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#1 the_tomboy
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I'm turning goth soon, my mates getting me a load of stuff and so far I want to be cyber, industrial but I've only heard of three different types of goth. I'm not asking you explain allof them to me, I'm asking is being cyber industrial a good idea or should I just forget the entire goth thing or should I go for a different style??? I need an honest opinion here :) please
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#2 mattmaul5488
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I hate goths almost as much as i hate emos....Its just weird that there are people out there that think there problems are so bad that they need to be "dark and tormented"...I've seen you around the boards and i think your cool.. so no...Goth is lame,be yourself not some weirdo with with way to much make-up on...
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#3 quadraleap
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Try to be yourself, whatever that might be.

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I'm turning goth soon, my mates getting me a load of stuff and so far I want to be cyber, industrial but I've only heard of three different types of goth. I'm not asking you explain allof them to me, I'm asking is being cyber industrial a good idea or should I just forget the entire goth thing or should I go for a different style??? I need an honest opinion here :) pleasethe_tomboy
Dude, make your own style. Don't conform just because you feel like you need a "style," it will only make you feel like an alien in your own skin. Then again maybe you should go for it. It will be one of life's lessons.

EDIT: If people can't except you for who you are, or how you appear then **** them. You don't need 'em.
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#5 aussie_rocks
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ya man dont go goth...be yourself
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#6 wrlyy
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I dunno, goth seems like an anti-social style. From your posts you don't seem like that kind of person.
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#7 GTALoco
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Oh... wow. I don't even know what to say here.

What is it with the kids these days?
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I'm turning goth soon, my mates getting me a load of stuff and so far I want to be cyber, industrial but I've only heard of three different types of goth. I'm not asking you explain allof them to me, I'm asking is being cyber industrial a good idea or should I just forget the entire goth thing or should I go for a different style??? I need an honest opinion here :) pleasethe_tomboy

This is really funny...mostly because you're TRYING to be labeled. When you get older, you'll look back at this thread and laugh.

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#9 tequilasunriser
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I dunno, goth seems like an anti-social style. From your posts you don't seem like that kind of person.wrlyy
Thats generalizing goths. Not all are antisocial. By that rational all "preps" are social when, infact, I know many preps who are antisocial and dress preppy because they feel it will ease them from the socially akward position they are in.
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#10 Sheik_Yerbouti_
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How about just being yourself? Strange concept, I know
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Be yourself, no matter what anyone else says.
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#12 MattUD1
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I'm turning goth soon, my mates getting me a load of stuff and so far I want to be cyber, industrial but I've only heard of three different types of goth. I'm not asking you explain allof them to me, I'm asking is being cyber industrial a good idea or should I just forget the entire goth thing or should I go for a different forbiddenthe_tomboy

I stopped right there.
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#13 -Karayan-
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Ok..... You're "turning" goth, therefore you fail.
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#14 Artosa
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Goth is a type of 1980's music
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#15 Krazykraz01
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Honestly, I'm friends with a lot of "goths" but it's best to just be yourself...by trying to be different in this way you're actully just being a conformist. Being yourself is NEVER conformity.
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#16 -Karayan-
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Goth is a type of 1980's musicArtosa
Gothic is a sub culture adhering to creativity, independence and a love for dark art and literature (known as gothic art/ literature) as well as gothic architecture.
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#17 Artosa
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[QUOTE="Artosa"]Goth is a type of 1980's music-Karayan-
Gothic is a sub culture adhering to creativity, independence and a love for dark art and literature (known as gothic art/ literature) as well as gothic architecture.

that was developed from the music, its was basically music in the 1980's. and it was more like punk back then.
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[QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="Artosa"]Goth is a type of 1980's musicArtosa
Gothic is a sub culture adhering to creativity, independence and a love for dark art and literature (known as gothic art/ literature) as well as gothic architecture.

that was developed from the music, its was basically music in the 1980's. and it was more like punk back then.

Yes....the music came first and goth is long dead.
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[QUOTE="Artosa"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="Artosa"]Goth is a type of 1980's musicLJS9502_basic
Gothic is a sub culture adhering to creativity, independence and a love for dark art and literature (known as gothic art/ literature) as well as gothic architecture.

that was developed from the music, its was basically music in the 1980's. and it was more like punk back then.

Yes....the music came first and goth is long dead.

And I suppose the literature and art that developed in the mid-late 19th century came later than the music from the late 20th century? Not to mention the architecture that dates back as far as 1144. Music is a very small part of it, and in my opinion neglectable, it's not what its about.
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#20 ayanami_rei
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O.o Never "turn" goth. Be yourself. That's all you need to be. Don't fullfil the hunger of those who do not like you for who you are. Though, it's quite funny how people just automatically assume and call you "goth" and "emo" anyway for wearing just black whenever you feel like it. :| Anyway, be yourself. It'll save you in the long run. You won't regret being yourself, but most likely regret being not yourself.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Artosa"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="Artosa"]Goth is a type of 1980's music-Karayan-
Gothic is a sub culture adhering to creativity, independence and a love for dark art and literature (known as gothic art/ literature) as well as gothic architecture.

that was developed from the music, its was basically music in the 1980's. and it was more like punk back then.

Yes....the music came first and goth is long dead.

And I suppose the literature and art that developed in the mid-late 19th century came later than the music from the late 20th century? Not to mention the architecture that dates back as far as 1144. Music is a very small part of it, and in my opinion neglectable, it's not what its about.

*sigh*  The literature was not regarded as goth back when it was written.   After the term goth became accepted it was then applied to anything dark and gloomy.  It's just descriptive and isn't really a "style" of people.  Those who call themselves goth now are wannabes.  Goth died.

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So many people are saying "be yourself don't turn goth. Don't conform" lol. Does no one see the problem with those comments? What if being goth is something this person is just wanting to be and *shock* is part of this person being themselves. Maybe they just wanna try something new to.
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#23 Artosa
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[QUOTE="Artosa"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="Artosa"]Goth is a type of 1980's musicLJS9502_basic
Gothic is a sub culture adhering to creativity, independence and a love for dark art and literature (known as gothic art/ literature) as well as gothic architecture.

that was developed from the music, its was basically music in the 1980's. and it was more like punk back then.

Yes....the music came first and goth is long dead.

this man is correct. and karayan Music had a HUGE part at the begining of the goth subculture. its just crap now
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#24 -Karayan-
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[QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Artosa"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="Artosa"]Goth is a type of 1980's musicLJS9502_basic

Gothic is a sub culture adhering to creativity, independence and a love for dark art and literature (known as gothic art/ literature) as well as gothic architecture.

that was developed from the music, its was basically music in the 1980's. and it was more like punk back then.

Yes....the music came first and goth is long dead.

And I suppose the literature and art that developed in the mid-late 19th century came later than the music from the late 20th century? Not to mention the architecture that dates back as far as 1144. Music is a very small part of it, and in my opinion neglectable, it's not what its about.

*sigh* The literature was not regarded as goth back when it was written. After the term goth became accepted it was then applied to anything dark and gloomy. It's just descriptive and isn't really a "style" of people. Those who call themselves goth now are wannabes. Goth died.

What does the name matter? Call it dark romanticist for all I care.
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So many people are saying "be yourself don't turn goth. Don't conform" lol. Does no one see the problem with those comments? What if being goth is something this person is just wanting to be and *shock* is part of this person being themselves. Maybe they just wanna try something new to.funkadelichika
How is being yourself if you decide to "turn" goth? I have nothing against goths but IMO it shouldn't be something that you just turn into.
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#26 ayanami_rei
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So many people are saying "be yourself don't turn goth. Don't conform" lol. Does no one see the problem with those comments? What if being goth is something this person is just wanting to be and *shock* is part of this person being themselves. Maybe they just wanna try something new to.funkadelichika
But she's turning goth. It's not who she is, it's what her friends want her to become, or so that's what I got out of it after reading it.
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No matter where you turn the you that you are turning away from will always be there.

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#28 Krazykraz01
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[QUOTE="funkadelichika"]So many people are saying "be yourself don't turn goth. Don't conform" lol. Does no one see the problem with those comments? What if being goth is something this person is just wanting to be and *shock* is part of this person being themselves. Maybe they just wanna try something new to.ayanami_rei
But she's turning goth. It's not who she is, it's what her friends want her to become, or so that's what I got out of it after reading it.

I agree...something like turning gay is who you are because you are born with it (even though you won't realise until your teens), but this isn't the case here.
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#29 MattUD1
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So many people are saying "be yourself don't turn goth. Don't conform" lol. Does no one see the problem with those comments? What if being goth is something this person is just wanting to be and *shock* is part of this person being themselves. Maybe they just wanna try something new to.funkadelichika
Like someone who wakes up and decides "I wanna be gay right?
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#30 Krazykraz01
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[QUOTE="funkadelichika"]So many people are saying "be yourself don't turn goth. Don't conform" lol. Does no one see the problem with those comments? What if being goth is something this person is just wanting to be and *shock* is part of this person being themselves. Maybe they just wanna try something new to.MattUD1
Like someone who wakes up and decides "I wanna be gay right?

Haha nice...ironically the other day in Maths a classmate basically said that he thought that's how homosexuality worked. The teacher totally humiliated him :P
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If he/she likes to turn Goth, why not?
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[QUOTE="ayanami_rei"][QUOTE="funkadelichika"]So many people are saying "be yourself don't turn goth. Don't conform" lol. Does no one see the problem with those comments? What if being goth is something this person is just wanting to be and *shock* is part of this person being themselves. Maybe they just wanna try something new to.Krazykraz01
But she's turning goth. It's not who she is, it's what her friends want her to become, or so that's what I got out of it after reading it.

I agree...something like turning gay is who you are because you are born with it (even though you won't realise until your teens), but this isn't the case here.

I like the dark stuff, such as vampires, werewolves, and all that, but never considered myself goth. O.o After telling people that at school, they automatically thought I was "goth" or "emo." I'm just myself and that's what I'll always be. Being yourself is being unique, not another "lifeless form" that is same as others.
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[QUOTE="funkadelichika"]So many people are saying "be yourself don't turn goth. Don't conform" lol. Does no one see the problem with those comments? What if being goth is something this person is just wanting to be and *shock* is part of this person being themselves. Maybe they just wanna try something new to.Krazykraz01
How is being yourself if you decide to "turn" goth? I have nothing against goths but IMO it shouldn't be something that you just turn into.

IWe all have different parts of our selves that we need to explore maybe this is just one of those things. My point was though that alot of people here are saying dont do that or this dont listen to others listen to yourself. Should she listen to you even thought you just told her not to...???
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>*sigh* The literature was not regarded as goth back when it was written. After the term goth became accepted it was then applied to anything dark and gloomy. It's just descriptive and isn't really a "style" of people. Those who call themselves goth now are wannabes. Goth died.LJS9502_basic
Gothic also refers to sans-serif fonts :|
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]>*sigh* The literature was not regarded as goth back when it was written. After the term goth became accepted it was then applied to anything dark and gloomy. It's just descriptive and isn't really a "style" of people. Those who call themselves goth now are wannabes. Goth died._dangerman_
Gothic also refers to sans-serif fonts :|

trying to break the tension? lol
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#36 -Karayan-
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[QUOTE="Krazykraz01"][QUOTE="ayanami_rei"][QUOTE="funkadelichika"]So many people are saying "be yourself don't turn goth. Don't conform" lol. Does no one see the problem with those comments? What if being goth is something this person is just wanting to be and *shock* is part of this person being themselves. Maybe they just wanna try something new to.ayanami_rei
But she's turning goth. It's not who she is, it's what her friends want her to become, or so that's what I got out of it after reading it.

I agree...something like turning gay is who you are because you are born with it (even though you won't realise until your teens), but this isn't the case here.

I like the dark stuff, such as vampires, werewolves, and all that, but never considered myself goth. O.o After telling people that at school, they automatically thought I was "goth" or "emo." I'm just myself and that's what I'll always be. Being yourself is being unique, not another "lifeless form" that is same as others.

The original and in my opinion true description of a "Goth" (besides the Ostro- and Visi-Goths) is not really a strict set of rules. Its enjoying art (which can be expressed in many ways), literature and music in many forms, which mostly adhere to those dark themes and take place in gothic locations. That doesn't mean you can't enjoy a comedy, but it's more of a deeper enjoyment out of that darker art, like how classical music is more profoundly enjoyable than other types of music. It's also creativity and independence which may cause them to disown the name Goth itself, but also a sense of enjoying individuals who are like minded. It's certainly not the teenager at highschool who happens to wear black clothes and reads magazines about witches and ghosts.
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#37 Krazykraz01
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[QUOTE="Krazykraz01"][QUOTE="funkadelichika"]So many people are saying "be yourself don't turn goth. Don't conform" lol. Does no one see the problem with those comments? What if being goth is something this person is just wanting to be and *shock* is part of this person being themselves. Maybe they just wanna try something new to.funkadelichika
How is being yourself if you decide to "turn" goth? I have nothing against goths but IMO it shouldn't be something that you just turn into.

IWe all have different parts of our selves that we need to explore maybe this is just one of those things. My point was though that alot of people here are saying dont do that or this dont listen to others listen to yourself. Should she listen to you even thought you just told her not to...???

Well, I'm not this girls Dad...I'm just offering my advice which she asked for.
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If you want to act or look a certain way, don't let other peoples opinions dissuade you.
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#39 wurn
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VERY VERY True.. i should know i am old enough to be a Father to most of you here on GS

[QUOTE="the_tomboy"]I'm turning goth soon, my mates getting me a load of stuff and so far I want to be cyber, industrial but I've only heard of three different types of goth. I'm not asking you explain allof them to me, I'm asking is being cyber industrial a good idea or should I just forget the entire goth thing or should I go for a different style??? I need an honest opinion here :) pleasereggie186

This is really funny...mostly because you're TRYING to be labeled. When you get older, you'll look back at this thread and laugh.

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#40 mktazza
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never go goth
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#41 bastards12345
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Try to be yourself, whatever that might be.

quadraleap

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#42 bastards12345
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[QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Artosa"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="Artosa"]Goth is a type of 1980's musicLJS9502_basic

Gothic is a sub culture adhering to creativity, independence and a love for dark art and literature (known as gothic art/ literature) as well as gothic architecture.

that was developed from the music, its was basically music in the 1980's. and it was more like punk back then.

Yes....the music came first and goth is long dead.

And I suppose the literature and art that developed in the mid-late 19th century came later than the music from the late 20th century? Not to mention the architecture that dates back as far as 1144. Music is a very small part of it, and in my opinion neglectable, it's not what its about.

*sigh* The literature was not regarded as goth back when it was written. After the term goth became accepted it was then applied to anything dark and gloomy. It's just descriptive and isn't really a "style" of people. Those who call themselves goth now are wannabes. Goth died.

There will always be people who live in the past...
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why would you want to turn goth?? The only people that look at you and think your cool are other people that dress gothic....the rest of the world just thinks your an idiot... i hate gothic people...theres no reason to be goth, they just want attention and to be made fun of for being goth so they can talk about how bad life is....even though if they just acted normal it would be perfectly fine..
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#44 thegame458
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Yo just be yourself, stop trying to be all depressed for no reason. Freakin you might turn our crazy for being goth when you really don't want to be. Whose friends would want them to be gothic and anti-social, go to parties and have fun
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[QUOTE="ChipmunkDeluxe"]why would you want to turn goth?? The only people that look at you and think your cool are other people that dress gothic....the rest of the world just thinks your an idiot... i hate gothic people...theres no reason to be goth, they just want attention and to be made fun of for being goth so they can talk about how bad life is....even though if they just acted normal it would be perfectly fine..

And yet sometimes there life is THAT bad.
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#46 mmogoon
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I'm turning goth soon, my mates getting me a load of stuff and so far I want to be cyber, industrial but I've only heard of three different types of goth. I'm not asking you explain allof them to me, I'm asking is being cyber industrial a good idea or should I just forget the entire goth thing or should I go for a different style??? I need an honest opinion here :) pleasethe_tomboy
Oh god.
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#47 Def_Jef88
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Just do what you like best, thats what i did and now people are calling me emo but i like the person i am so it really doesent matter.
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#48 kyleali11
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forget the whole goth style, trust me :wink: