Norway Killings: The laughing gunman who killed 85 victims

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As seen on The Telegraph

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8657475/Norway-killings-The-laughing-gunman-who-shot-85-young-victims-one-by-one.html

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"The full horror of Anders Behring Breivik's killing rampage emerged on Saturday as Norway entered a period of national mourning.

The country's prime minister said Breivik had turned a "paradise into hell".

The 32-year-old Norwegian was being interrogated by police on Saturday night amid growing concern that he may not have acted alone. Police were poring through his home computer for links to other extremists and terrorist groups.

The killer set off a massive car bomb on Friday afternoon in the centre of Oslo's political district, killing seven people.

He then drove to the island of Utoya where he continued his rampage.

The confirmed death toll on the island yesterday was 85. However, police said last night the final total could rise to 98 as the search for missing teenagers continued.

His defence lawyer Geir ­Lippestad last night said of Breivik: "He has said that he believed the actions were atrocious, but that in his head they were necessary."

On Saturday night a video emerged in which the killer, posing with weapons, appears to set out his motivation for the attacks, calling for the eradication of Islam and Marxism from Europe.

Breivik shot several teenagers as they tried to swim off the island to safety. Police teams were searching the water and rocky inlets looking for more corpses.

A mini-submarine was called in to help the search for bodies, along with divers.

Survivors told how they hid under bunk beds, behind rocks and in cabins as Breivik, dressed as a police officer, beckoned the youths to him, promising them safety. Youngsters who fell for his ploy were shot in cold blood. Survivors told how they had heard people plead for mercy. Thorbjørn Vereide, 22, who ran away and hid in a cave, said: "He seemed very focused. He took his time and picked victims out one by one. People lay on the ground, and he went over them and shot them in the back. He shot them all twice to make sure they were dead.

"He kept shouting: 'It's safe to come out. You'll be saved. I'm a cop.'"

Nicoline Bjerge Schie, 21, who cowered behind a rock near the beach, said: "I could not see the gunman but I heard him screaming and laughing and he gave several cheers."

She watched at least five of her friends being hit by the gunman's bullets and watched as the bodies tumbled off the rock and into the lake.

Adrian Pracon, 21, who was shot in the shoulder, said from his hospital bed: "He was yelling out that he was going to kill us all and that we all must die." Mr Pracon played dead but survived."He tried everyone, he kicked them to see if they were alive, or he just shot them," he said.

Erik Kursetgjerde, an 18-year-old Labour Party youth member, said Breivik "would tell people to come over: 'It's OK, you're safe, we're coming to help you.' And then I saw about 20 people come towards him and he shot them at close range."

Edvard Foernes, 16, said the gunman walked through the camp, saying: "Come out and play with me. Don't be shy."

Rescuers told of the agonising decisions they had to make as they headed to the island in boats to collect children trying to swim to safety.

Torill Hansen, who was camping nearby, said: "I could only take 10 people in the boat and even with that many it was nearly capsizing. Having to decide who to take was horrible."

Breivik surrendered to an armed, specialist police unit which said it had arrived on the scene about 40 minutes after being called out by youngsters at the camp, organised by the youth wing of Norway's ruling Labour Party. By then, Breivik, who had two guns when he was arrested, had been shooting for 90 minutes without anybody able to stop him.

Breivik, who surrendered without firing a shot, had undergone military training as part of his compulsory national service and held licences for two weapons including a Glock semi-automatic pistol.

He was also a member of Oslo's Masonic lodge and posted pictures of himself on the internet in the masonic regalia.

A keen body builder and gun enthusiast, he had held several positions in one of Norway's biggest political parties, the Right-wing Progress Party, from 1999 to 2007.

His views had become increasingly extreme in recent years and he had been seen by neighbours wearing paramilitary uniform.

Writing on the internet, he cited his hatred for Muslims and enthusiasm for the English Defence League. On the social networking site Twitter Breivik posted a quote on July 17 by the English philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100,000 who have only interests."

It emerged on Saturday he had run a farming business and only 10 weeks ago had bought six tons of artificial fertiliser, which he is believed to have used to make the car bomb that was detonated in Oslo's political district.

The suppliers thought nothing of selling such an amount to a farm businessman. After the bomb exploded, it appears Breivik drove a silver-grey van to Utoya. The van, recovered by police on Saturday, also contained explosives.

Acting Police Chief Sveinung Sponheim said: "It's very difficult at this point to say if he was acting alone or if he was part of a larger network."

Police have refused to name the victims but said two members of the government were killed in the blast. Norway's royal family and prime minister led the nation in mourning on Saturday, visiting grieving relatives of the dead youths.

Oslo Cathedral became home to a makeshift shrine with hundreds going there to lay flowers and light candles.

Fighting back the tears, Jens Stoltenberg, the prime minister, said: "It was a paradise of my youth that has now been turned into hell."

King Harald said: "I'm horrified at the rising toll of fatalities. In the midst of this all we have seen a prime minister handling the situation in a remarkable way."

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#2 tofu-lion91
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Nicoline Bjerge Schie, 21, who cowered behind a rock near the beachface_ripper

Not liking the choice of words there. Such a tragedy, was shocked to hear about this on the news.

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I thought your signature was part of your post for a second.
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[QUOTE="face_ripper"]Nicoline Bjerge Schie, 21, who cowered behind a rock near the beachtofu-lion91

Not liking the choice of words there. Such a tragedy, was shocked to hear about this on the news.

Yeah.. wtf? "Cowered behind a rock..."
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#5 MAZ85
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The laughing gunman who killed 85 victims wasn't a muslim ...
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I thought your signature was part of your post for a second.MushroomWig
Hahahahahahah yeah same This dude is nuts. I can't believe he can only get 21 years in jail too
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I thought your signature was part of your post for a second.MushroomWig
Its very misleading, i got moderated because a moderater though I was trolling :P but OT to tufo-lion91: It wasn't my choice of words. But i don't think thats called cowering since he had to face an armed person.
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I bet Muslims will be up in arms when they hear his motives... Oh the double standards.

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[QUOTE="face_ripper"]Nicoline Bjerge Schie, 21, who cowered behind a rock near the beachtofu-lion91

Not liking the choice of words there. Such a tragedy, was shocked to hear about this on the news.

I didn't think much when I read that sentence, but now when I think of that it sounds horrible considering the guy writing this article is just sitting behind his computer drinking coffee.

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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"]I thought your signature was part of your post for a second.face_ripper
Its very misleading, i got moderated because a moderater though I was trolling :P but OT to tufo-lion91: It wasn't my choice of words. But i don't think thats called cowering since he had to face an armed person.

I believe hiding would be a better replacement...

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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"]I thought your signature was part of your post for a second.Toriko42
Hahahahahahah yeah same This dude is nuts. I can't believe he can only get 21 years in jail too

What's this about only 21 years?
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cowered is fine wording to me. Making it seem like it meant to say he was a coward is not the intention.
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="MushroomWig"]I thought your signature was part of your post for a second.FrostyPhantasm
Hahahahahahah yeah same This dude is nuts. I can't believe he can only get 21 years in jail too

What's this about only 21 years?

21 years is the maximum sentence in Norway.
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cowered is fine wording to me. Making it seem like it meant to say he was a coward is not the intention.PleatedDreamer
But cowering is what cowards do. HIDING or staying out of sight is what someone who isn't a trained combatant would do in the face of an armed adversary. It was not their DUTY to fight, therefore 'shirking' that, does not make it cowering.

Nonetheless, I understand the usage of the word. Would've been better if they'd just said hid in fear or whatnot though.

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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"][QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"][QUOTE="Toriko42"] Hahahahahahah yeah same This dude is nuts. I can't believe he can only get 21 years in jail too

What's this about only 21 years?

21 years is the maximum sentence in Norway.

What. Well that's disheartening..
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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"][QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"] What's this about only 21 years?FrostyPhantasm
21 years is the maximum sentence in Norway.

What. Well that's disheartening..

Also, check out the place he may be going; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj3SMiDvjdg
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[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"][QUOTE="Toriko42"] Hahahahahahah yeah same This dude is nuts. I can't believe he can only get 21 years in jail tooMushroomWig
What's this about only 21 years?

21 years is the maximum sentence in Norway.

For killing that many, he should be excuted, or a life sentence.
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="MushroomWig"]I thought your signature was part of your post for a second.FrostyPhantasm
Hahahahahahah yeah same This dude is nuts. I can't believe he can only get 21 years in jail too

What's this about only 21 years?

I hear it's the maximum sentence you can get in glorious Norway.

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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"][QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"] What's this about only 21 years?face_ripper
21 years is the maximum sentence in Norway.

For killing that many, he should be excuted, or a life sentence.

Or give him to the Muslims he hates so much and let them take care of him.
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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"][QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"][QUOTE="MushroomWig"] 21 years is the maximum sentence in Norway.

What. Well that's disheartening..

Also, check out the place he may be going; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj3SMiDvjdg

:lol: Wooooow, "No matter what you've done, you should get a second chance" YUUUUUP, killing 98 kids deserves a second chance when you do it with having military training and laughing the whole time. Judging by that video i wouldn't be surprised if they gave him guns and dolls to shoot at.
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[QUOTE="face_ripper"] Its very misleading, i got moderated because a moderater though I was trolling :P but OT to tufo-lion91: It wasn't my choice of words. But i don't think thats called cowering since he had to face an armed person.

I know - it was a jab at the journalist who wrote that article.
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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"]I thought your signature was part of your post for a second.Toriko42
Hahahahahahah yeah same This dude is nuts. I can't believe he can only get 21 years in jail too

He can get custody for life...
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[QUOTE="PleatedDreamer"]cowered is fine wording to me. Making it seem like it meant to say he was a coward is not the intention.th3warr1or

But cowering is what cowards do. HIDING or staying out of sight is what someone who isn't a trained combatant would do in the face of an armed adversary. It was not their DUTY to fight, therefore 'shirking' that, does not make it cowering.

Nonetheless, I understand the usage of the word. Would've been better if they'd just said hid in fear or whatnot though.

Do not see why hide in fear would be any different from cowered(which does not mean to hide like a coward).
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I feel sick every time I read more about this.

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Wow 21 years? Norway seriously has to revise that and add a freakin life sentence. What he did was bad and he should not be allowed back into society after that. I'm also thinking that it might be possible it was part of a larger network since I'd hope no one person could be capable of such atrocities alone.

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#26 horgen  Moderator
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Wow 21 years? Norway seriously has to revise that and add a freakin life sentence. What he did was bad and he should not be allowed back into society after that. I'm also thinking that it might be possible it was part of a larger network since I'd hope no one person could be capable of such atrocities alone.

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We already got an option that can lead to life sentence... But it works different than in many other countries.