NFL bans all non-transparent bags from the stadiums (ban includes purses).

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#1 NEWMAHAY
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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/22404404/nfl-implements-new-bag-policy-leave-the-purses-at-home

 

It goes into effect with the 2013 season.

 

 

Example of an acceptable bag

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Its a huge policy change and the policy change seems to be influenced by the Boston bombings.

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Gonna make it even harder to get wives to go to games now. Not sure this is a good move...or maybe it is.

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#5 Nibroc420
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Could someone take a purse, put it into that clear bag, and then claim it's a clear bag?
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#6 xXCombatWombat
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Could someone take a purse, put it into that clear bag, and then claim it's a clear bag?Nibroc420

Hahah have we already found a loophole? 

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#7 Swanogt19
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Interesting. I can only think this will hurt ticket sales or the female audience. Or both.
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]Could someone take a purse, put it into that clear bag, and then claim it's a clear bag?xXCombatWombat

Hahah have we already found a loophole? 

She'd be carrying a clear bag, there'd just be a purse inside the bag. And if that doesn't work, are you allowed to bring in outside food/drink? Chip bags aren't clear last i checked.
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Non-issue. People who bring bags to stadiums and put them in between the aisle are scumbags anyway.

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#11 JML897
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The alternative to this is a thorough search of every bag which would make it so you'd have to wait in line outside the stadium for a really, really long time. I have no problem with banning these bags outright
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terrorists 1 - Murica 0
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#13 dercoo
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Corporations 1 - Murica 0BossPerson

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[QUOTE="BossPerson"] Corporations 1 - Murica 0dercoo

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What's your alternative plan? Same question for BossPerson.
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#16 BossPerson
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it was sort of tongue in cheek, but i think people should be able to carry bags and purses at stadiums, it's not like there was some huge problems with dozens being killed at stadiums every year.
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#17 dercoo
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[QUOTE="dercoo"]

[QUOTE="BossPerson"] Corporations 1 - Murica 0JML897

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What's your alternative plan? Same question for BossPerson.

Keep old policies, check any bag large enough to fit a presser cooker.

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#18 JML897
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it was sort of tongue in cheek, but i think people should be able to carry bags and purses at stadiums, it's not like there was some huge problems with dozens being killed at stadiums every year. BossPerson
All it takes is one attack and then people would ask why there weren't more precautions.
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#20 JML897
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[QUOTE="JML897"][QUOTE="dercoo"]

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What's your alternative plan? Same question for BossPerson.

Keep old policies, check any bag large enough to fit a presser cooker.

You want to thoroughly check that many people? LOL

You'd have to get to the stadium by 4 PM in order to get in by 7. Fuuuuuuck that. What they're doing is far more convenient than your idea.

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This is silly.  We don't need more rules.  

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#22 NEWMAHAY
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While I see why they did it, I am still on the fence about the issue. Either way, I never bring bags to games
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#23 BossPerson
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"]it was sort of tongue in cheek, but i think people should be able to carry bags and purses at stadiums, it's not like there was some huge problems with dozens being killed at stadiums every year. JML897
All it takes is one attack and then people would ask why there weren't more precautions.

price of freedom..... there are sooooo many places where people could bring explosives and such. Shopping malls, buses, movie theaters, restaurants,, etc should there be pat downs or metal detectors there? Should you be prohibited from bringing a purse or bag?
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#24 Slow_Show
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Not to get too tin foil hat-y, but this sounds more like a scheme to cut down on outside food and drink than anything else. I don't think I've ever been to a sporting event or concert where bag checks were significantly holding up the entry line.

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Wonder whatever happened to non-invasive bag checks?
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#27 BossPerson
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[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="JML897"] All it takes is one attack and then people would ask why there weren't more precautions.

price of freedom..... there are sooooo many places where people could bring explosives and such. Shopping malls, buses, movie theaters, restaurants,, etc should there be pat downs or metal detectors there? Should you be prohibited from bringing a purse or bag?

No one has the freedom to carry something into a private event that the operators of the event don't wish to have at their event. Ignorance FTL.

hmm, never thought about the private property aspect of this, but we are talking about the justification they are using that its to increase safety and such. They can do w/e they want, but the question is :do they have a reasonable and rational justification?
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No one has the freedom to carry something into a private event that the operators of the event don't wish to have at their event. Ignorance FTL. thegerg
Malls are private property that see foot traffic on the order of tens of thousands a day. Setting off a bomb there could take as many lives as were lost in 9/11. The agoraphobics shouldn't be allowed to run society.
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I will try this the pc way. Do not blame the NFL blame those WONDERFUL MAYBE TERRORIST MISGUIDED YOUNGSTERS in boston. And remember, its not just foreign, what they did has probably inspired domestics and school shooter types, so yes I would say this is a needed precaution.
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I will try this the pc way. Do not blame the NFL blame those WONDERFUL MAYBE TERRORIST MISGUIDED YOUNGSTERS in boston. And remember, its not just foreign, what they did has probably inspired domestics and school shooter types, so yes I would say this is a needed precaution.mattykovax
You know what is better than this? Proper screening and treatment for mental illness.
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[QUOTE="thegerg"]No one has the freedom to carry something into a private event that the operators of the event don't wish to have at their event. Ignorance FTL. foxhound_fox
Malls are private property that see foot traffic on the order of tens of thousands a day. Setting off a bomb there could take as many lives as were lost in 9/11. The agoraphobics shouldn't be allowed to run society.

9/11 involved large towers, much bigger than any mall. Chances are there was more people in the top 10 stories than in your average mall. Malls also aren't broadcast live, unlike the NFL. If a Bomb were to go off in a stadium on live TV, it would result in far more panic and chaos than a bomb in a shopping mall.
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They don't run society. thegerg
It may only seem like they do then.
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Malls also aren't broadcast live, unlike the NFL. If a Bomb were to go off in a stadium on live TV, it would result in far more panic and chaos than a bomb in a shopping mall.Nibroc420
Proof? I was a mall cop for a few years and saw sheer panic resulting from a false fire alarm. The mob mentality takes effect anywhere and everywhere... and as soon as one person starts to panic, it spreads like wildfire. A live event has no bearing on the reaction to an incident.
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[QUOTE="mattykovax"]I will try this the pc way. Do not blame the NFL blame those WONDERFUL MAYBE TERRORIST MISGUIDED YOUNGSTERS in boston. And remember, its not just foreign, what they did has probably inspired domestics and school shooter types, so yes I would say this is a needed precaution.foxhound_fox
You know what is better than this? Proper screening and treatment for mental illness.

Which we both know will never happen. Might have helped with those two dingbats. I still believe they latched on to a cause to excuse their behaviour to themselves, but silly me what do I know......
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I can't stand security measures which will literally accomplish nothing. If a person wants to bomb a football stadium they will not abandon that plan because they dont have a non see through bag to carry it in. Idiocy.
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]Could someone take a purse, put it into that clear bag, and then claim it's a clear bag?xXCombatWombat

Hahah have we already found a loophole? 

They'll need an "Inception" clause put in the rules to counter the bag within a bag within another bag etc...
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]Malls also aren't broadcast live, unlike the NFL. If a Bomb were to go off in a stadium on live TV, it would result in far more panic and chaos than a bomb in a shopping mall.foxhound_fox
Proof? I was a mall cop for a few years and saw sheer panic resulting from a false fire alarm. The mob mentality takes effect anywhere and everywhere... and as soon as one person starts to panic, it spreads like wildfire. A live event has no bearing on the reaction to an incident.

The thing about a bomb on live TV is instead of only a few hundred people seeing it and getting second hand information on the news, if a bomb went off during the Super Bowl over half of the country would have saw it and would have been in a panic. Also, in a stadium people will be more tightly together than in a mall. A bomb that may only kill a dozen people in a mall could potentially kill hundreds, if not thousands if placed well enough in the stands from the initial explosion and countless more from being trampled by fleeing patrons.

In all honesty, there is no real reason to have a large bag in a stadium in the first place. Most places prohibit bringing outside food or drink, so it isn't like you need it to bring your own refreshments. If you have a medical condition that requires you to bring large items with you chances are you shouldn't be in a closed space. If you are bringing a baby having a clear bag with their diapers and formula shouldn't be an issue.
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Stupid.

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I would like to thank muslims for this, the TSA, censorship, and surveillance. We have truly been culturally enriched. 

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I would like to thank muslims for this, the TSA, censorship, and surveillance. We have truly been culturally enriched. 

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Dont say that, I got modded.....
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[QUOTE="PWSteal_Ldpinch"]

I would like to thank muslims for this, the TSA, censorship, and surveillance. We have truly been culturally enriched. 

mattykovax

Dont say that, I got modded.....

It's the truth man. Muslims got exactly what they wanted. They want us to live in fear and forgo our freedoms for their demands. Can't even make a youtube video mocking their pedophile prophet anymore without the president personally calling you and urging you to desist.

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I think people should be able to carry bags and purses at stadiums, it's not like there was some huge problems with dozens being killed at stadiums every year. BossPerson
Yeah but now we've let muslims into the country.

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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/22404404/nfl-implements-new-bag-policy-leave-the-purses-at-home

 

It goes into effect with the 2013 season.

 

 

Example of an acceptable bag

tumblr_mocobuIpY81rge74zo1_500.jpg

 

Its a huge policy change and the policy change seems to be influenced by the Boston bombings.

NEWMAHAY

Ah-ha-hah, what a brilliant marketing scheme Mr. Goodell!  "Yes, you can only bring certain bags into stadiums because of security reasons.  Here is a good example of an acceptable bag, a beautiful piece of handiwork actually, functional and stylish, and with your favorite team's logo right on the front.  If you call within the next hour you can get this fine product for only $19.95 plus shipping and handling!  Again, we're doing this purely for security reasons."

Anyways, this is a derp move.  Last sports game I went to everyone had to open their bags and show the contents anyways, this is clearly an overreaction (pun intended).

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"]Malls also aren't broadcast live, unlike the NFL. If a Bomb were to go off in a stadium on live TV, it would result in far more panic and chaos than a bomb in a shopping mall.ad1x2
Proof? I was a mall cop for a few years and saw sheer panic resulting from a false fire alarm. The mob mentality takes effect anywhere and everywhere... and as soon as one person starts to panic, it spreads like wildfire. A live event has no bearing on the reaction to an incident.

The thing about a bomb on live TV is instead of only a few hundred people seeing it and getting second hand information on the news, if a bomb went off during the Super Bowl over half of the country would have saw it and would have been in a panic. Also, in a stadium people will be more tightly together than in a mall. A bomb that may only kill a dozen people in a mall could potentially kill hundreds, if not thousands if placed well enough in the stands from the initial explosion and countless more from being trampled by fleeing patrons.

 

In all honesty, there is no real reason to have a large bag in a stadium in the first place. Most places prohibit bringing outside food or drink, so it isn't like you need it to bring your own refreshments. If you have a medical condition that requires you to bring large items with you chances are you shouldn't be in a closed space. If you are bringing a baby having a clear bag with their diapers and formula shouldn't be an issue.

I remember 9/11 and people weren't in a panic, at least not where I was.  People were shocked, yeah, but it's not like everyone suddenly went around screaming and rioting.

Women bring their purses everywhere with them and they keep private items in them.  People also like to bring cameras, blankets, sunscreen, glasses, and other items with them.  It's an overreaction that inconviences everyone for no good reason.

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Not sure how I feel about this.  I admit that I've gone to quite a few NFL games and always thought they'd be pretty easy and prime targets for any sort of act of terrorism.  There is security, but it's not generally incredible.  I guess this change will make it harder for such an act.  On the flip side the NFL probably aready has enough trouble getting most women to NFL games, and so I'm unsure about how this will go over.

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I am undecided about this.
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Just a ploy for higher concession sales. Has nothing to do with security.

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Not sure how I feel about this.  I admit that I've gone to quite a few NFL games and always thought they'd be pretty easy and prime targets for any sort of act of terrorism.  There is security, but it's not generally incredible.  I guess this change will make it harder for such an act.  On the flip side the NFL probably aready has enough trouble getting most women to NFL games, and so I'm unsure about how this will go over.

TacticalDesire

I see that as one of the big sticking points.  If it were just making bags and not purses clear then I think a lot of people would be fine with it, but women carry around a lot of things that they don't want the rest of the world seeing in their purses.  I think a lot of people will adapt, but this will be a huge problem for others.

The problem is that it's probably not going to change because of that.  It's hard to measure exactly how many ticket sales you're losing from this sort of thing.  As long as you don't see a huge dropoff they can just ignore it, but the number of people turned off by this could still be thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands each year.  The NFL could lose all their potential sales out of that group and still brush it off as insignificant.

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It sucks but it's a reasonable approach to secure such a large space that would be considered a high value target for terrorists.