Obama's First Campaign Ad Is A Lie

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#1 MarineJcksn
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http://thelastbestplace.blogspot.com/2008/06/obamas-first-ad-lies.html Researching some blogs and listening to some radio coverage, I stumbled upon a story virtually UNHEARD in the lamestream media. Obama's 1st political campaign ad states that "Barack Obama supported the passage of laws extending healthcare for our wounded troops". What the ad DOESN'T say, is that the legislation being refered to was the 2008 Defense Authorization Bill, passed in January 2008. The problem is, not only did Obama NOT write the bill, HE DIDN'T EVEN VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT! Now to be fair, John McCain didn't vote on the bill either. It'd be idiotic to expect either McCain OR Obama to be regularly voting in the Senate when they're both running for president. BUT, McCain didn't use it in a campaign ad. Obama should be ashamed.
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#2 ferrari2001
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Yea I hate Obama, he just isn't very experience and I don't think he is ready to be president since his only term serving in the congress has been while he's on the campaign trail, but I don't care. I just hope he doesn't win.
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#3 Aquat1cF1sh
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Uh oh, looks like he lost. Now McCain will be our next president. >_>

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Uh oh, looks like he lost. Now McCain will be our next president. >_>

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Yay!

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Yea I hate Obama, he just isn't very experience and I don't think he is ready to be president since his only term serving in the congress has been while he's on the campaign trail, but I don't care. I just hope he doesn't win.ferrari2001

so experience is everything?

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#6 famicommander
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Politicians aren't always 100% truthful? News to me.
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Man, you guys just can't take the fact Obama is running for presidency..
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If the ad said "Obama supported the passage of a bill..." then it isn't technically lying. You don't have to vote for a piece of legislation to support it. As as he didn't vote against it he's free to say he supported it. Granted its a bit decieving but that's how politics and ads work.
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Man, you guys just can't take the fact Obama is running for presidency..Napster06

because we don't like his polotics we are politically ignorant?

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Yea I hate Obama, he just isn't very experience and I don't think he is ready to be president since his only term serving in the congress has been while he's on the campaign trail, but I don't care. I just hope he doesn't win.ferrari2001

Obama has changed the world...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si-lSLv9b4E

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[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]Yea I hate Obama, he just isn't very experience and I don't think he is ready to be president since his only term serving in the congress has been while he's on the campaign trail, but I don't care. I just hope he doesn't win.Decko5

so experience is everything?

Sure does help... One example being is that I'd rather have a doctor who has been to medical school...

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Now this is just being beyond pathetic. The bill passed 91-3 in the Senate I read somewhere. (Correct me if I'm wrong on that.) That it was going to pass was a foregone conclusion and there was absolutely no need for him to be present for the actual vote. Wow, the people campaigning for president aren't present for many votes. Wow, he wasn't there to make a completely inconsequential vote and thus he clearly did not support the bill. Shocking.

Man, it's too bad he wasn't there to make it 92-3. I'm sure that would have made all of the difference in the world. Seriously, if this and his preacher are the best that right-wingers can come up with against Obama, that just shows how ridiculously desperate they are to come up with stuff with which to smear him. Of course, I'm sure they are saving up the silliest stuff for closer to the actual election.

Anything to slam Obama though, seriously, no matter how utterly desperate it looks. Just keep this up every day. Make sure it's from a site with a blatantly obvious right wing agenda for extra points. It's kind of funny really.

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Yea I hate Obama, he just isn't very experience and I don't think he is ready to be president since his only term serving in the congress has been while he's on the campaign trail, but I don't care. I just hope he doesn't win.ferrari2001

Experience isn't always a good thing. I remember Cheney, Rumsfeld and Nixon had quite a lot of experience before taking office as Vice President, Secretary of Defense and President, respectively. Plus I'm fairly George Washington and Abe Lincoln had no prior political experience. OK, Lincoln served as a Representative, but that means he had about as much experience as Obama. If you're gonna criticize Barack Obama, please don't bring up the experience thing.

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Uh oh, looks like he lost. Now McCain will be our next president. >_>

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http://thelastbestplace.blogspot.com/2008/06/obamas-first-ad-lies.html Researching some blogs and listening to some radio coverage, I stumbled upon a story virtually UNHEARD in the lamestream media. Obama's 1st political campaign ad states that "Barack Obama supported the passage of laws extending healthcare for our wounded troops". What the ad DOESN'T say, is that the legislation being refered to was the 2008 Defense Authorization Bill, passed in January 2008. The problem is, not only did Obama NOT write the bill, HE DIDN'T EVEN VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT! Now to be fair, John McCain didn't vote on the bill either. It'd be idiotic to expect either McCain OR Obama to be regularly voting in the Senate when they're both running for president. BUT, McCain didn't use it in a campaign ad. Obama should be ashamed.MarineJcksn

I love it. :) Seriously he has no experience and he would be a total pushover to terrorists. Plus taxing every freaking thing possible doesn't solve anything. What's the premise of working hard if everyone gets the same income? :?

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Once again Marinejackson with another fail-filled thread.:lol:

Obama better win this election. No need for another idiot to be put into office.

And for those bringing up experience, I would have a newb in office then a noob.......

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Now this is just being beyond pathetic. The bill passed 91-3 in the Senate I read somewhere. (Correct me if I'm wrong on that.) That it was going to pass was a foregone conclusion and there was absolutely no need for him to be present for the actual vote. Wow, the people campaigning for president aren't present for many votes. Wow, he wasn't there to make a completely inconsequential vote and thus he clearly did not support the bill.

Man, it's too bad he wasn't there to make it 92-3. I'm sure that would have made all of the difference in the world. Seriously, if this is and his preacher are the best that right-wingers can come up with against Obama, that just shows how ridiculously desperate they are to come up with stuff with which to smear him. Of course, I'm sure they are saving up the silliest stuff for closer to the actual election.

Anything to slam Obama though, seriously, no matter how utterly desperate it looks. Just keep this up every day. Make sure it's from a site with a blatantly obvious right wing agenda for extra points. It's kind of funny really.

SpaceMoose

That's ok, SpaceMoose. I suppose we're to forget anything possibly involved with the Messiah Obama's judgement. We're supposed to forget his several Anti-American, racist pastors....he DIDN'T hear them say ANYTHING offensive, guess he's Helen Keller now.....we FORGET the way he bought his home from a criminal facing life in prison.....we FORGET how he pledged not to break Campaign Finance Reform which he voted for, only to break his word......we FORGET everything about your savior Barry.:lol:

Once again, I tell you specifically Sir how I DON'T support McCain at this point. I do, however, know that Barry is on par with Karl Marx in his views, that he doesn't give a flying **** about you, and how much he HATES the middle class. This is your wake up call America: Are you listening???

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Once again Marinejackson with another fail-filled thread.:lol:

Obama better win this election. No need for another idiot to be put into office.

And for those bringing up experience, I would have a newb in office then a noob.......

Thechaninator

How is it a fail-filled thread? Oh and answer my question.

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That's ok, SpaceMoose. I suppose we're to forget anything possibly involved with the Messiah Obama's judgement. We're supposed to forget his several Anti-American, racist pastors....he DIDN'T hear them say ANYTHING offensive, guess he's Helen Keller now.....we FORGET the way he bought his home from a criminal facing life in prison.....we FORGET how he pledged not to break Campaign Finance Reform which he voted for, only to break his word......we FORGET everything about your savior Barry.:lol:

Once again, I tell you specifically Sir how I DON'T support McCain at this point. I do, however, know that Barry is on par with Karl Marx in his views, that he doesn't give a flying **** about you, and how much he HATES the middle class. This is your wake up call America: Are you listening???

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Internet argument rule #207:

When defeated on the current point that you brought up in the first place, change the subject.

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#20 LJS9502_basic
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All the campaign ads he used in the primaries were lies....
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I love it. :) Seriously he has no experience and he would be a total pushover to terrorists. Plus taxing every freaking thing possible doesn't solve anything. What's the premise of working hard if everyone gets the same income? :?

battlefront23

Terrorism and Communism in the same post. subtle.

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yeah well so was the cake
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i just want the guy that opposes war

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#24 battlefront23
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[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

I love it. :) Seriously he has no experience and he would be a total pushover to terrorists. Plus taxing every freaking thing possible doesn't solve anything. What's the premise of working hard if everyone gets the same income? :?

Hewkii

Terrorism and Communism in the same post. subtle.

I was talking about Socialism actually.

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I was talking about Sociliasm actually.

battlefront23

eh, it's the same thing when used in propaganda.

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#26 battlefront23
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[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

I was talking about Sociliasm actually.

Hewkii

eh, it's the same thing when used in propaganda.

I know there is a difference between the two but what exactly is the difference?

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[QUOTE="Thechaninator"]

Once again Marinejackson with another fail-filled thread.:lol:

Obama better win this election. No need for another idiot to be put into office.

And for those bringing up experience, I would have a newb in office then a noob.......

battlefront23

How is it fail-filled thread? Oh and answer my question.

Don't even worry about it, Battle. This thread will get the most resistance from Obama supporters who aren't sure WHY they support him. They'll use my (and your) Conservative Stance against us, try to make people think we support G.W. since he's so unpopular, even though he's NO Conservative lol. It's like any other Conservative stance, we're forced to carry our history around our neck like an albatros, while Liberals distance themselves and tend to know NOTHING about THEIR history.:lol:

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[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="Thechaninator"]

Once again Marinejackson with another fail-filled thread.:lol:

Obama better win this election. No need for another idiot to be put into office.

And for those bringing up experience, I would have a newb in office then a noob.......

MarineJcksn

How is it fail-filled thread? Oh and answer my question.

Don't even worry about it, Battle. This thread will get the most resistance from Obama supporters who aren't sure WHY they support him. They'll use my (and your) Conservative Stance against us, try to make people think we support G.W. since he's so unpopular, even though he's NO Conservative lol. It's like any other Conservative stance, we're forced to carry our history around our neck like an albatros, while Liberals distance themselves and tend to know NOTHING about THEIR history.:lol:

Notice how he didn't answer my question. ;)

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I know there is a difference between the two but what exactly is the difference?

battlefront23

in theoretical sense, Communism has never actually happened. in practical sense, it's a matter of extremes, in that Communism is advanced Socialism, basically.

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[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="Thechaninator"]

Once again Marinejackson with another fail-filled thread.:lol:

Obama better win this election. No need for another idiot to be put into office.

And for those bringing up experience, I would have a newb in office then a noob.......

MarineJcksn

How is it fail-filled thread? Oh and answer my question.

Don't even worry about it, Battle. This thread will get the most resistance from Obama supporters who aren't sure WHY they support him. They'll use my (and your) Conservative Stance against us, try to make people think we support G.W. since he's so unpopular, even though he's NO Conservative lol. It's like any other Conservative stance, we're forced to carry our history around our neck like an albatros, while Liberals distance themselves and tend to know NOTHING about THEIR history.:lol:

You really need to stop labeling people. It's counterproductive.....stereotypical...and generally incorrect.
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http://thelastbestplace.blogspot.com/2008/06/obamas-first-ad-lies.html Researching some blogs and listening to some radio coverage, I stumbled upon a story virtually UNHEARD in the lamestream media. Obama's 1st political campaign ad states that "Barack Obama supported the passage of laws extending healthcare for our wounded troops". What the ad DOESN'T say, is that the legislation being refered to was the 2008 Defense Authorization Bill, passed in January 2008. The problem is, not only did Obama NOT write the bill, HE DIDN'T EVEN VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT! Now to be fair, John McCain didn't vote on the bill either. It'd be idiotic to expect either McCain OR Obama to be regularly voting in the Senate when they're both running for president. BUT, McCain didn't use it in a campaign ad. Obama should be ashamed.MarineJcksn

I don't think you need to vote for something to support it. And to the bolded part i don't think, based on what you have quoted from his add, it said he wrote it. It looks like he only supported it and i think he can do that without voting on it.

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[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]Yea I hate Obama, he just isn't very experience and I don't think he is ready to be president since his only term serving in the congress has been while he's on the campaign trail, but I don't care. I just hope he doesn't win.Decko5

so experience is everything?

yeah look where Mr. Bush's experience got us :roll:

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It's alright, once again I bring up Obama's obvious lies and shortfalls.......suddenly I'm a racist or a "hater" for not believing in the "messiah".:roll:

The true Kool Aid drinkers wont accept that Barry is a typical politician, crooked as a question mark and doesn't care about the Middle Class.

Face it, Barry is one of the BEST politicians of all time.....but that doesn't mean he's good. It means he's a good liar....and the lovers of Barry wont acknowledge it:lol:

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So is Barry a nickname for Barrack? Why can't he support the bill without actually voting on it or writing it? What is so bad about that.
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It's alright, once again I bring up Obama's obvious lies and shortfalls.......suddenly I'm a racist or a "hater" for not believing in the "messiah".:roll:

The true Kool Aid drinkers wont accept that Barry is a typical politician, crooked as a question mark and doesn't care about the Middle Class.

Face it, Barry is one of the BEST politicians of all time.....but that doesn't mean he's good. It means he's a good liar....and the lovers of Barry wont acknowledge it:lol:

MarineJcksn

Can't wait to see the responses to this. :P

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So is Barry a nickname for Barrack? Why can't he support the bill without actually voting on it or writing it? What is so bad about that.hoola

Barry was his original name but he changed it to fit his backgrounds in Kenya better. (I think)

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Ugh I hate politics, its game of lies, always has been and always will be.
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So is Barry a nickname for Barrack? Why can't he support the bill without actually voting on it or writing it? What is so bad about that.hoola

The reason he can't support the bill without ACTUALLY voting on it, is because since when have you heard a politician seem to the masses to SUPPORT a bill....without even had vote for it? Why give Barry a free pass? Barry.....where's Barry????

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[QUOTE="hoola"]So is Barry a nickname for Barrack? Why can't he support the bill without actually voting on it or writing it? What is so bad about that.MarineJcksn

The reason he can't support the bill without ACTUALLY voting on it, is because since when have you heard a politician seem to the masses to SUPPORT a bill....without even had vote for it? Why give Barry a free pass? Barry.....where's Barry????

Just because I havnt voted for that bill doesn't mean i don't support it personally. Support can be anything from saying "I agree with the contents of this bill" to actually voting on it and he is taking the vocal rought by saying that he supports it. Do you support the War in Iraq? If you do then, by your logic, the only way to say you actually do is to vote on...

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Barack means "Blessed by God" in Swahili.
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#43 battlefront23
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Barack means "Blessed by God" in Swahili. Rikusaki

I'm totally gonna vote for him now! :roll:

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Does ANYONE actually believe in Barry? Where are his actual accomplishments, can anone answer a single thing he's done?