My personal view on racism in the world.

I was on the Resident Evil 5 board and looking at the first page prompted me to make this topic. As I'm sure many of you have seen, Resident Evil 5 takes place in Africa or someplace similar (the othermain idea is Haiti). Anyways, the zombies/infected people you fight (at least in the trailer) were black, of course, considering the locale. As a sidenote, RE4 btw took place in Spain and they were all Spanish. Now, the entire RE5 board is cluttered with topics about people claiming it's racist. of the 30 pages of topics, 7 full pages relate to racism in the game. This is absolutely absurd.

I am not a racist. I was raised that color means nothing, and it really doesn't, unless you make it that way. A black man can do anything just as well as an Indian man, and vice versa. You don't need to be Asian to be smart. Now, back to the topic of RE5, the part I find unbelievable about the whole situation is that there have been tons of games before this where white zombies were killed, and as noted before, even RE4 featured Spanish zombies. Why is it suddenly racist when you kill black zombies? If he was killing them simply because they were black, yes, that would be racist, but he's killing them because they are f'ing zombies O_O. How can that be construed as racist? Not to mention it's made by an ASIAN game developer, Capcom. Why would (as many have so "aptly" put it) Capcom try to "put the black man down under the white man", being an ASIAN game developer? Maybe the fact that the game takes place in like Africa or Haiti has something todo with the zombies being black...hmmm...honestly, the world needs to grow up.

I specifically read one post that simply stated "In video games, black people should be able to kill white people but white people shouldn't be able to kill black people." Oh my god. ThisIS moreracist than anything I have heard in a while. I can't stand when people make color an issue, I despise it. Sitting inschool the kid next to me gets in trouble because he got caught cheating, claims it's because he's black, the teacher drops the charge and lets him go. The race card needs to disappear entirely. The teacher didn't single him out because he was black, even if that's what he'd like her to believe, she did it because she sawhe had the answerswritten on his hand.Black people aren't better than any other race, and no other races are better than black people, so people need to loosen up and pull the sticks out of their asses and get over it.

Every time I hear a complaint about RE5 being racist, or someone pulling the race card I immediately look down on that person. It's not by choice, it's just that I realize they aren't mature enough to join the real world with the rest of us and grow up. I frankly don't give adamn ifpeople of African descentwereenslaved hundreds of years ago. It was hundreds of years ago.Hundreds of years ago we had no cars, no television, no phones, and things have changed.What happenedthat far in the past that no one left alive was there should have no relevance on the present, as the present should have no relevance on the future. Besides,black people weren't the only race enslaved, pretty much every race has been enslaved at one point or another in history, why do blackpeople get specialtreatment? Yes, it was terrible it happened, but it was also terrible for every other race too.Back then means nothing. I'm fully expected to be called a racist by some for posting this, but hopefully some will see my side of things and agree.Sure, some racism in life is unavoidable, but by making a bigger issue of it (complaining about it in a frigginvideo game for example)you are simply being racist.

I specifically read one post that simply stated "In video games, black people should be able to kill white people but white people shouldn't be able to kill black people." Oh my god. ThisIS moreracist than anything I have heard in a while. I can't stand when people make color an issue, I despise it. Sitting inschool the kid next to me gets in trouble because he got caught cheating, claims it's because he's black, the teacher drops the charge and lets him go. The race card needs to disappear entirely. The teacher didn't single him out because he was black, even if that's what he'd like her to believe, she did it because she sawhe had the answerswritten on his hand.Black people aren't better than any other race, and no other races are better than black people, so people need to loosen up and pull the sticks out of their asses and get over it.

mynameisdumb

I agree. so much, in fact, that I'll be going to the RE5 boards.

I made this as a joke after watching the trailer.

The world is filled with racism. There's always that one person that hates a particular race just because of one encounter... Either I ignore it, or I start getting pissed off... The game isn't racist though. The setting is Africa. What are you going to kill there? Hmmm, maybe I'll find some people from South America, or Canada, or USA, or even European people!

People are idiots, they just need someone to smack them in the face sooo hard. Then, yell at them for being idiots.

I agree.

*rant wall*

mynameisdumb

Yes, I agree.

I was on the Resident Evil 5 board and looking at the first page prompted me to make this topic. As I'm sure many of you have seen, Resident Evil 5 takes place in Africa or someplace similar (the othermain idea is Haiti). Anyways, the zombies/infected people you fight (at least in the trailer) were black, of course, considering the locale. As a sidenote, RE4 btw took place in Spain and they were all Spanish. Now, the entire RE5 board is cluttered with topics about people claiming it's racist. of the 30 pages of topics, 7 full pages relate to racism in the game. This is absolutely absurd.

I am not a racist. I was raised that color means nothing, and it really doesn't, unless you make it that way. A black man can do anything just as well as an Indian man, and vice versa. You don't need to be Asian to be smart. Now, back to the topic of RE5, the part I find unbelievable about the whole situation is that there have been tons of games before this where white zombies were killed, and as noted before, even RE4 featured Spanish zombies. Why is it suddenly racist when you kill black zombies? If he was killing them simply because they were black, yes, that would be racist, but he's killing them because they are f'ing zombies O_O. How can that be construed as racist? Not to mention it's made by an ASIAN game developer, Capcom. Why would (as many have so "aptly" put it) Capcom try to "put the black man down under the white man", being an ASIAN game developer? Maybe the fact that the game takes place in like Africa or Haiti has something todo with the zombies being black...hmmm...honestly, the world needs to grow up.

I specifically read one post that simply stated "In video games, black people should be able to kill white people but white people shouldn't be able to kill black people." Oh my god. ThisIS moreracist than anything I have heard in a while. I can't stand when people make color an issue, I despise it. Sitting inschool the kid next to me gets in trouble because he got caught cheating, claims it's because he's black, the teacher drops the charge and lets him go. The race card needs to disappear entirely. The teacher didn't single him out because he was black, even if that's what he'd like her to believe, she did it because she sawhe had the answerswritten on his hand.Black people aren't better than any other race, and no other races are better than black people, so people need to loosen up and pull the sticks out of their asses and get over it.

Every time I hear a complaint about RE5 being racist, or someone pulling the race card I immediately look down on that person. It's not by choice, it's just that I realize they aren't mature enough to join the real world with the rest of us and grow up. I frankly don't give adamn ifpeople of African descentwereenslaved hundreds of years ago. It was hundreds of years ago.Hundreds of years ago we had no cars, no television, no phones, and things have changed.What happenedthat far in the past that no one left alive was there should have no relevance on the present, as the present should have no relevance on the future. Besides,black people weren't the only race enslaved, pretty much every race has been enslaved at one point or another in history, why do blackpeople get specialtreatment? Yes, it was terrible it happened, but it was also terrible for every other race too.Back then means nothing. I'm fully expected to be called a racist by some for posting this, but hopefully some will see my side of things and agree.Sure, some racism in life is unavoidable, but by making a bigger issue of it (complaining about it in a frigginvideo game for example)you are simply being racist.

mynameisdumb

Well, I don't really know much of anything about the game, so I can't comment too much about it. However, from what I have read, I don't think it's probably racist.

However, and keep this in mind that it's just hypothetical, if I wanted to make a bigoted game about, let's say...killing catholics, it would make perfect sense to set the game in the Vatican. The question could loom of whether or not I'm killing Catholics because the game is set in the vatican, or if I chose the setting for the specific purpose of letting people kill Catholics.

However, I'm aware that every game must have a setting, I don't see anything definitively racist, and I'm willing to give the developers the benefit of the doubt. So, based on the little that I know about this, I will agree that people are probably accusing Capcom of racism where there is none.

However, that is NOT to say setting cannot be used in the service of racism. I just don't think that's happening in this case.

Also, even though slavery ended a long time ago, Rosa Parks died pretty recently. If not for the fact that he was murdered, Martin Luther King very well could still be alive today. There might not be any black americans alive today who were slaves, but there are most DEFINITELY a LOT of blacks still living today who personally experienced the direct effects of systematic racism at all levels of the law. Do NOT act like the abolition of slavery suddenly put an end to blacks being treated as third class citizens in a social AND LEGAL sense just because of their skin color, and do NOT pretend like no one here today actually had to PERSONALLY suffer through such injustices.

Also, even though slavery ended a long time ago, Rosa Parks died pretty recently. If not for the fact that he was murdered, Martin Luther King very well could still be alive today. There might not be any black americans alive today who were slaves, but there are most DEFINITELY a LOT of blacks still living today who personally experienced the direct effects of systematic racism at all levels of the law. Do NOT act like the abolition of slavery suddenly put an end to blacks being treated as third class citizens in a social AND LEGAL sense just because of their skin color, and do NOT pretend like no one here today actually had to PERSONALLY suffer through such injustices.

MrGeezer

Sorry if I made myself unclear, by all means I am not attempting to make the claim that racism doesn't exist and that people of different colors aren't EVER prejudiced against. Specifically I was using that to make the point that you can't really use the race card as an excuse in situations that have nothing to do with race (like the example I used of the kid in my class who got caught cheating). I am definitely not saying thatno one today has had to suffer injustices, as I am worldly enough to know that's totally false.

Well, I don't really know much of anything about the game, so I can't comment too much about it. However, from what I have read, I don't think it's probably racist.

However, and keep this in mind that it's just hypothetical, if I wanted to make a bigoted game about, let's say...killing catholics, it would make perfect sense to set the game in the Vatican. The question could loom of whether or not I'm killing Catholics because the game is set in the vatican, or if I chose the setting for the specific purpose of letting people kill Catholics.

However, I'm aware that every game must have a setting, I don't see anything definitively racist, and I'm willing to give the developers the benefit of the doubt. So, based on the little that I know about this, I will agree that people are probably accusing Capcom of racism where there is none.

However, that is NOT to say setting cannot be used in the service of racism. I just don't think that's happening in this case.

Also, even though slavery ended a long time ago, Rosa Parks died pretty recently. If not for the fact that he was murdered, Martin Luther King very well could still be alive today. There might not be any black americans alive today who were slaves, but there are most DEFINITELY a LOT of blacks still living today who personally experienced the direct effects of systematic racism at all levels of the law. Do NOT act like the abolition of slavery suddenly put an end to blacks being treated as third class citizens in a social AND LEGAL sense just because of their skin color, and do NOT pretend like no one here today actually had to PERSONALLY suffer through such injustices.

MrGeezer

It doesn't mean theyshould hold a grudge and advocate reverse racism, like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson (Irefuse grace them with the title of "Reverend.") All that does is hinder progress, which is what almost allof the racism accusations do.

In GTA you play as a black man and you can shoot at white people. Is that racist too??

And that was not a racist comment, I'm just saying, in some things its the other way around and thats not racist :?

jango7192

Exactly, it's always been a double standard.

it's not really the world that's racist against black people.

just the people of the united states.

i don't think the japanese, chinese, indian, filipino, etc. etc. have anything against black people. it's just in the USA.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

Well, I don't really know much of anything about the game, so I can't comment too much about it. However, from what I have read, I don't think it's probably racist.

However, and keep this in mind that it's just hypothetical, if I wanted to make a bigoted game about, let's say...killing catholics, it would make perfect sense to set the game in the Vatican. The question could loom of whether or not I'm killing Catholics because the game is set in the vatican, or if I chose the setting for the specific purpose of letting people kill Catholics.

However, I'm aware that every game must have a setting, I don't see anything definitively racist, and I'm willing to give the developers the benefit of the doubt. So, based on the little that I know about this, I will agree that people are probably accusing Capcom of racism where there is none.

However, that is NOT to say setting cannot be used in the service of racism. I just don't think that's happening in this case.

Also, even though slavery ended a long time ago, Rosa Parks died pretty recently. If not for the fact that he was murdered, Martin Luther King very well could still be alive today. There might not be any black americans alive today who were slaves, but there are most DEFINITELY a LOT of blacks still living today who personally experienced the direct effects of systematic racism at all levels of the law. Do NOT act like the abolition of slavery suddenly put an end to blacks being treated as third class citizens in a social AND LEGAL sense just because of their skin color, and do NOT pretend like no one here today actually had to PERSONALLY suffer through such injustices.

1ND1FF3R3NT

It doesn't mean theyshould hold a grudge and advocate reverse racism, like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson (Irefuse grace them with the title of "Reverend.") All that does is hinder progress, which is what almost allof the racism accusations do.

These are two people and they hardly speak for the whole race. They sure as hell don't speak for me. At least they won't until they find some real issues within our OWN community before holding everyone else accountable for stupid ( racist is a stretch ) things they say and do.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

Also, even though slavery ended a long time ago, Rosa Parks died pretty recently. If not for the fact that he was murdered, Martin Luther King very well could still be alive today. There might not be any black americans alive today who were slaves, but there are most DEFINITELY a LOT of blacks still living today who personally experienced the direct effects of systematic racism at all levels of the law. Do NOT act like the abolition of slavery suddenly put an end to blacks being treated as third class citizens in a social AND LEGAL sense just because of their skin color, and do NOT pretend like no one here today actually had to PERSONALLY suffer through such injustices.

mynameisdumb

Sorry if I made myself unclear, by all means I am not attempting to make the claim that racism doesn't exist and that people of different colors aren't EVER prejudiced against. Specifically I was using that to make the point that you can't really use the race card as an excuse in situations that have nothing to do with race (like the example I used of the kid in my class who got caught cheating). I am definitely not saying thatno one today has had to suffer injustices, as I am worldly enough to know that's totally false.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

Also, even though slavery ended a long time ago, Rosa Parks died pretty recently. If not for the fact that he was murdered, Martin Luther King very well could still be alive today. There might not be any black americans alive today who were slaves, but there are most DEFINITELY a LOT of blacks still living today who personally experienced the direct effects of systematic racism at all levels of the law. Do NOT act like the abolition of slavery suddenly put an end to blacks being treated as third class citizens in a social AND LEGAL sense just because of their skin color, and do NOT pretend like no one here today actually had to PERSONALLY suffer through such injustices.

mynameisdumb

Sorry if I made myself unclear, by all means I am not attempting to make the claim that racism doesn't exist and that people of different colors aren't EVER prejudiced against. Specifically I was using that to make the point that you can't really use the race card as an excuse in situations that have nothing to do with race (like the example I used of the kid in my class who got caught cheating). I am definitely not saying thatno one today has had to suffer injustices, as I am worldly enough to know that's totally false.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

Well, I don't really know much of anything about the game, so I can't comment too much about it. However, from what I have read, I don't think it's probably racist.

However, and keep this in mind that it's just hypothetical, if I wanted to make a bigoted game about, let's say...killing catholics, it would make perfect sense to set the game in the Vatican. The question could loom of whether or not I'm killing Catholics because the game is set in the vatican, or if I chose the setting for the specific purpose of letting people kill Catholics.

However, I'm aware that every game must have a setting, I don't see anything definitively racist, and I'm willing to give the developers the benefit of the doubt. So, based on the little that I know about this, I will agree that people are probably accusing Capcom of racism where there is none.

However, that is NOT to say setting cannot be used in the service of racism. I just don't think that's happening in this case.

Also, even though slavery ended a long time ago, Rosa Parks died pretty recently. If not for the fact that he was murdered, Martin Luther King very well could still be alive today. There might not be any black americans alive today who were slaves, but there are most DEFINITELY a LOT of blacks still living today who personally experienced the direct effects of systematic racism at all levels of the law. Do NOT act like the abolition of slavery suddenly put an end to blacks being treated as third class citizens in a social AND LEGAL sense just because of their skin color, and do NOT pretend like no one here today actually had to PERSONALLY suffer through such injustices.

1ND1FF3R3NT

It doesn't mean theyshould hold a grudge and advocate reverse racism, like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson (Irefuse grace them with the title of "Reverend.") All that does is hinder progress, which is what almost allof the racism accusations do.

it's not really the world that's racist against black people.

just the people of the united states.

i don't think the japanese, chinese, indian, filipino, etc. etc. have anything against black people. it's just in the USA.

rowzzr

I think racism in the USA is just a symptom of classism. For the most part, anyway. There'll always be a few crazies that'll go off and join the Klan and such.

But yeah, I agree with the first poster completely.

the kkk is gay thats what i saystick_manoncrac

I remember Dave Chappelle made a brilliant skit on that. I loved it.

I agree completely with the OP's wall of text.

It is ridiculous to suggest that the developers on RE5are racist or wanted to make the game appear racist. The game's setting is the simple reason for the zombies being black.

The people who are claiming it to be racist are either extremely ignorant of what racism really is, or are attempting to just stir the pot a litte.

it's not really the world that's racist against black people.

just the people of the united states.

i don't think the japanese, chinese, indian, filipino, etc. etc. have anything against black people. it's just in the USA.

rowzzr

Yeah i think its dumb.....

In fact its not the fact that they are saying its racist that bothers me.....its the fact that they are so dumb and close minded that they think its racist.....they cant look at it through a logical point of view (Its set in Africa)and they completely ignore games like GTA that you have a black guy killing white people just for the hell of it...because that directly contradicts what they are saying...

I just hate anybody, i dont care what the issue, that cant think logically and view things from a realistic point of view, put all bias, prejudice, and apll that stuff to the side and look at stuff as it stands realistically.....I hate people that are hypocrits, and only recognize things that are beneficial to them, and completley ignore anything at all which doesnt "please" them....thats why when i go into System Wars i contemplate killing myself...just because there are so many idiots in one area...

Oh...and if people want to see a real racist game....this is one for people to complain about... Ethnic Cleansing

it's not really the world that's racist against black people.

just the people of the united states.

i don't think the japanese, chinese, indian, filipino, etc. etc. have anything against black people. it's just in the USA.

rowzzr

i agree with you 100%.its only in america i hear bout stuff like this. in india ive never experienced,seen or even heard bout racism.though they do like callin westerners :firangi".cracks me up everytime.

it's not really the world that's racist against black people.

just the people of the united states.

i don't think the japanese, chinese, indian, filipino, etc. etc. have anything against black people. it's just in the USA.

rowzzr

Well said TC.

The world is way too PC.

There is WAY more racism towards white people on TV etc, but we dont care and dont make a big deal out of it. For example on The Hughleys i remember when his daughter bought a white doll and he went crazy over it. If that was the other way around imagine the uproars! There would be protests and riots in the streets. It happens all the time; whites being put down, but as soon as its the other way around then its totally unacceptable.

I honestly think the young white male is the biggest minority, not in terms of numbers, but in their voice. Thats the way it would seem here in the UK anyway.

And im not going to apologise for this post if you think it sounds racist (unlike others who are more PC than they think), because im not racist, im just telling what i see.