New evidence suggest that Europeans were the first native people in America

If you've got a time machine handy, we could always just go back to those times and ask them how they did it.Smokescreened84

"You can't prove they didn't, so I'm right."

[QUOTE="Independentuk"]As a result of these factors the Solutrean (European originating) Native Americans were either partly absorbed by the newcomers or were substantially obliterated by them either physically or through competition for resources.HFkami

[QUOTE="The_Last_Ride"]Well isn't new to me, because Scandinavians were the first to discover america toworlock77

You do realize the Vikings landed in North America long after the Native Americans had settled it right?

vikings existed 8000 years ago?

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="The_Last_Ride"]Well isn't new to me, because Scandinavians were the first to discover america toPhaze-Two

You do realize the Vikings landed in North America long after the Native Americans had settled it right?

vikings existed 8000 years ago?

How in the blue f*ck did you get that out of my post?

:lol:

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="The_Last_Ride"]Well isn't new to me, because Scandinavians were the first to discover america toPhaze-Two

You do realize the Vikings landed in North America long after the Native Americans had settled it right?

vikings existed 8000 years ago?

Wut...

Yay, now nobody can whine about how america does not deserve their land

[QUOTE="gamerguru100"]

There isn't really any true native people in the Americas. Humans did not evolve in the Americas.

BossPerson

To sum up: "We've found some tools that are identical in design to contempary ones the other side of the atlantic ocean, and chemical analysis shows one tool came from rocks in france."

The article mentions a hypothesis by which the sea ice during the ice age provided a land bridge, more or less, that would have allowed travel with relatively primitive boats. I actually find this pretty interesting, so it's a shame to see this threadwander offdue to people seemingly not having read the article.

Although intriguing, this would simply mean that some neolithic european (the article suggests that they originated from france and iberia) peoplessettled for an unknown length of time on one region of the eastern coast of the united states. I would point out that these findings could be disputed, and that I wouldn't trust mainstream news sources as far as I could throw them when it comes to science/archeology, though the Independant doesn't have too bad reputation as far as I know.

[QUOTE="Smokescreened84"]

You would be surprised. Native Americans were there for centuries, exactly how long is unknown, but they were there for a long time before the Europeans arrived. And farther north the Eskimo culture was in that country for a long time and still are. Chinese and Japanese beliefs hold that when their cultures migrated to those lands it was centuries ago.

There have been humans in many areas of the world for a very long time, it's pretty clear that humans migrated around the lands as they drifted apart.

Humans may be more lazy and incapable of barely walking to the bathroom without complaining that it's too much effort in this day and age, but back then humans were go-getters who went where better hunting prospects could be found.

toast_burner

The question we're asking here is how Europeans got there.

Well, it's most likely that all humans originated from the same basic place so we're all related.

There's another growing theory, as well. It's the Siberian origin hypothesis. Perhaps it's actually both.BranKetra

[QUOTE="BranKetra"]There's another growing theory, as well. It's the Siberian origin hypothesis. Perhaps it's actually both.sonicare

[QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

You do realize the Vikings landed in North America long after the Native Americans had settled it right?

Hatiko

vikings existed 8000 years ago?

Wut...

for some reason i read "after" as "before"

the words look just alike you have to admit.

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="BranKetra"]There's another growing theory, as well. It's the Siberian origin hypothesis. Perhaps it's actually both.BranKetra

I have never heard anyone state that theory. I think your professor's full of it to be honest.

Who gives a f*ck about who came first? Does it really change anything?ghoklebutter

It matters to some people who wish to assert European origin and superiority in everything they can think of.

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]Who gives a f*ck about who came first? Does it really change anything?worlock77

It matters to some people who wish to assert European origin and superiority in everything they can think of.

How does the slaughter of early Europeans that came to America indicate that they're superior?

This was being debated?mrmusicman247

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]Who gives a f*ck about who came first? Does it really change anything?SpartanMSU

It matters to some people who wish to assert European origin and superiority in everything they can think of.

How does the slaughter of early Europeans that came to America indicate that they're superior?

I did not say that it did.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="Smokescreened84"]

You would be surprised. Native Americans were there for centuries, exactly how long is unknown, but they were there for a long time before the Europeans arrived. And farther north the Eskimo culture was in that country for a long time and still are. Chinese and Japanese beliefs hold that when their cultures migrated to those lands it was centuries ago.

There have been humans in many areas of the world for a very long time, it's pretty clear that humans migrated around the lands as they drifted apart.

Humans may be more lazy and incapable of barely walking to the bathroom without complaining that it's too much effort in this day and age, but back then humans were go-getters who went where better hunting prospects could be found.

HFkami

The question we're asking here is how Europeans got there.

columbus was the first to discover america.... and yes he was european.

columbus was the first to discover america.... and yes he was european.

SauceKing

columbus was the first to discover america.... and yes he was european.

SauceKing

The Vikings beat Columbus by a few centuries, and Natives beat them by a few thousand years.

[QUOTE="SauceKing"]

columbus was the first to discover america.... and yes he was european.

gamerguru100

Furthermore he actually wanted to get to the far east, epic fail! Also Columbus never set his foot on North America.

Well, it's most likely that all humans originated from the same basic place so we're all related.

sonicare

[QUOTE="sonicare"]

Well, it's most likely that all humans originated from the same basic place so we're all related.

HFkami

well they definitely took the name football and turned it into something else