also I think the aesthetic change was to show how Batman had really cleaned up the city, hence why the criminals were running scared of him. Notice how the films visuals grow bleaker as things get worse - the whole darkest before the dawn thing I guess.

Hippie ****** can go **** himself. And considering TDK, in the movie universe, is set just 9 months after Batman Begins, I highly doubt thats the case.

Well why? Even the Joker says to the crooks 'what happened?' and talks about how they're scared now. I think its a very plausible reason for the change.
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[QUOTE="MysticMikeMan"]

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"] This but also I think the aesthetic change was to show how Batman had really cleaned up the city, hence why the criminals were running scared of him. Notice how the films visuals grow bleaker as things get worse - the whole darkest before the dawn thing I guess. biggest_loser

Hippie ****** can go **** himself. And considering TDK, in the movie universe, is set just 9 months after Batman Begins, I highly doubt thats the case.

Well why? Even the Joker says to the crooks 'what happened?' and talks about how they're scared now. I think its a very plausible reason for the change.

The movie is supposed to be a realistic take on Batman, correct? Is it safe to say that everything else about the city should be taken realistically? You're not going to completely clean up crime in 9 months time and make every street and town look shiny and new even if you have a Batman. It doesn't explain the lack of a monorail, either. Just because there's a couple of small time criminals running around scared of Batman (IN THE DAY, I MIGHT ADD), doesn't mean the entire disgusting part of Gotham is all of a sudden gone. It should be represented. That is where Batman THRIVES.

BTW, thanks for taking this somewhat seriously lol. I love arguing about these goddamn movies.

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[QUOTE="biggest_loser"][QUOTE="MysticMikeMan"] Hippie ****** can go **** himself. And considering TDK, in the movie universe, is set just 9 months after Batman Begins, I highly doubt thats the case.

MysticMikeMan

Well why? Even the Joker says to the crooks 'what happened?' and talks about how they're scared now. I think its a very plausible reason for the change.

The movie is supposed to be a realistic take on Batman, correct? Is it safe to say that everything else about the city should be taken realistically? You're not going to completely clean up crime in 9 months time and make every street and town look shiny and new even if you have a Batman. It doesn't explain the lack of a monorail, either. Just because there's a couple of small time criminals running around scared of Batman (IN THE DAY, I MIGHT ADD), doesn't mean the entire disgusting part of Gotham is all of a sudden gone. It should be represented. That is where Batman THRIVES.

BTW, thanks for taking this somewhat seriously lol. I love arguing about these goddamn movies.

Wasn't the monorail destroyed in the other movie? Also, Batman doesn't have to clean up the city in 9 months himself. He uses fear and spreads that through the other criminals. If he takes down a few, as he did in BB, others take notice and become too scared to go out. He has no boundaries.