National Post: Student Reprimanded for Stopping Knife-Wielding Bully at School.

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#1 Crushmaster
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"After Briar MacLean stepped up to defend his classmate against a knife-wielding bully, his mother, Leah ODonnell, was politely informed the school did not condone heroics. Instead, Briar should have found a teacher to handle the situation." - Canada National Post, Calgary.

Source: http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/05/31/briar-maclean-reprimanded-for-stopping-a-knife-wielding-bully-at-school/

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#2 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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It's the same reasoning behind employees of stores not being allowed to stop robbers because if anything happens to the student trying to play the hero the school is liable. Better safe than sorry.

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I can understand the school's point of view. There's a very good chance the kid could have been hurt in the attempt. There's also the fact that the teacher was in the room. That said I can't condemn the kid for what he did. Whether brave or stupid (or a bit of both), he helped resolve the situation.
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#5 Capitan_Kid
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Such BS. The student was simply dishing out justice.
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#6 Slow_Show
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Reprimanding the kid is a bit much, but the policy makes sense. Never mind the liability side of things, a teacher is far more likely to diffuse the situation than some kid trying to physically intervene. 

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Very stupid as that kid could have been killed, even the faculty admits it. At least he's going to Disney Land. I get why the school did it but still, kids a boss.
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I understand why the policy is in place, but it doesn't make any sense to reprimand the student for breaking said policy.

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Enforcing mediocrity and conformity is why America is in the sh!tter. But from a liability standpoint, I understand why they did it this way. They don't need a parent suing the school over a dead kid.
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It's the same reasoning behind employees of stores not being allowed to stop robbers because if anything happens to the student trying to play the hero the school is liable. Better safe than sorry.

Aljosa23
There is a difference between a group of robbers who are likely armed with handguns and a 13 year old bully with a knife that was stopped by a kid acting on reflex.
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Enforcing mediocrity and conformity is why America is in the sh!tter. But from a liability standpoint, I understand why they did it this way. They don't need a parent suing the school over a dead kid.Zeviander
America is not in the shitter, my moose loving canadian friend.

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Either that kids tall or his mother is really short.
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#13 cgi15
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Not like the kid had a choice if the teacher was across the room.

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#14 hiphops_savior
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Either that kids tall or his mother is really short. SaintLeonidas
The kid is 13 year old, I was around 6 feet at that age.
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America is not in the shitter, my moose loving canadian friend.heeweesRus
Tell that to the economy and generation of stupid people.
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#16 branketra
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It's the same reasoning behind employees of stores not being allowed to stop robbers because if anything happens to the student trying to play the hero the school is liable. Better safe than sorry.

Aljosa23
The student in question is not an employee of the school. Schools are made to educate youth about the world and in the United States citizens arrests occur and are okay with law enforcement agencies. Schools of America enforcing rules contrasting U.S. law are making wrong decisions like the school the student in question attends.
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The student in question is not an employee of the school. Schools are made to educate youth about the world and in the United States citizens arrests occur and are okay with law enforcement agencies. Schools of America enforcing rules contrasting U.S. law are making wrong decisions like the school the student in question attends.BranKetra
It does not matter that he is not an employee. He is still under the school's care during school and the school is liable to be sued if anything had happened. The reason why citizen arrests are okay in other circumstances should be obvious.

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Enforcing mediocrity and conformity is why America is in the sh!tter.Zeviander
The story says this incident took place in Calgary.
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[QUOTE="BranKetra"]The student in question is not an employee of the school. Schools are made to educate youth about the world and in the United States citizens arrests occur and are okay with law enforcement agencies. Schools of America enforcing rules contrasting U.S. law are making wrong decisions like the school the student in question attends.Aljosa23

It does not matter that he is not an employee. He is still under the school's care during school and the school is liable to be sued if anything had happened. The reason why citizen arrests are okay in other circumstances should be obvious.

Schools celebrate football team scoring a touchdown, but disapprove of stopping bullies with weapons. They live in a fantasy land.
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="BranKetra"]The student in question is not an employee of the school. Schools are made to educate youth about the world and in the United States citizens arrests occur and are okay with law enforcement agencies. Schools of America enforcing rules contrasting U.S. law are making wrong decisions like the school the student in question attends.BranKetra

It does not matter that he is not an employee. He is still under the school's care during school and the school is liable to be sued if anything had happened. The reason why citizen arrests are okay in other circumstances should be obvious.

Schools celebrate football team scoring a touchdown, but disapprove of stopping bullies with weapons. They live in a fantasy land.

No they live in the United States of Litigation.

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"After Briar MacLean stepped up to defend his classmate against a knife-wielding bully, his mother, Leah ODonnell, was politely informed the school did not condone heroics. Instead, Briar should have found a teacher to handle the situation." - Canada National Post, Calgary.

Source: http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/05/31/briar-maclean-reprimanded-for-stopping-a-knife-wielding-bully-at-school/

Do you agree or disagree with the school's rule and the consequent actions they took?
God bless,
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It's the same reasoning behind employees of stores not being allowed to stop robbers because if anything happens to the student trying to play the hero the school is liable. Better safe than sorry.

Aljosa23
yea running to a teacher fixes the situation : eye roll: if you think this kid deserved what he got im sorry but thats just stupid
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#23 hartsickdiscipl
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It's nonsense.  The kid showed courage and character that most people never do.  To reprimand him is silly.  I see what the school is trying to say, but I think they are missing the bigger issue.  

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#25 ThaneKrios28
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It's nonsense.  The kid showed courage and character that most people never do.  To reprimand him is silly.  I see what the school is trying to say, but I think they are missing the bigger issue.  

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ya think? and with all this talk about stopping bullying youd think they show this kid gratitude instead they show him hes a bad guy
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I can understand the school's point of view. There's a very good chance the kid could have been hurt in the attempt. There's also the fact that the teacher was in the room. That said I can't condemn the kid for what he did. Whether brave or stupid (or a bit of both), he helped resolve the situation.chessmaster1989

Pretty much this. The person most responsible for the area should have dealt with it. I would, if something happened in my classrom.

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[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]America is not in the shitter, my moose loving canadian friend.Zeviander
Tell that to the economy and generation of stupid people.

Here in America I also think its become unnecessarily difficult to obtain a job.
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]I can understand the school's point of view. There's a very good chance the kid could have been hurt in the attempt. There's also the fact that the teacher was in the room. That said I can't condemn the kid for what he did. Whether brave or stupid (or a bit of both), he helped resolve the situation.

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#30 Serraph105
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Eh....it's one of those moments where I understand why the school handled it the way they did (though I don't agree with the searching of the kid's locker), but I also can understand why the kid intervened. For the most part the school seems to have avoided punishing the kid while not encouraging other kids to put their lives in danger in the future.

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#31 THE_DRUGGIE
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If only he had a gun, this would have never happened.

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#32 dude_brahmski
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I understand why the school did it, but the kid's a fvcking badass. Good on him.

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#33 Serraph105
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If only he had a gun, this would have never happened.

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well I most certainly agree with this. Obviously a gun would solve this quickly, and multiple guns would have solved it even quicker.
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#34 wis3boi
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I understand the school's stance, but they had no reason to be an ass about it afterwards.  Call a teacher and let the kid get slashed and stabbed, or take action and save a life.

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It's the same reasoning behind employees of stores not being allowed to stop robbers because if anything happens to the student trying to play the hero the school is liable. Better safe than sorry.

Aljosa23

Pretty much this. I completely understand the school's point of view.

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#36 htotheo
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Why would you reprimand the kid? That is in so many ways wrong, if anything the kid should be congratulated and celebrated as a hero. I understand the liability issue and getting a teacher but the teacher most likely would have done less. Good on the kid.
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#37 LostProphetFLCL
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ITT: Apparently alot of people do not underswtand the concept of liability....

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#38 THE_DRUGGIE
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ITT: Apparently alot of people do not underswtand the concept of liability....

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#39 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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The school is saying that because they legally have to, one of the sad parts of politics.

Obviously, nobody is blaming this kid for his actions.

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the system we have now days dealing with stuff like this is total backwards...

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[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]It does not matter that he is not an employee. He is still under the school's care during school and the school is liable to be sued if anything had happened. The reason why citizen arrests are okay in other circumstances should be obvious.

Aljosa23

Schools celebrate football team scoring a touchdown, but disapprove of stopping bullies with weapons. They live in a fantasy land.

No they live in the United States of Litigation.

The collective authority of the United States is double speaking. 

-Citzens arrests are okay 

-We do not condone heroics

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[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

If only he had a gun, this would have never happened.

Serraph105
well I most certainly agree with this. Obviously a gun would solve this quickly, and multiple guns would have solved it even quicker.

Solved it even faster if all the teachers had guns, and if some parents were in the school with guns to watch out for the children.
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#43 Nibroc420
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Yeah i remember seeing a kid getting punched in the face and stopping the bully. I got suspended for fighting, despite never having thrown a punch. All i did was grab the guy on top and pull him off. Schools dont care about who starts what, they simply know they're responsible for the students. If every student could sit idle in a chair between classes, they'd much prefer that because it reduces their liability. As long as you show up, they get paid per head, and so long as your parents dont sue them for allowing you to get bullied, they dont care.
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

If only he had a gun, this would have never happened.

Legolas_Katarn

well I most certainly agree with this. Obviously a gun would solve this quickly, and multiple guns would have solved it even quicker.

Solved it even faster if all the teachers had guns, and if some parents were in the school with guns to watch out for the children.

Imagine bullying this one's child.