Neon-Tiger banned.

Then mods shouldn't ban people for ban dodging.MrPraline

[QUOTE="Lord_Daemon"]

Out of all the "so and so is banned" threads that I've seen this is the only one that saddens me greatly. Upon a quick review of the thread however, there does appear to be some hope that this is simply a misunderstanding and hopefully the clerical error can be rectified and Neon will be back soon. This is my hope at least.

Dracula68

[QUOTE="Lord_Daemon"]

Out of all the "so and so is banned" threads that I've seen this is the only one that saddens me greatly. Upon a quick review of the thread however, there does appear to be some hope that this is simply a misunderstanding and hopefully the clerical error can be rectified and Neon will be back soon. This is my hope at least.

Dracula68

I really used to trust the mods here now not so much. A good user was banned over that wow thats great.

He was a threat to our innocent minds.SolidSnake35

[QUOTE="Lord_Daemon"]

Out of all the "so and so is banned" threads that I've seen this is the only one that saddens me greatly. Upon a quick review of the thread however, there does appear to be some hope that this is simply a misunderstanding and hopefully the clerical error can be rectified and Neon will be back soon. This is my hope at least.

Dracula68

Not to get into an argument, but Funky didn't blame you specifically for it, and also, his post was ambiguous, yes, but I'mpretty darn sure everybody else in that thread took it in the opposite way to what the mod who banned him did. Granted it was worded poorly but a perma-ban for that is ridiculous. If you had evidence to support the theory that he was a BD'er then no complaints here, otherwise, well, you know my stance on it.

If we let him slide with how we worded it, then we will have to let whoever actually ban dodges slide if they word it the same way Neon-Tiger did. We have zero tolerance for ban dodgers. I am sorry that it happened, but it's not my fault he worded it incorrectly. He had time to fix it from the time he posted that sentence to the time he was banned. It's not only our fault we interpreted it that way, but it is also his fault for posting it the way that he did. And not everybody interpreted the way you did. horgen123 interpreted the way we did. We can't do anything about it now. If Neon-Tiger wants to be unbanned, then he has to go to customer support and get it fixed. That's final.ayanami_rei

My bad.

[QUOTE="Dracula68"][QUOTE="Lord_Daemon"]

Out of all the "so and so is banned" threads that I've seen this is the only one that saddens me greatly. Upon a quick review of the thread however, there does appear to be some hope that this is simply a misunderstanding and hopefully the clerical error can be rectified and Neon will be back soon. This is my hope at least.

Teenaged

Well now though there is a way to validate it by checking the IPs.

Teenaged

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Dracula68"] What error was made? I read the report and I would have done the same thing. There is no way for me to know who is serious or joking therefore I will ban people for saying they were banned previously or underage. Do NOT joke about these things if they are not fact because you will have one really, really hard time trying to convince Customer Support you were kidding.MAILER_DAEMON

If we let him slide with how we worded it, then we will have to let whoever actually ban dodges slide if they word it the same way Neon-Tiger did. ayanami_rei

[QUOTE="ayanami_rei"]What will you gain by ban dodging?Neon-Tiger

Man this banning is sparking some anger :? Avistann

no way! i really liked him.. he liked great music and ge was a really nice fella :(

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Dracula68"] What error was made? I read the report and I would have done the same thing. There is no way for me to know who is serious or joking therefore I will ban people for saying they were banned previously or underage. Do NOT joke about these things if they are not fact because you will have one really, really hard time trying to convince Customer Support you were kidding.MAILER_DAEMON

[QUOTE="Avistann"]Man this banning is sparking some anger :? FFCYAN

If we let him slide with how we worded it, then we will have to let whoever actually ban dodges slide if they word it the same way Neon-Tiger did. We have zero tolerance for ban dodgers. I am sorry that it happened, but it's not my fault he worded it incorrectly. He had time to fix it from the time he posted that sentence to the time he was banned. It's not only our fault we interpreted it that way, but it is also his fault for posting it the way that he did. And not everybody interpreted the way you did. horgen123 interpreted the way we did. We can't do anything about it now. If Neon-Tiger wants to be unbanned, then he has to go to customer support and get it fixed. That's final.ayanami_rei

As Llama said earlier, answering that question in the first person is grammatically correct, so it's obviously a case of ban first, ask questions later. I'd have thought it would have been wiser to have contacted the admins first to check if he was really a ban dodger; saves him time aswell, since CS can take months to reply...

super_mario_128

I have a feeling that this ban will go down in OT history.

Out of all the "so and so is banned" threads that I've seen this is the only one that saddens me greatly. Upon a quick review of the thread however, there does appear to be some hope that this is simply a misunderstanding and hopefully the clerical error can be rectified and Neon will be back soon. This is my hope at least.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Dracula68"] What error was made? I read the report and I would have done the same thing. There is no way for me to know who is serious or joking therefore I will ban people for saying they were banned previously or underage. Do NOT joke about these things if they are not fact because you will have one really, really hard time trying to convince Customer Support you were kidding.MAILER_DAEMON

Therefore practically there is no need to change IP if you are willing to behave the next time since no IP is checked upon the sign up unless its a banned IP.

So you can also get banned for wording sentences in ways the mods/admins don't like, isn't that just dandy???

:|

[QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"][QUOTE="KOTORkicker"] we can discuss here then. :PKOTORkicker

After the 'crap I just pulled'? get bent.

you walk around this place condescending to users and then asking why they have such a hatred of the mods, maybe you ought to turn around to yourself some day and ask yourself this: "what am I doing to make them respect me?" you're doing absolutely nothing to make them respect you. you garner hate, and you know why you garner it? because of things like this. things like 'the crap you just pulled'. I think you ought to re-evaluate what you're doing here; after so long as a mod I think you've gone on a bit of a power trip. and you know what? its totally unreasonable.

the reason people respect mods like duxup and hungry_bunny is because they're actually human and workable with. you walk around with a chip on your shoulder, almost as if you were an admin, for no reason (I am not saying in this that admins have a chip on their shoulder, what I'm saying is that admins and mods are two different ranks).

I'd respect how you handle matters if you were an admin; but you're not. your conduct is totally unsuitable for that of a mod. 'crap I just pulled'.. what? ugh. and yeah, for the people in this thread, I got modded with a point loss. simply for trying to keep the people here informed. not like mailer wants do that. :roll:

So you can also get banned for wording sentences in ways the mods/admins don't like, isn't that just dandy???

:|

black_cat19

I have a feeling that this ban will go down in OT history.

pvtdonut54

So you can also get banned for wording sentences in ways the mods/admins don't like, isn't that just dandy???

:|

[QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Well now though there is a way to validate it by checking the IPs.

Teenaged

Therefore practically there is no need to change IP if you are willing to behave the next time since no IP is checked upon the sign up unless its a banned IP.

There's no need to let anyone slide if the mods who have ban authority actually check to see if someone's ban-dodging. It just seems a little silly to ban someone because of a post that could have been misinterpreted. I don't know how long it would take to find out if someone is indeed ban-dodging but surely it'd be better to take the time to be sure about it.

elblanquito_81

[QUOTE="Lord_Daemon"]

Out of all the "so and so is banned" threads that I've seen this is the only one that saddens me greatly. Upon a quick review of the thread however, there does appear to be some hope that this is simply a misunderstanding and hopefully the clerical error can be rectified and Neon will be back soon. This is my hope at least.

Dracula68

Gosh its seem no matter how softly you word things on public forums somebody always finds a way to take offense. My post was being written before I had actually read the body from which his banning was inacted. I was simply going by the fact of his statement that he wasn't ban dodging and was banned for such. Taking Neon at his word I assumed a simple misunderstanding had occurred and hoped that after some communication with the Admins that this problem could be resolved and he could be restored. I was making no attempt to cast aspersions upon the administration or any mod in particular. The error I was referring to was nothing more than the occurance itself not anybody in particular.

[QUOTE="ayanami_rei"]

If we let him slide with how we worded it, then we will have to let whoever actually ban dodges slide if they word it the same way Neon-Tiger did. We have zero tolerance for ban dodgers. I am sorry that it happened, but it's not my fault he worded it incorrectly. He had time to fix it from the time he posted that sentence to the time he was banned. It's not only our fault we interpreted it that way, but it is also his fault for posting it the way that he did. And not everybody interpreted the way you did. horgen123 interpreted the way we did. We can't do anything about it now. If Neon-Tiger wants to be unbanned, then he has to go to customer support and get it fixed. That's final.elblanquito_81

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"] Eh? He wasn't joking though. He just addressed the question in first-person. People commonly do it.Dracula68

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"]

Not to get into an argument, but Funky didn't blame you specifically for it, and also, his post was ambiguous, yes, but I'mpretty darn sure everybody else in that thread took it in the opposite way to what the mod who banned him did. Granted it was worded poorly but a perma-ban for that is ridiculous. If you had evidence to support the theory that he was a BD'er then no complaints here, otherwise, well, you know my stance on it.

ayanami_rei

I have a feeling that this ban will go down in OT history.

pvtdonut54

So you can also get banned for wording sentences in ways the mods/admins don't like, isn't that just dandy???

:|

black_cat19

If he was stating it as if he was banned, then he should have said "Community privileges I got taken away IF I was banned."ayanami_rei

[QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Well now though there is a way to validate it by checking the IPs.

clyde46

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="ayanami_rei"] If we let him slide with how we worded it, then we will have to let whoever actually ban dodges slide if they word it the same way Neon-Tiger did. We have zero tolerance for ban dodgers. I am sorry that it happened, but it's not my fault he worded it incorrectly. He had time to fix it from the time he posted that sentence to the time he was banned. It's not only our fault we interpreted it that way, but it is also his fault for posting it the way that he did. And not everybody interpreted the way you did. horgen123 interpreted the way we did. We can't do anything about it now. If Neon-Tiger wants to be unbanned, then he has to go to customer support and get it fixed. That's final.Razor-Lazor

I've always felt liek saying something like that.cyberdarkkid

As have I. Though, I have an odd feeling in the pit of my stomach that soon enough, that post will be gone. :? Going through past experiences of my own, you can be suspended because a mod wants you to "drop your attitude."