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#1 kingkong0124
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http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama-voters-love-socialism/article/2514663#.ULqTrGcR1si

Is this the sign of the coming Democratic transition to the left?

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Color me surprised
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#3 Franklinstein
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Most conservatives don't know what Socialism even means.
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95% (88%) of Republicans (Democrats) say they have a positive image of free enterprise, while 23% (53%) of Republicans (Democrats) say they have a positive image of socialism.

This suggests to me that people simply do not know what socialism actually is.

Also, it's weird that the support for free enterprise is much higher than the support for capitalism.

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#5 kingkong0124
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Most conservatives don't know what Socialism even means. Franklinstein

I think some liberals need to stop generalizing all conservatives....

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#6 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="Franklinstein"]Most conservatives don't know what Socialism even means. kingkong0124

I think some liberals need to stop generalizing all conservatives....

He clearly said most not all

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#7 kingkong0124
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="Franklinstein"]Most conservatives don't know what Socialism even means. toast_burner

I think some liberals need to stop generalizing all conservatives....

He clearly said most not all

Ok

s/he needs to stop generalizing most conservatives then.

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#8 chessmaster1989
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

I think some liberals need to stop generalizing all conservatives....

kingkong0124

He clearly said most not all

Ok

s/he needs to stop generalizing most conservatives then.

It's not a generalization if it's true.
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#9 Franklinstein
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

I think some liberals need to stop generalizing all conservatives....

kingkong0124

He clearly said most not all

Ok

s/he needs to stop generalizing most conservatives then.

Most conservatives are easily generalized. Most liberals are easily generalized as well. Also, don't get your panties in a wad, I was somewhat joking.
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#10 kingkong0124
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]He clearly said most not all

Franklinstein

Ok

s/he needs to stop generalizing most conservatives then.

Most conservatives are easily generalized. Most liberals are easily generalized as well. Also, don't get your panties in a wad, I was somewhat joking.

you're hilarious bro

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#11 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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Hmmm, I love socialism. Who knew.

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#12 Franklinstein
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[QUOTE="Franklinstein"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Ok

s/he needs to stop generalizing most conservatives then.

kingkong0124

Most conservatives are easily generalized. Most liberals are easily generalized as well. Also, don't get your panties in a wad, I was somewhat joking.

you're hilarious bro

It's hilarious how upset you got at the comment, "Most conservatives don't know what socialism means".
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[QUOTE="Franklinstein"]Most conservatives don't know what Socialism even means. kingkong0124

I think some liberals need to stop generalizing all conservatives....

Also this is funny given your topic title.
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#14 kingkong0124
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="Franklinstein"] Most conservatives are easily generalized. Most liberals are easily generalized as well. Also, don't get your panties in a wad, I was somewhat joking.Franklinstein

you're hilarious bro

It's hilarious how upset you got at the comment, "Most conservatives don't know what socialism means".

I'm not upset at all. People on here have said worse things. :|

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#15 kingkong0124
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="Franklinstein"]Most conservatives don't know what Socialism even means. chessmaster1989

I think some liberals need to stop generalizing all conservatives....

Also this is funny given your topic title.

That's the article's title.

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#16 kingkong0124
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Hmmm, I love socialism. Who knew.

jimkabrhel

You mean "mmm i love socialism"

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#18 Rich3232
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socialism is not bad if done correctly.
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#19 Guybrush_3
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Obama voters love socialism because a slight majority likes socialism. Using this same logic, voters love obama, because a slight marjority of voters voted for obama. Therefore, I think we can reasonably say that voters love socialism (using the logic used in the article title)

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#20 kingkong0124
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Guybrush_3

Most moderates do not have a favorable opinion of socialism.

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#21 Rich3232
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[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]

kingkong0124

Most moderates do not have a favorable opinion of socialism.

most moderates are also stupid.
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#22 Franklinstein
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Obama voters love socialism because a slight majority likes socialism. Using this same logic, voters love obama, because a slight marjority of voters voted for obama. Therefore, I think we can reasonably say that voters love socialism (using the logic used in the article title)

Guybrush_3

I guess that also means that we should have socialism in place by the end of Obama's second term since a slight majority of the slight majority wants it.:roll:

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#23 Jebus213
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and so do the rich... when it works in there favor.

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#24 Guybrush_3
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[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]

Obama voters love socialism because a slight majority likes socialism. Using this same logic, voters love obama, because a slight marjority of voters voted for obama. Therefore, I think we can reasonably say that voters love socialism (using the logic used in the article title)

Franklinstein

I guess that also means that we should have socialism in place by the end of Obama's second term since a slight majority of the slight majority wants it.:roll:

obviously.

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#25 Guybrush_3
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[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]

kingkong0124

Most moderates do not have a favorable opinion of socialism.

That's interesting because most moderates voted for obama *looks at the topic title* Is the title wrong?

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#26 kingkong0124
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]

Guybrush_3

Most moderates do not have a favorable opinion of socialism.

That's interesting because most moderates voted for obama *looks at the topic title* Is the title wrong?

I didn't make the title up.

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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Also this is funny given your topic title.kingkong0124

That's the article's title.

Well then, that article's title is misleaing, and so is your thread title.

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#28 MakeMeaSammitch
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]He clearly said most not all

chessmaster1989

Ok

s/he needs to stop generalizing most conservatives then.

It's not a generalization if it's true.

This

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#29 Bane_09
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Cool, whats your point? That people who voted for Obama are evil and scary?

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#30 LordQuorthon
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I think some liberals need to stop generalizing all conservatives....

kingkong0124

If that's what you really want, it would be really helpful if you stopped acting like a stereotype.

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#31 Engrish_Major
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FYI - the Washington Examiner is a sensationalist, right-wing biased rag of a paper.
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#32 Guybrush_3
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[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Most moderates do not have a favorable opinion of socialism.

kingkong0124

That's interesting because most moderates voted for obama *looks at the topic title* Is the title wrong?

I didn't make the title up.

and yet you perpetuate and encourage it.

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If that's what you really want, it would be really helpful if you stopped acting like a stereotype.LordQuorthon

I differ with my party in many ways. I'm not a stereotype.

and yet you perpetuate and encourage it.

Guybrush_3

no. that's the articles name, that's what i posted. all i said was "is this the sign of the democratic's transition to left?"

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#34 Franklinstein
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[QUOTE="LordQuorthon"]If that's what you really want, it would be really helpful if you stopped acting like a stereotype.kingkong0124

I differ with my party in many ways. I'm not a stereotype.

and yet you perpetuate and encourage it.

Guybrush_3

no. that's the articles name, that's what i posted. all i said was "is this the sign of the democratic's transition to left?"

By posting it on Gamespot you are perpetuating this article. And by citing it as the basis for your question, you are encouraging it by assuming it has validity.
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#35 Bane_09
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I differ with my party in many ways. I'm not a stereotype.

kingkong0124

How do you differ with your party? Just curious

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#36 kingkong0124
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Franklinstein

when liberals begin to support leftist idelogies more than their center-right party, that's a transition, no doubt.

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#37 Franklinstein
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[QUOTE="Franklinstein"] kingkong0124

when liberals begin to support leftist idelogies more than their center-right party, that's a transition, no doubt.

You're completely missing the point, on purpose, no doubt.
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

I differ with my party in many ways. I'm not a stereotype.

Bane_09

How do you differ with your party? Just curious

Marijuana

Fine with civil unions

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#39 Bane_09
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[QUOTE="Bane_09"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

I differ with my party in many ways. I'm not a stereotype.

kingkong0124

How do you differ with your party? Just curious

Marijuana

Fine with civil unions

You aren't a real republican then:P but thanks

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#40 stiggy321
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="Bane_09"]

How do you differ with your party? Just curious

Bane_09

Marijuana

Fine with civil unions

You aren't a real republican then:P but thanks

That's not conservative. "Conservative" (and liberal) are not political parties. Republicans (and democrats) don't have political beliefs. One side gets elected by rich people, the other by poor. They're amoral. They don't have any ideas or beliefs or standards... or rather, they'll do and say anything to get themselves more power and money.
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#41 Franklinstein
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[QUOTE="Bane_09"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Marijuana

Fine with civil unions

stiggy321

You aren't a real republican then:P but thanks

That's not conservative. "Conservative" (and liberal) are not political parties. Republicans (and democrats) don't have political beliefs. One side gets elected by rich people, the other by poor. They're amoral. They don't have any ideas or beliefs or standards... or rather, they'll do and say anything to get themselves more power and money.

That's a pretty pessimistic stance. I like to think otherwise. That liberals believe the government should not be involved in social issues, but should offer support with economic ones. And that Conservatives believe government should protect the sanctity of certain things by imposing certain government restrictions on certain social issues, but that the government is incompetent to handle money and should have as little economic control/power as possible.
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#42 megam
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I hate surveys like this. Can we all agree that the issues involved are more nuanced than whether or not someone has a positive or negative image of the term? Free enterprise and capitalism are great, but not when it involves things like child labor, burning rivers, toxic food, and hazardous working conditions (as a result of management decisions).
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#43 Guybrush_3
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[QUOTE="Bane_09"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Marijuana

Fine with civil unions

stiggy321

You aren't a real republican then:P but thanks

That's not conservative. "Conservative" (and liberal) are not political parties. Republicans (and democrats) don't have political beliefs. One side gets elected by rich people, the other by poor. They're amoral. They don't have any ideas or beliefs or standards... or rather, they'll do and say anything to get themselves more power and money.

Poor people vote for both parties for different reasons (Some vote republican because of religious reasons or the fact that they think that they will one day be a millionaire, and some vote democrat because they feel that it actually favors them)

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#44 Socialist696
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I think Obama is the worst president in US history next to Jimmy Carter. But thats just my honest opinion so don't label me a troll for saying it. All these Obama topics are really getting as old as the man himself frankly.
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#45 stiggy321
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[QUOTE="stiggy321"][QUOTE="Bane_09"]

You aren't a real republican then:P but thanks

Guybrush_3

That's not conservative. "Conservative" (and liberal) are not political parties. Republicans (and democrats) don't have political beliefs. One side gets elected by rich people, the other by poor. They're amoral. They don't have any ideas or beliefs or standards... or rather, they'll do and say anything to get themselves more power and money.

Poor people vote for both parties for different reasons (Some vote republican because of religious reasons or the fact that they think that they will one day be a millionaire, and some vote democrat because they feel that it actually favors them)

I was generalizing, of course. There are no absolutes, and that is absolute. Democrats pander to social workers (and their clients) and Republicans pander to CEO's. They don't have an actual agenda or belief or platform. They do and say whatever they can to get more for themselves and less for everyone else. To Franklin - Economic issues are social issues. They pander to whomever they think can get them elected. They lie to get more power and money. This is an absolute.
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#46 MakeMeaSammitch
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[QUOTE="stiggy321"][QUOTE="Bane_09"]

You aren't a real republican then:P but thanks

Guybrush_3

That's not conservative. "Conservative" (and liberal) are not political parties. Republicans (and democrats) don't have political beliefs. One side gets elected by rich people, the other by poor. They're amoral. They don't have any ideas or beliefs or standards... or rather, they'll do and say anything to get themselves more power and money.

Poor people vote for both parties for different reasons (Some vote republican because of religious reasons or the fact that they think that they will one day be a millionaire, and some vote democrat because they feel that it actually favors them)

Not gonna lie, that's pretty sad.

The party of people who are bad at math. Maybe more math classes in High school would ruin the party.

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#47 Guybrush_3
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I think Obama is the worst president in US history next to Jimmy Carter. Socialist696

why?

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#48 Socialist696
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http://obamamustgo.com/ Since I'm getting bored reposting the same political banter over and over, I'll post this link for explanations. Pretty much sums it up nicely with a few exceptions. And, like I've said before, I respect Obama and admire his generous nature. I just don't feel hes the right fit for the job right now.
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#49 Socialist696
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And to add I compare him to Carter for a few reason, one being that they are the only two Presidents who have allowed a US Ambassador to die and the condition of the country in Carters time is comparable to Obamas time.
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And to add I compare him to Carter for a few reason, one being that they are the only two Presidents who have allowed a US Ambassador to die and the condition of the country in Carters time is comparable to Obamas time.Socialist696
Why don't you go off your alt account?