Obama's Agenda: Overwhelm The System

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#1 WhiteKnight77
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Obama's agenda: Overwhelm the system is quite interesting in that the writer points out what Obama wants to do and is doing as he has already done some of what is talked about in the article.

Obama is following the plan of Cloward & Piven, two professors at Columbia University. They outlined a plan to socialize America by overwhelming the system with government spending and entitlement demands. Add up the clues below. Taken individually they're alarming. Taken as a whole, it is a brilliant, Machiavellian game plan to turn the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority that desperately needs government for survival ... and can be counted on to always vote for bigger government. Why not? They have no responsibility to pay for it.linked article

We only have more to look at with more people on the dole should Obama gets elected to a second term. As it is, Social Security will be bankrupt by the 2030's aand people want the government to run a single payer health care system. The SS debacle should be a sure sign that the government cannot handle such insurance programs so why have the government take on more?

Add Puerto Rico as a state? More people on the dole. All those health care workers that the health care bill made join unions? More people to to help pander to the left (unions are notoriously left leaning). A union worker once asked me if a person has a right to work. Of course everyone has a right to work, regardless of whether said person belongs to a union or not.

Everyone wants to rag on Romney, but Obama is really a bad choice of the US and now, we can see what his meaning of "Change" is.

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#2 DroidPhysX
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Not sure if article was ripped from The Onion
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#3 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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He's not trying to overwhelm the system. There's no conspiracy. He just doesnt know what he's doing.

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I hope people make the right choice at the polls. Thanks for the info.
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#5 -Sun_Tzu-
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Social security will not be bankrupt by 2030. The only thing that is projected to happen in 2030 is that social security won't be able to pay out benefits in full (it still would be able to pay 75% in benefits), but this shortfall can be easily rectified by lifting the cap on payroll taxes.

And if Obama was this bigtime leftist radical he wouldn't have the huge backing that he continues to receive from corporate America.

This is all nonsense.

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#6 worlock77
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Social security will not be bankrupt by 2030. The only thing that is projected to happen in 2030 is that social security won't be able to pay out benefits in full (it still would be able to pay 75% in benefits), but this shortfall can be easily rectified by lifting the cap on payroll taxes.

And if Obama was this bigtime leftist radical he wouldn't have the huge backing that he continues to receive from corporate America.

This is all nonsense.

-Sun_Tzu-

Please, logic has no place here.

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Fairly interesting read but everyone here are just going to senselessly refute it.

I'm calling Obama getting involved with the UN after his presidency.

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#8 HoolaHoopMan
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I hear the term Socialist and Marxist thrown around so much lately, do people even know what these terms mean anymore? Christ people.
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#9 BossPerson
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If Obama is a socialist, then Reagan must be Karl Marx himself.

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#11 dave123321
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Fairly interesting read but everyone here are just going to senselessly refute it.

I'm calling Obama getting involved with the UN after his presidency.

Pikdum
Quite sad. On another note, GS is being really annoying with its glitches and stuff
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I hear the term Socialist and Marxist thrown around so much lately, do people even know what these terms mean anymore? Christ people. HoolaHoopMan

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#13 nZiFFLe
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interesting read, but it's nothing but pure speculation.

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#14 -Sun_Tzu-
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I think this essay is relevant.

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#15 BossPerson
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Fairly interesting read but everyone here are just going to senselessly refute it.

I'm calling Obama getting involved with the UN after his presidency.

Pikdum
All of a sudden the UN is the socialist front of the world....
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#16 WhiteKnight77
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Social security will not be bankrupt by 2030. The only thing that is projected to happen in 2030 is that social security won't be able to pay out benefits in full (it still would be able to pay 75% in benefits), but this shortfall can be easily rectified by lifting the cap on payroll taxes.

And if Obama was this bigtime leftist radical he wouldn't have the huge backing that he continues to receive from corporate America.

This is all nonsense.

-Sun_Tzu-

Of course corporate America loves Obama, he has bailed out some rather large companies and they figure if they get into finacial straights, he will give them money like he already has to GM, Chrysler, AIG, etc.

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President Obama should resign.
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President Obama should resign.AIpha-
lol
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Obama's first few months in office, he was advised to nationalise some banks and auto companies which had received a first round of bailout cash under Bush. He refused. Against his advice he instead opted to inject cash into these companies, a lot of money, allow them the time to get back on their feet, and then pull that money out (at a profit, no less). A marxist socialist communist president who turned down advice to nationalise banks and auto makers. I repeat that same lovely fact every time i encounter such a moron.
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

Social security will not be bankrupt by 2030. The only thing that is projected to happen in 2030 is that social security won't be able to pay out benefits in full (it still would be able to pay 75% in benefits), but this shortfall can be easily rectified by lifting the cap on payroll taxes.

And if Obama was this bigtime leftist radical he wouldn't have the huge backing that he continues to receive from corporate America.

This is all nonsense.

WhiteKnight77

Of course corporate America loves Obama, he has bailed out some rather large companies and they figure if they get into finacial straights, he will give them money like he already has to GM, Chrysler, AIG, etc.

um...bush is the one that actually bailed gm, chrysler out in 2008 and they still filed chapter 11 in 2009...
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This isn't quite the stupidest thing I've ever read, but it's really, really close.
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#22 -Sun_Tzu-
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Of course corporate America loves Obama, he has bailed out some rather large companies and they figure if they get into finacial straights, he will give them money like he already has to GM, Chrysler, AIG, etc.

WhiteKnight77

And that fact kind of "overwhelms" this ridiculous conspiracy theory.

Corporate America has no love for Marxism/socialism

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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]I hear the term Socialist and Marxist thrown around so much lately, do people even know what these terms mean anymore? Christ people. eggdog1234

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Gonna get alot of republicans *or just anti obamas but aren't they the same?* talking a whole lot of smack but like most republicans they have a memory span of about a week so we'll have to bring up all the republican presidents that had the same policies, me and another person have already had to point out to someone that bush actually bailed out gm and chrysler as well as banks back in 08...

But its not surprising their republican candiate one Middenfeld homley romlousnous passed a medicare bill in Mass. that is exactlly like the supposed ""obama care"" yet Romney keeps talking about it...

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I hope someone puts out an ad showing all the promises Obama made before last election about how different he was gonna be yada, yada. Like having a "transparent government" and being on "CSPAN". Give me a break. I dont want another 4 years of Obama. Cool dude. Smart dude. Bad president.
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I'm pretty sure that Obama's agenda consists on winning the next election, being president for four more years, and then living the good life that all former presidents live.

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I hope someone puts out an ad showing all the promises Obama made before last election about how different he was gonna be yada, yada. Like having a "transparent government" and being on "CSPAN". Give me a break. I dont want another 4 years of Obama. Cool dude. Smart dude. Bad president. carljohnson3456

He's actually kept (or at least tried) a metric f*ck ton of campaign promises he made.

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I hope someone puts out an ad showing all the promises Obama made before last election about how different he was gonna be yada, yada. Like having a "transparent government" and being on "CSPAN". Give me a break. I dont want another 4 years of Obama. Cool dude. Smart dude. Bad president. carljohnson3456

Show me a President who was able to get at least a thrid of his campaing promises through his first term. It never happens. President Obama isn't any different. It's meant a lot of disappointment, myself included, but that doesn't mean he's a bad President. He's been dealing with a completely useless Congress for two years now.

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I hear the term Socialist and Marxist thrown around so much lately, do people even know what these terms mean anymore? Christ people. HoolaHoopMan
My favorite saying is "Obama's failed socialist policies!", WHAT SOCIALIST POLICIES? The closet thing Obama has passed to a socialist policy is the Afordable Health Care Act. :|

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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]I hear the term Socialist and Marxist thrown around so much lately, do people even know what these terms mean anymore? Christ people. DarkGamer007

My favorite saying is "Obama's failed socialist policies!", WHAT SOCIALIST POLICIES? The closet thing Obama has passed to a socialist policy is the Afordable Health Care Act. :|

...which, BTW, didn't even have the most SOCIAL aspect of it when it was passed - the Public Option. With no public option, "Obamacare" doesn't even do what it's supposed to do - give everyone affordable healthcare. It just forces everyone to get private healthcare. The GoP would have been wiser to keep that in there and then they would have a bigger arsenal to fight with - UNLESS, of course, the system actually WORKED. But we'll never know either way since it's an incomplete idea.
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"They outlined a plan to socialize America " I quit reading right here. Anyone who seriously thinks that Obama is a secret socialist intent on turning the USA into the next USSR is so stupid that nothing that they could possibly have to say is worth hearing.
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"They outlined a plan to socialize America " I quit reading right here. Anyone who seriously thinks that Obama is a secret socialist intent on turning the USA into the next USSR is so stupid that nothing that they could possibly have to say is worth hearing.gameguy6700

My thoughts exactly

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#33 kingkong0124
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great article, i think the author raises a lot of valid points.