New York fast food workers to strike. Demand $15 an hour...

Since when did working at a fast food joint become a career.  

From the article: 

The group is asking employers to pay workers a minimum of $15 an hour, and for the right to organize without retaliation and intimidation. Currently, the median pay for the nearly 50,000 fast food workers in New York City is $9 an hour, or $18,500 a year, according to the New York Labor Department. That's about $4,500 lower than Census Bureau's poverty income threshold level of $23,000 for a family of four.

They can get McFu*ked.

They're working an entry-paying job that should usually be reserved for teens or college students. :|

As much as I sympathize with their struggle, they need to find a better paying job. Or perhaps save up and go to vocational school or community college so that it may help them find a better, more suitable career.

Inflation would not be fun if they got what they wanted.

>feeling of indifference

I know things work differently in the US with tips and all, but the full-time mimimum wage here for 20 year olds and up is over $15 per hour, so whatever...

Time to get a better job then. Survival of the fittest. 

They aren't going to get $15 an hour. They'll probably be talked down to a more reasonable 10-11 an hour, if they aren't all fired. Nobody can talk their way to a 60% pay increase. Nobody. 

They're being ridiculous. Everyone knows that fast food jobs have horrible pay.

There are plenty of jobs with better advancement prospects than fast food. Its a little harder to find them in the current economy ,but its possible . Anyone going into the fast food industry and expecting to become rich is delusional.

They're being ridiculous. Everyone knows that fast food jobs have horrible pay.

There are plenty of jobs with better advancement prospects than fast food. Its a little harder to find them in the current economy ,but its possible . Anyone going into the fast food industry and expecting to become rich is delusional.

UnknownSniper65

[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

They're being ridiculous. Everyone knows that fast food jobs have horrible pay.

There are plenty of jobs with better advancement prospects than fast food. Its a little harder to find them in the current economy ,but its possible . Anyone going into the fast food industry and expecting to become rich is delusional.

-Sun_Tzu-

You can't take a crap job and expect anything ,but crap pay.

yeah, demand that when you are working on a fast food chain, dream on and get another job.

Wow that's quite a jump.

Anyway the demand is a deliberate tactic, plain and simple. Odds are they will settle on something in the $9-11 range.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

They're being ridiculous. Everyone knows that fast food jobs have horrible pay.

There are plenty of jobs with better advancement prospects than fast food. Its a little harder to find them in the current economy ,but its possible . Anyone going into the fast food industry and expecting to become rich is delusional.

UnknownSniper65

You can't take a crap job and expect anything ,but crap pay.

LOL

Kids in this thread are ridiculous, the workers at the bottom are the ones who support those higher than them, society would go no where without these people, so don't cry when they ask for a little more especially when living in expensive NY, and I love those who tell them to just get a better job, yeah it's as simple as that right? You kids up in here need a reality check... I swear.

Kids in this thread are ridiculous, the workers at the bottom are the ones who support those higher than them, society would go no where without these people, so don't cry when they ask for a little more especially when living in expensive NY, and I love those who tell them to just get a better job, yeah it's as simple as that right? You kids up in here need a reality check... I swear.

GD1551

Do you happen to work in fast food?

$15 an hour for working fast food? :lol:

Do these people realize how STUPID they sound?

Go get a real job. Fast food jobs are minimum pay for being an entry level job requiring no skills and are braindead easy. I would know having 3 years experience working fast food.

Instead, maybe these people should find a way to actually advance themselves so they can get BETTER jobs!

I took a 2 week CNA course that cost $650 to go from working an $8.50 an hour laundary job at the nursing home facility I work at, to the $10 an hour CNA job which I have gotten like 3 raises since then (and that is still low pay for the CNA profession). My job paid for that training though, and even if they hadn't there are things through the state (not sure if New Yourk has it though...) where they will re-imburse you the money once you get your certification.

I am sorry, but with how easy fast food jobs are and the zero skill required, I really can't feel sorry for these people (especially when they seem to be making MORE than what I had been making when working fast food) when they go and ask for such ridiculous pay.

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Kids in this thread are ridiculous, the workers at the bottom are the ones who support those higher than them, society would go no where without these people, so don't cry when they ask for a little more especially when living in expensive NY, and I love those who tell them to just get a better job, yeah it's as simple as that right? You kids up in here need a reality check... I swear.

Necrifer

Do you happen to work in fast food?

No I work in a law firm, do you happen to be 12?

Nice, good for them. Hopefully they achieve something.

[QUOTE="Necrifer"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Kids in this thread are ridiculous, the workers at the bottom are the ones who support those higher than them, society would go no where without these people, so don't cry when they ask for a little more especially when living in expensive NY, and I love those who tell them to just get a better job, yeah it's as simple as that right? You kids up in here need a reality check... I swear.

GD1551

Do you happen to work in fast food?

No I work in a law firm, do you happen to be 12?

Inspired comeback

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

They're being ridiculous. Everyone knows that fast food jobs have horrible pay.

There are plenty of jobs with better advancement prospects than fast food. Its a little harder to find them in the current economy ,but its possible . Anyone going into the fast food industry and expecting to become rich is delusional.

UnknownSniper65

You can't take a crap job and expect anything ,but crap pay.

Since when did working at a fast food joint become a career.  

From the article: 

The group is asking employers to pay workers a minimum of $15 an hour, and for the right to organize without retaliation and intimidation. Currently, the median pay for the nearly 50,000 fast food workers in New York City is $9 an hour, or $18,500 a year, according to the New York Labor Department. That's about $4,500 lower than Census Bureau's poverty income threshold level of $23,000 for a family of four.

junglist101

If you are trying to support a family of four working at Wendy's then you f-cked up and made sh-tty choices in life.

[QUOTE="Necrifer"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Kids in this thread are ridiculous, the workers at the bottom are the ones who support those higher than them, society would go no where without these people, so don't cry when they ask for a little more especially when living in expensive NY, and I love those who tell them to just get a better job, yeah it's as simple as that right? You kids up in here need a reality check... I swear.

GD1551

Do you happen to work in fast food?

No I work in a law firm, do you happen to be 12?

You seem mature.  Clearly this discussion will only head in the best of places.

ROFL

Well I hear New York does do good fast-food...

[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] None of the workers striking are expecting to get rich working fast food. This is a ridiculous characterization of what they're trying to achieve. -Sun_Tzu-

You can't take a crap job and expect anything ,but crap pay.

I agree.  The workers should be able to organize and negotiate.  The employer should also be able to fire employees for whatever reason they want.  The idea should be "yes, you can organize and we can have discussions, but if you don't show up to work then YOU ARE GONE."

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

You can't take a crap job and expect anything ,but crap pay.

hoola

I agree.  The workers should be able to organize and negotiate.  The employer should also be able to fire employees for whatever reason they want.  The idea should be "yes, you can organize and we can have discussions, but if you don't show up to work then YOU ARE GONE."

I am always amazed how angry people get whenever someone else tries to negotiate better wages for themselves. Every employee should be trying to get better working conditions. Whats wrong with trying? No wonder the lower and middle class is struggling so much. Somehow we have turned into a country of management and wealth sympathizers.

 

"Oh no. These peasants are trying to get better pay from their bosses in a billion dollar industry so they can go from being way under the poverty line to only being slightly below the poverty line. Oh dear God the humanity. What is this world coming too!!!"

 

Some of you guys are so ignorant of the real world.Diablo-B

People here seem to lack empathy and humanity for ones who are worse off. It's sad

[QUOTE="hoola"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] What an uninspiring rationalization of the status quo. All these workers are trying to do is organize so they can effectively negotiate for better wages and workplace conditions. How does that deserve ridicule? -Sun_Tzu-

I agree.  The workers should be able to organize and negotiate.  The employer should also be able to fire employees for whatever reason they want.  The idea should be "yes, you can organize and we can have discussions, but if you don't show up to work then YOU ARE GONE."

[QUOTE="Diablo-B"]I am always amazed how angry people get whenever someone else tries to negotiate better wages for themselves. Every employee should be trying to get better working conditions. Whats wrong with trying? No wonder the lower and middle class is struggling so much. Somehow we have turned into a country of management and wealth sympathizers.

 

"Oh no. These peasants are trying to get better pay from their bosses in a billion dollar industry so they can go from being way under the poverty line to only being slightly below the poverty line. Oh dear God the humanity. What is this world coming too!!!"

 

Some of you guys are so ignorant of the real world.Aljosa23

People here seem to lack empathy and humanity for ones who are worse off. It's sad

It is a matter of the decisions someone has made in their life.  It is possible for a young single person to live a decent life (financially) working a minimum or near minimum wage job for 30-40 hours a week.  There are houses all around the USA for $20,000.  The mortgage on that could be as low as $150 a month.  Add electric, gas, car loan/insurance, and food and you might be up to $600 or $700 a month if you live frugally.  That is just over $7000 a year on the necessities and if we assume they only make $12,000 a year (a very low estimate) then that is $4800 that can be spent on other things like Health Insurance.  Here is an example of a family living on $14,000 per year, although, their fugality is extreme and they have paid off their house and cars.  http://www.blissfulanddomestic.com/2012/06/how-does-she-live-on-budget.html

[QUOTE="Diablo-B"]I am always amazed how angry people get whenever someone else tries to negotiate better wages for themselves. Every employee should be trying to get better working conditions. Whats wrong with trying? No wonder the lower and middle class is struggling so much. Somehow we have turned into a country of management and wealth sympathizers.

 

"Oh no. These peasants are trying to get better pay from their bosses in a billion dollar industry so they can go from being way under the poverty line to only being slightly below the poverty line. Oh dear God the humanity. What is this world coming too!!!"

 

Some of you guys are so ignorant of the real world.Aljosa23

People here seem to lack empathy and humanity for ones who are worse off. It's sad

Agreed, this thread is a perfect example of why the U.S is in such a shitty situation right now and why it will never be fixed.

[QUOTE="hoola"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] What an uninspiring rationalization of the status quo. All these workers are trying to do is organize so they can effectively negotiate for better wages and workplace conditions. How does that deserve ridicule? -Sun_Tzu-

I agree.  The workers should be able to organize and negotiate.  The employer should also be able to fire employees for whatever reason they want.  The idea should be "yes, you can organize and we can have discussions, but if you don't show up to work then YOU ARE GONE."

No offense to these workers, but their skills are not worth that much. You have people who hold more responsibilities with other companies making that much money an hour. CongressManStan

Stand up for the working class and never stand up for the ruling class. They do anything to weaken the worker. Unions have given us much better human rights at the work place. But the cooperation's have sadly brain washed a lot of people to think they are bad.

Seems silly to me; fast food workers are easy to come by.