Neat Listening Test

So... you think you've got da skillz when it comes to listening? Give this a try, and post your first-attempt scores!

Adaptive: Reliably accurate to 0.675 Hz apart.

Rhythm: 92%

Tonedeaf: 91.7%

Musical-visual: 100% W00T!

Hey pianist! Haven't seen you around in a while. I'll give that a try in a bit (I hope I don't embarass myself), just let me finish listening to Beethoven's "Pathétique" Sonata. :D

on the adaptive test, i got accurate to within 1.05 hz.. lame.. doing the other tests now

this is fun :D

Hey pianist! Haven't seen you around in a while. I'll give that a try in a bit (I hope I don't embarass myself), just let me finish listening to Beethoven's "Pathétique" Sonata. :D

black_cat19

Take your time with it and don't get flustered. It's an exercise in concentration and focus - important skills for an aspiring musician!

on the adaptive test, i got accurate to within 1.05 hz.. lame.. doing the other tests now

this is fun :D

HardQuor

:lol:

1.05 is lame? That's pretty damn good, dude. Do you have any musical training?

The quality of music is more sociologically based, rather than mathematical. I personally prefer avante-garde/experimental (ECM) jazz, 19th/20th century classical, old-school blues ([Blind] Willie McTell), and (pseudo) ethnic music (Flamenco, etc.). Why must you appear so elitist? Is it your education or upbringing?burpysmurph

Huh? It's a listening test, dude... not a "what do your musical tastes say about you" thread. I assure you - you can have a good ear regardless of what your musical preferences are. Would you like me to remove my scores? I included them because I always find it silly when people post tests and tell people to post their scores, but don't post their own.

[QUOTE="HardQuor"]

on the adaptive test, i got accurate to within 1.05 hz.. lame.. doing the other tests now

this is fun :D

pianist

:lol:

1.05 is lame? That's pretty damn good, dude. Do you have any musical training?

is it good? i was only comparing myself against your score, and i was dissapointed.. even though the chart said i did pretty well :P

anywho, i haven't had any sort of training, unless you count my semester in junior high beginner's band :P

aaaand, i just finished the rhythym test, jeez is that thing tough.. got 76.0% though :D

is it good? i was only comparing myself against your score, and i was dissapointed.. even though the chart said i did pretty well :P

anywho, i haven't had any sort of training, unless you count my semester in junior high beginner's band :P

aaaand, i just finished the rhythym test, jeez is that thing tough.. got 76.0% though :D

HardQuor

It's very good, as I'm sure you noticed in the distribution chart at the end - and even more impressive given your comparative lack of musical experience. You've finished the two most difficult ones. Give yourself a break and do the visual one next. Save the tone deaf for last. It's not harder than the rhythm, but it IS much more taxing than the visual test... or at least I found it to be that way.

You can develop your ear further by playing the tests multiple times, examining your mistakes, and figuring out WHY the correct answers are correct. One of the ones I missed in the rhythm test was pretty obvious when I knew what the answer was. Funny that I missed it on the first go...

i got reliable up to 3.9hz apart. the rest i still have to take.Xeros606

Try musical-visual next. It's far less boring than the adaptive test.

[QUOTE="HardQuor"]

is it good? i was only comparing myself against your score, and i was dissapointed.. even though the chart said i did pretty well :P

anywho, i haven't had any sort of training, unless you count my semester in junior high beginner's band :P

aaaand, i just finished the rhythym test, jeez is that thing tough.. got 76.0% though :D

pianist

It's very good, as I'm sure you noticed in the distribution chart at the end - and even more impressive given your comparative lack of musical experience. You've finished the two most difficult ones. Give yourself a break and do the visual one next. Save the tone deaf for last. It's not harder than the rhythm, but it IS much more taxing than the visual test... or at least I found it to be that way.

You can develop your ear further by playing the tests multiple times, examining your mistakes, and figuring out WHY the correct answers are correct. One of the ones I missed in the rhythm test was pretty obvious when I knew what the answer was. Funny that I missed it on the first go...

i missed the charts at the end of the tests.. didn't realize there was more to look at after my score >.<

and unfortunately, i had already started the tone deaf test before you posted to warn me X_x; I scored atrociously, no wonder i always get boo'd at karaoke :( 63.9%..

on to musical-visual :D

[QUOTE="Xeros606"]i got reliable up to 3.9hz apart. the rest i still have to take.pianist

Try musical-visual next. It's far less boring than the adaptive test.

wtf is up with that one? is it like one of those subconscious tests?

Don't call me dude, as that is undermining yourself, but more importantly I am suggesting that musical preference does not denote an understanding of theory or mathematics, but more importantly an understanding of music from a human perspective. Modern popular music is crap because it implicates an ephemeral lack of true understanding of what music represents as an art form. Now folk music does represent this class, but not in the commercial age. I love music for what it should be, trancendental of any commercial influence. Shall we talk Schoenberg?

wtf is up with that one? is it like one of those subconscious tests?

Xeros606

Not really - you attempt to correlate what you hear to the picture that makes the most logical sense. So, for instance, the first question plays two identical phrases, but first it is with a piano, then with a flute. Thus, you pick the picture of the black box followed by the red box (same phrase, different instruments). In the second question, it plays two perfectly identical phrases with the same instrument - so you pick the two identical boxes.

Match the pictures to the subtleties of what you hear. Replay it several times and see if you can make one of the pictures 'fit' what you're hearing. Does it make sense now?

Addaptive: At 500hz, you can reliably differentiate 3.3 Hz apart.

Rythm: 76%

Tonedeaf: 66.7%

Musical-visual: Couldn't do it.

Don't call me dude, as that is undermining yourself, but more importantly I am suggesting that musical preference does not denote an understanding of theory or mathematics, but more importantly an understanding of music from a human perspective. Modern popular music is crap because it implicates an ephemeral lack of true understanding of what music represents as an art form. Now folk music does represent this class, but not in the commercial age. I love music for what it should be, trancendental of any commercial influence. Shall we talk Schoenberg?

burpysmurph

lmao two guys with bearded guys for avatars fighting on a video game forum.

Musical-visual: Couldn't do it.

epayps2

Read my post above yours. You don't need musical training to do it - just logic and an ability to test your aural hypothesis.

Don't call me dude, as that is undermining yourself, but more importantly I am suggesting that musical preference does not denote an understanding of theory or mathematics, but more importantly an understanding of music from a human perspective. Modern popular music is crap because it implicates an ephemeral lack of true understanding of what music represents as an art form. Now folk music does represent this class, but not in the commercial age. I love music for what it should be, trancendental of any commercial influence. Shall we talk Schoenberg?

burpysmurph

[QUOTE="burpysmurph"]

Don't call me dude, as that is undermining yourself, but more importantly I am suggesting that musical preference does not denote an understanding of theory or mathematics, but more importantly an understanding of music from a human perspective. Modern popular music is crap because it implicates an ephemeral lack of true understanding of what music represents as an art form. Now folk music does represent this class, but not in the commercial age. I love music for what it should be, trancendental of any commercial influence. Shall we talk Schoenberg?

Bloodbath_87

Don't be obnoxious.

[QUOTE="burpysmurph"]

Don't call me dude, as that is undermining yourself, but more importantly I am suggesting that musical preference does not denote an understanding of theory or mathematics, but more importantly an understanding of music from a human perspective. Modern popular music is crap because it implicates an ephemeral lack of true understanding of what music represents as an art form. Now folk music does represent this class, but not in the commercial age. I love music for what it should be, trancendental of any commercial influence. Shall we talk Schoenberg?

Xeros606

lmao two guys with bearded guys for avatars fighting on a video game forum.

So what does that say to you about these dudes? :P

Musical-visual: 45%

[QUOTE="Xeros606"][QUOTE="burpysmurph"]

Don't call me dude, as that is undermining yourself, but more importantly I am suggesting that musical preference does not denote an understanding of theory or mathematics, but more importantly an understanding of music from a human perspective. Modern popular music is crap because it implicates an ephemeral lack of true understanding of what music represents as an art form. Now folk music does represent this class, but not in the commercial age. I love music for what it should be, trancendental of any commercial influence. Shall we talk Schoenberg?

groovdafied

lmao two guys with bearded guys for avatars fighting on a video game forum.

So what does that say to you about these dudes? :P

i dont know.

but beards are awesome.

ok, just finished the last test, and you were right, the musical-visual one was much more engaging than the others. alhtough the first test was a breeze in comparison.

anywho, i got 100% overall

pitch discrimination: 100.0%

musical memory: 100.0%

contour discrimination: 95.2%

attentiom: 97.8%

musical/visual abstraction: 100.0%

though i'm not sure how it got these numbers if the answers are either correct or incorrect...

[QUOTE="groovdafied"][QUOTE="Xeros606"][QUOTE="burpysmurph"]

Don't call me dude, as that is undermining yourself, but more importantly I am suggesting that musical preference does not denote an understanding of theory or mathematics, but more importantly an understanding of music from a human perspective. Modern popular music is crap because it implicates an ephemeral lack of true understanding of what music represents as an art form. Now folk music does represent this class, but not in the commercial age. I love music for what it should be, trancendental of any commercial influence. Shall we talk Schoenberg?

Xeros606

lmao two guys with bearded guys for avatars fighting on a video game forum.

So what does that say to you about these dudes? :P

i dont know.

but beards are awesome.

That - is - awesome!

Impatience got the best of me, especially in the musical-visual test, I know I should have done better, it was plainly obvious what was being asked of me, but I rushed things and didn't use the replay button nearly as much as I should have... :(

Adaptive: reliable up to 1.95 Hz

Rythm: 92%

Tonedeaf: 86.1%

Music-visual: 60%

I want another chance, but I know it's all my fault, I don't deserve it...

Don't call me dude, as that is undermining yourself, but more importantly I am suggesting that musical preference does not denote an understanding of theory or mathematics, but more importantly an understanding of music from a human perspective. Modern popular music is crap because it implicates an ephemeral lack of true understanding of what music represents as an art form. Now folk music does represent this class, but not in the commercial age. I love music for what it should be, trancendental of any commercial influence. Shall we talk Schoenberg?

burpysmurph

I'm rather confused about why you're bringing musical preference into this at all. Again, this is a listening test (I have changed the title, as I felt perhaps you objected to the word "music" in it). Aural skills do not determine preferences or understanding of mathematical or music theory any more than knowledge determines intellect.

Since you brought it up - I'm not a fan of avant garde cIassical music. And if you sneer at elitism in music, that's not a field you should respect either, since it is about as elitist as you can get in the entire history of Western music. There are very few people in the world who can enjoy listening to Boulez's piano sonatas, and even fewer who have the technical background to understand what he's doing in those works. While Schoenberg is obviously a precursor to Boulez, his music is of a similar but less complicated vein. It is unpopular because it is incomprehensible to most. And even if you DO understand it, you can find it to be grating and unpleasant to hear. As he claimed, his music IS a natural extension of late 19th century chromaticism, but it is not (in my opinion) a successful or effective extension, because unlike the harmonic explorations pursued by other composers who sought to push the boundaries of composition and tonality, Schoenberg's music (and indeed all of the Second Viennese school's music) is totally inaccessible to most people. Composers like Debussy and Ravel were just as creative - but their music speaks to more than a small, academic minority.

But what does any of that have to do with a listening test?

[QUOTE="Bloodbath_87"][QUOTE="burpysmurph"]

Don't call me dude, as that is undermining yourself, but more importantly I am suggesting that musical preference does not denote an understanding of theory or mathematics, but more importantly an understanding of music from a human perspective. Modern popular music is crap because it implicates an ephemeral lack of true understanding of what music represents as an art form. Now folk music does represent this class, but not in the commercial age. I love music for what it should be, trancendental of any commercial influence. Shall we talk Schoenberg?

burpysmurph

Don't be obnoxious.

ok, i wasn't going to butt in, but at this point, i feel i should say that you're being the obnoxious one here. You just sort of barged into this thread making assumptions and accusing bloodbath of being an elitist when allhe did was post an online music test. this thread (and the test) has nothing to do with musical preference at all.

you should check yourself before you start pointing fingers and calling names.

I consider Pianist a friend, and worthy of a discussion (debate), which is more than I can say for any of you.

I had no idea he had such a "posse" operating on his behalf. This is disgustung.

[QUOTE="Bloodbath_87"][QUOTE="burpysmurph"]

Don't call me dude, as that is undermining yourself, but more importantly I am suggesting that musical preference does not denote an understanding of theory or mathematics, but more importantly an understanding of music from a human perspective. Modern popular music is crap because it implicates an ephemeral lack of true understanding of what music represents as an art form. Now folk music does represent this class, but not in the commercial age. I love music for what it should be, trancendental of any commercial influence. Shall we talk Schoenberg?

burpysmurph

Don't be obnoxious.

I consider Pianist a friend, and worthy of a discussion (debate), which is more than I can say for any of you.burpysmurph

Who the hell are you people?!? I feel like I am being met by a mafioso group like I was trying to sell/buy drugs or something.burpysmurph

are you selling drugs? pm me if so.

i missed the charts at the end of the tests.. didn't realize there was more to look at after my score >.<

and unfortunately, i had already started the tone deaf test before you posted to warn me X_x; I scored atrociously, no wonder i always get boo'd at karaoke :( 63.9%..

on to musical-visual :D

HardQuor

:lol:

Try the tone deaf one again some other time. I have a feeling you scored lower because it's lengthy, and your concentration had already been spent on the previous tests (especially the rhythm one). You'll likely do much better the second time through.

Who the hell are you people?!? I feel like I am being met by a mafioso group like I was trying to sell/buy drugs or something.burpysmurph

Who the hell are you people?!? I feel like I am being met by a mafioso group like I was trying to sell/buy drugs or something.burpysmurph

There really isn't a problem with you being here. It's just strange that you chose to bring up topics like preferences and Schoenberg in a thread that had nothing to do with either. From your first post, it sounded like you felt I had ulterior motives for bringing this to peoples' attention. That wasn't the case. There's no hidden message here.

It's just a listening test, nothing more. It's totally independent of what music you prefer, musical philosophy, understanding, theory, and so forth.

Impatience got the best of me, especially in the musical-visual test, I know I should have done better, it was plainly obvious what was being asked of me, but I rushed things and didn't use the replay button nearly as much as I should have... :(

Adaptive: reliable up to 1.95 Hz

Rythm: 92%

Tonedeaf: 86.1%

Music-visual: 60%

I want another chance, but I know it's all my fault, I don't deserve it...

black_cat19

You did great with the rhythm and tonedeaf tests. I found the rhythm test to be the most difficult one - partly because it gets to you psychologically. Was it REALLY the same... or did they intentionally change something that wasn't obvious? Good thing you had a replay function for that one (albeit limited), because there were several that I wouldn't have got with the first hearing.

The visual one was a piece of cake for me, though, and easily the most rewarding. Do it again when you haven't just finished a bunch of other grueling aural tests. You'll do much better.

I was trying to strike an alternate/deviated conversation with you, but apparently you are so defensive and/or elitist, you are not willing to engage. I'm sorry (for you). You lost my respect.

burpysmurph

sounds like you were trying to hijack the thread and now you're all butt-sore over it.

[QUOTE="black_cat19"]

Impatience got the best of me, especially in the musical-visual test, I know I should have done better, it was plainly obvious what was being asked of me, but I rushed things and didn't use the replay button nearly as much as I should have... :(

Adaptive: reliable up to 1.95 Hz

Rythm: 92%

Tonedeaf: 86.1%

Music-visual: 60%

I want another chance, but I know it's all my fault, I don't deserve it...

pianist

You did great with the rhythm and tonedeaf tests. I found the rhythm test to be the most difficult one - partly because it gets to you psychologically. Was it REALLY the same... or did they intentionally change something that wasn't obvious? Good thing you had a replay function for that one (albeit limited), because there were several that I wouldn't have got with the first hearing.

The visual one was a piece of cake for me, though, and easily the most rewarding. Do it again when you haven't just finished a bunch of other grueling aural tests. You'll do much better.

I'm curious about the training you've had (if any?).. seems like you're pretty knowledgeable on the subject.

and also, i can delude myself that i have an ear comparable to a classicaly trained fella ;P

[QUOTE="burpysmurph"]

I was trying to strike an alternate/deviated conversation with you, but apparently you are so defensive and/or elitist, you are not willing to engage. I'm sorry (for you). You lost my respect.

HardQuor

sounds like you were trying to hijack the thread and now you're all butt-sore over it.

Why is everyone else so butt-sore? Is this man like a drug lord or something?! I wish to engage in a conversation and he is treated by others online like a Lord Fauntleroy. Pathetic!

I was trying to strike an alternate/deviated conversation with you, but apparently you are so defensive and/or elitist, you are not willing to engage. I'm sorry (for you). You lost my respect.

burpysmurph

*shrug*

Respect from those on the internet is of little consequence to our lives. You approached this deviated conversation with hostility, giving the impression that you misinterpreted both the topic itself and my intent in creating it. And I did humor you in the reply you just quoted by 'talking Schoenberg,' despite my misgivings about lending the impression that avant garde music is in any way related to a listening test.

[QUOTE="HardQuor"][QUOTE="burpysmurph"]

I was trying to strike an alternate/deviated conversation with you, but apparently you are so defensive and/or elitist, you are not willing to engage. I'm sorry (for you). You lost my respect.

burpysmurph

sounds like you were trying to hijack the thread and now you're all butt-sore over it.

Why is everyone else so butt-sore? Is this man like a drug lord or something?! I wish to engage in a conversation and he is treated by others online like a Lord Fauntleroy. Pathetic!