Not many people know what this man gave his life for, so it should be brought up

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#1 O_Rly_FTL
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http://www.articlecity.com/articles/politics_and_government/article_341.shtml
Instead of bolting it out of there and letting everybody else die, he died the way of a hero.
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#2 killings
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Wow.
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Wow.killings
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He's dead now though....I guess it's true after all. You are dead to other people until you die...then you're alive. A paradox?
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#5 matrix_hiei
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i heard about that when it happened. he was truly heroic indeed.
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R.I.P.
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#7 LiquidZ08
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I remember hearing about that on the news when that happened.  That guy made the ultimate sacrafice for his friends.  I can only imagine what type of person he was like among his friends.
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He's dead now though....I guess it's true after all. You are dead to other people until you die...then you're alive. A paradox?a55assin
Sounds like it.
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#9 andyboiii
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one of the most heroic things I have ever read about
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#10 RoyTheViking
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Wow. Thats a true patriot.
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#11 a55assin
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Wow. Thats a true patriot.RoyTheViking

 

That's...arguable.  

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[QUOTE="RoyTheViking"]Wow. Thats a true patriot.a55assin

 

That's...arguable.

Trying to drive this thread off course >_> ..
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Wow. Thats a true patriot.RoyTheViking
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#14 a55assin
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[QUOTE="a55assin"]

[QUOTE="RoyTheViking"]Wow. Thats a true patriot.LiquidZ08

 

That's...arguable.

Trying to drive this thread off course >_> ..

 

No...never!

 

I have just come out of two suspensions...one right after the other. I will be an angel forever from now on.  

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#15 ReapX
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Wow, that's heroic.
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[QUOTE="RoyTheViking"]Wow. Thats a true patriot.a55assin

 

That's...arguable.  

So sacrificing your life for the lives of several other people doesn't make him a patriot. Either they were all going to die or just him. Good move in my opinion. I couldn't do that and I doubt many people here could. What do you define as a patriot?

From dictionary.com:

Patriot- a person who loves, supports, and defends his or her country and its interests with devotion.

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[QUOTE="a55assin"]

[QUOTE="RoyTheViking"]Wow. Thats a true patriot.RoyTheViking

 

That's...arguable.

So sacrificing your life for the lives of several other people doesn't make him a patriot. Either they were all going to die or just him. Good move in my opinion. I couldn't do that and I doubt many people here could. What do you define as a patriot?

From dictionary.com:

Patriot- a person who loves, supports, and defends his or her country and its interests with devotion.

 

I don't want to get into this..but I see it in a bit different light.

 

He sacrificed his life for his friends...people he cared about..not hi country...but like I said..it's "arguable".  

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Good to see people like that in these dark times we live in.

R.I.P

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#19 RoyTheViking
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[QUOTE="RoyTheViking"][QUOTE="a55assin"]

[QUOTE="RoyTheViking"]Wow. Thats a true patriot.a55assin

 

That's...arguable.

So sacrificing your life for the lives of several other people doesn't make him a patriot. Either they were all going to die or just him. Good move in my opinion. I couldn't do that and I doubt many people here could. What do you define as a patriot?

From dictionary.com:

Patriot- a person who loves, supports, and defends his or her country and its interests with devotion.

 

I don't want to get into this..but I see it in a bit different light.

 

He sacrificed his life for his friends...people he cared about..not hi country...but like I said..it's "arguable".  

So if he weren't friends with his team mates, he would be a patriot?

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#21 a55assin
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Good to see people like that in these dark times we live in.

R.I.P

Theempire30

 

Dark Times? We're in the "good" times here.  

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[QUOTE="a55assin"]

[QUOTE="RoyTheViking"]Wow. Thats a true patriot.RoyTheViking

 

That's...arguable.  

So sacrificing your life for the lives of several other people doesn't make him a patriot. Either they were all going to die or just him. Good move in my opinion. I couldn't do that and I doubt many people here could. What do you define as a patriot?

From dictionary.com:

Patriot- a person who loves, supports, and defends his or her country and its interests with devotion.

pwnd.  and that guy probably has the most courage i've ever read bout or heard bout.

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[QUOTE="a55assin"][QUOTE="RoyTheViking"][QUOTE="a55assin"]

[QUOTE="RoyTheViking"]Wow. Thats a true patriot.RoyTheViking

 

That's...arguable.

So sacrificing your life for the lives of several other people doesn't make him a patriot. Either they were all going to die or just him. Good move in my opinion. I couldn't do that and I doubt many people here could. What do you define as a patriot?

From dictionary.com:

Patriot- a person who loves, supports, and defends his or her country and its interests with devotion.

 

I don't want to get into this..but I see it in a bit different light.

 

He sacrificed his life for his friends...people he cared about..not hi country...but like I said..it's "arguable".

So if he weren't friends with his team mates, he would be a patriot?

 

That's the way I see it...yeah.

 

Let's say I take a bullet for one of my friends in the city...that's not patriotic...

 

 

 

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He's dead now though....I guess it's true after all. You are dead to other people until you die...then you're alive. A paradox?a55assin

very much so i feel for all of them 

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#25 RoyTheViking
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[QUOTE="RoyTheViking"][QUOTE="a55assin"][QUOTE="RoyTheViking"][QUOTE="a55assin"]

[QUOTE="RoyTheViking"]Wow. Thats a true patriot.a55assin

 

That's...arguable.

So sacrificing your life for the lives of several other people doesn't make him a patriot. Either they were all going to die or just him. Good move in my opinion. I couldn't do that and I doubt many people here could. What do you define as a patriot?

From dictionary.com:

Patriot- a person who loves, supports, and defends his or her country and its interests with devotion.

 

I don't want to get into this..but I see it in a bit different light.

 

He sacrificed his life for his friends...people he cared about..not hi country...but like I said..it's "arguable".

So if he weren't friends with his team mates, he would be a patriot?

 

That's the way I see it...yeah.

 

Let's say I take a bullet for one of my friends in the city...that's not patriotic...

 

 

 

So dying in a war to save the lives of his team doesn't make him a patriot?

I would get modded for what I have to say right now.

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[QUOTE="RoyTheViking"][QUOTE="a55assin"][QUOTE="RoyTheViking"][QUOTE="a55assin"]

[QUOTE="RoyTheViking"]Wow. Thats a true patriot.a55assin

 

That's...arguable.

So sacrificing your life for the lives of several other people doesn't make him a patriot. Either they were all going to die or just him. Good move in my opinion. I couldn't do that and I doubt many people here could. What do you define as a patriot?

From dictionary.com:

Patriot- a person who loves, supports, and defends his or her country and its interests with devotion.

 

I don't want to get into this..but I see it in a bit different light.

 

He sacrificed his life for his friends...people he cared about..not hi country...but like I said..it's "arguable".

So if he weren't friends with his team mates, he would be a patriot?

 

That's the way I see it...yeah.

 

Let's say I take a bullet for one of my friends in the city...that's not patriotic...

 

 

 

yes but he didnt mean it in that sense anyway lets not argue about this please  

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#27 a55assin
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All I'm saying is that he died for his friends...he wasn't thinking about the US when he was sacrificing himself. It's as simple as that. He meant to save lives...and he did...but I'm pretty sure anything related to the US passed through his mind in his last moments on earth.

 

Also...not being a Patriot or being one...what does it matter? Does it make the person better? I don't think so...he might e declared a Patriot..but he wasn't thinking about a country when he died. 

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Amazing.but to even suggest that he isn't a patriot sickens me. This man is what America really is. If you sift through the crap that media throws out there, and get right down to the core, America is full of great people.

Sadly, most people in this thread haven't heard about this man's bravery. The media is too busy reporting about Don Imus, and Recent Death Tolls in Iraq, and whatever. Again, I'm not sure when this event actually happened, but chances are the media didn't report it.

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That was very deep
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Wow. Thats a true patriot.RoyTheViking
I don't see how he's a patriot.
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#31 a55assin
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[QUOTE="RoyTheViking"]Wow. Thats a true patriot.Hewkii
I don't see how he's a patriot.

 

Thank you... 

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#32 RoyTheViking
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All I'm saying is that he died for his friends...he wasn't thinking about the US when he was sacrificing himself. It's as simple as that. He meant to save lives...and he did...but I'm pretty sure anything related to the US passed through his mind in his last moments on earth.

 

Also...not being a Patriot or being one...what does it matter? Does it make the person better? I don't think so...he might e declared a Patriot..but he wasn't thinking about a country when he died. 

a55assin

Do you know what he was thinking?

I missed in the article where it said "he fell on to the grenade while screaming, "I'm doing this for only my friends and not my country!"' If you could please show me that that would be great...

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That's amazing..
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#34 a55assin
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Just common sense...
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Just common sense...a55assin

 

you act like what he did was so easy, Im pretty sure you dont have the courage it takes to do what he did  

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#36 RoyTheViking
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Just common sense...a55assin

I'm guessing you also missed the part where he pulled one of his injured comrades to safety in the middle of heavy fire also. Seriously, what makes someone a patriot? I would really like to know.

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sorry, but who is this man?  i never heard about anything.  i dont even know who or what your talking about. 
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[QUOTE="a55assin"]Just common sense...andyboiii

 

you act like what he did was so easy, Im pretty sure you dont have the courage it takes to do what he did

 

It's not easy...but doing something like that for a country...that's unthinkable to me. Look...friends are more important than patriotism...that's all I'm saying. What he did was truly amazing...like you said...only a few of us would do such a thing.  

 

PS: I'm not saying I'm a brave man...but I would probably do the same...you have to like life not to. And I'm not saying he didn't like life. 

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[QUOTE="a55assin"]Just common sense...RoyTheViking

I'm guessing you also missed the part where he pulled one of his injured comrades to safety in the middle of heavy fire also. Seriously, what makes someone a patriot? I would really like to know.

 

Trying to save a friend he's been through hell with isn't patriotic...it's human feelings.  

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hes a patriot look at the facts he joined the military if that wasn't enough he went on to join one of the best units we have in our military...something tells me he was a patriot

 The man is a true hero...drop the agrument now!

 

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#42 RoyTheViking
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[QUOTE="andyboiii"]

[QUOTE="a55assin"]Just common sense...a55assin

 

you act like what he did was so easy, Im pretty sure you dont have the courage it takes to do what he did

 

It's not easy...but doing something like that for a country...that's unthinkable to me. Look...friends are more important than patriotism...that's all I'm saying. What he did was truly amazing...like you said...only a few of us would do such a thing.  

 

PS: I'm not saying I'm a brave man...but I would probably do the same...you have to like life not to. And I'm not saying he didn't like life. 

You do realize that some people do actually love America. Some people would voluntarily die for their country. I've lost an uncle and two cousins to this war and I will probably be enlisting some time in the near future. I would gladly die for America.

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hes a patriot look at the facts he joined the military if that wasn't enough he went on to join one of the best units we have in our military...something tells me he was a patriot

The man is a true hero...drop the agrument now!

 

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You do realize that some people do actually love America. Some people would voluntarily die for their country. I've lost an uncle and two cousins to this war and I will probably be enlisting some time in the near future. I would gladly die for America.

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#46 RoyTheViking
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[QUOTE="RoyTheViking"][QUOTE="a55assin"][QUOTE="andyboiii"]

[QUOTE="a55assin"]Just common sense...AgostonF

 

you act like what he did was so easy, Im pretty sure you dont have the courage it takes to do what he did

 

It's not easy...but doing something like that for a country...that's unthinkable to me. Look...friends are more important than patriotism...that's all I'm saying. What he did was truly amazing...like you said...only a few of us would do such a thing.  

 

PS: I'm not saying I'm a brave man...but I would probably do the same...you have to like life not to. And I'm not saying he didn't like life. 

You do realize that some people do actually love America. Some people would voluntarily die for their country. I've lost an uncle and two cousins to this war and I will probably be enlisting some time in the near future. I would gladly die for America.

He still didn't jump on the grenade for America, he did it for the men around him. Him jumping on a grenade has nothing to do with America, other than the fact that they're all American (I think). He's still incredibly brave, nonetheless.

I'm not saying that he only did it out of love for america, but this man IS a patriot. He was a freaking seal for heaven's sake, that takes an extreme love for America as it is.

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I click it but nothing happens :roll:
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I click it but nothing happens :roll:Sim_genius

That's because its not linked. Click Here

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[QUOTE="a55assin"][QUOTE="andyboiii"]

[QUOTE="a55assin"]Just common sense...RoyTheViking

 

you act like what he did was so easy, Im pretty sure you dont have the courage it takes to do what he did

 

It's not easy...but doing something like that for a country...that's unthinkable to me. Look...friends are more important than patriotism...that's all I'm saying. What he did was truly amazing...like you said...only a few of us would do such a thing.

 

PS: I'm not saying I'm a brave man...but I would probably do the same...you have to like life not to. And I'm not saying he didn't like life.

You do realize that some people do actually love America. Some people would voluntarily die for their country. I've lost an uncle and two cousins to this war and I will probably be enlisting some time in the near future. I would gladly die for America.

 

I'm happy for you..really.

 

But what you're saying is a bit illogical. You've lost people in this war which began because of Oil...and yet you would die for America? I would die for people...not US..not any country in the world..no matter how nationalistic I'd be.