Oh my. Alberta rednecks never cease to amaze me

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2009/06/02/alberta-human-rights-school-gay-education-law.html?ref=rss#socialcomments

"Alberta legislators passed legislation early Tuesday that will give parents the option of pulling their children out of cl@ss when lessons on sex, religion or sexual orientation are being taught."

I think this is pretty close-minded. Children should be exposed to as many different viewpoints as possible.

What ages are we talking about?

What's troubling is that teachers can now be sued and brought before a Human Rights Tribunal for talking about Sex Education, Religion, or sexual orientation. Locke562

Exactly. This is something that belongs in a school act, not a human rights clause. So here in Alberta, a teacher can be labeled as "inhumane" for simply teaching sex ed

The dumbist thing is that sex ed helps prevent underage sex not encourage it

I live in Alberta, and right now all you seem to hear at school is teachers & students complaining about that bill. "They're going to use it to take our rights away", "Now we can't talk about sexuality/religion at all", etc.

I'm fine with bill. It's seems to be the same policy we've always had, just more formalized. If the parents think something's inappropriate for their kids age (Or for anyone), it's the parents right to remove the kid from that, and that's always been around. It's not removing the right to talk about these subjects at all, just putting checks on some of the 'bolder' stuff.

I live in Alberta and i find this hillarious. Were not Rednecks :P

I live in Alberta and i find this hillarious. Were not Rednecks :P

Roxas12934

I live in Alberta and i find this hillarious. Were not Rednecks :P

Roxas12934

Yeah, neither am I. Look at my avatar :P There is an abundance of conservative people here, though.

I live in Alberta, and right now all you seem to hear at school is teachers & students complaining about that bill. "They're going to use it to take our rights away", "Now we can't talk about sexuality/religion at all", etc.

I'm fine with bill. It's seems to be the same policy we've always had, just more formalized. If the parents think something's inappropriate for their kids age (Or for anyone), it's the parents right to remove the kid from that, and that's always been around. It's not removing the right to talk about these subjects at all, just putting checks on some of the 'bolder' stuff.

Nagru

I agree that parents should have that right as well. If they want to teach their kids about the more sensitive stuff themselves, they should have that right. I'm just concerned about where this bill is placed, which is with human rights, and I believe it should be in the School Act

I agree that parents should have that right as well. If they want to teach their kids about the more sensitive stuff themselves, they should have that right. I'm just concerned about where this bill is placed, which is with human rights, and I believe it should be in the School Act

effena

Your opening post suggests a dramatically different concern than this one.

[QUOTE="effena"]I agree that parents should have that right as well. If they want to teach their kids about the more sensitive stuff themselves, they should have that right. I'm just concerned about where this bill is placed, which is with human rights, and I believe it should be in the School Act

Oleg_Huzwog

Your opening post suggests a dramatically different concern than this one.

Not nesessarily. Kids NEED to be taught about this kind of stuff from an adult. If not, they will learn about it in an ignorant mannor from their peers. If the parents want to teach it themselves, thats fine, but they way this bill has been made, they can pull the kids out of class just to keep them ignorant, and the school can do nothing about it. THATS why I think it's close minded.

[QUOTE="Nagru"]

I live in Alberta, and right now all you seem to hear at school is teachers & students complaining about that bill. "They're going to use it to take our rights away", "Now we can't talk about sexuality/religion at all", etc.

I'm fine with bill. It's seems to be the same policy we've always had, just more formalized. If the parents think something's inappropriate for their kids age (Or for anyone), it's the parents right to remove the kid from that, and that's always been around. It's not removing the right to talk about these subjects at all, just putting checks on some of the 'bolder' stuff.

effena

I agree that parents should have that right as well. If they want to teach their kids about the more sensitive stuff themselves, they should have that right. I'm just concerned about where this bill is placed, which is with human rights, and I believe it should be in the School Act

Yes, bringing a teacher before a Human Rights Tribunal for violations is extremely excessive, but the basic principle of 'bill 44' is still perfectly sound.

I'm just waiting to see whether it's really implemented or not. I've already had one teacher say he's just going to ignore the bill, and another's going to 'resist' it. It could end up being swept under the rug, or cancelled, so I'll wait and see what happens.

When I took sex ed I had to get my parents to sign a permission slip or I wasn't allowed to be in class during the discussion. This dosen't seem to be that much different.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2009/06/02/alberta-human-rights-school-gay-education-law.html?ref=rss#socialcomments

"Alberta legislators passed legislation early Tuesday that will give parents the option of pulling their children out of cl@ss when lessons on sex, religion or sexual orientation are being taught."

I think this is pretty close-minded. Children should be exposed to as many different viewpoints as possible.

im backCrazyinherpants

Oh hai thar

Wow dude, Alberta rednecks? There really aren't any rednecks in alberta, though maybe a few farmers.

Anyways this doesn't bother me. Kids wouldn't take it seriously anyways, this stuff belongs outside the classroom.

[QUOTE="Roxas12934"]

I live in Alberta and i find this hillarious. Were not Rednecks :P

effena

Yeah, neither am I. Look at my avatar :P There is an abundance of conservative people here, though.

Oh noes not sex ed and religion!michael_1234576

In some instances these go hand in hand

And not teaching them about other cultures can only lead to xenophobia.Hungry_bunny

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2009/06/02/alberta-human-rights-school-gay-education-law.html?ref=rss#socialcomments

"Alberta legislators passed legislation early Tuesday that will give parents the option of pulling their children out of cl@ss when lessons on sex, religion or sexual orientation are being taught."

I think this is pretty close-minded. Children should be exposed to as many different viewpoints as possible.

effena

Wow dude, Alberta rednecks? There really aren't any rednecks in alberta, though maybe a few farmers.

awsss

Lol. You think so? I think there is tons. Try being in Calgary during the Stampede. Nothin' but flannel shirts and cowboy hats.

I agree with you.

[QUOTE="awsss"]

Wow dude, Alberta rednecks? There really aren't any rednecks in alberta, though maybe a few farmers.

effena

Lol. You think so? I think there is tons. Try being in Calgary during the Stampede. Nothin' but flannel shirts and cowboy hats.

whatever. they still have loads of oil and cash.Severed_Hand

[QUOTE="effena"]

[QUOTE="awsss"]

Wow dude, Alberta rednecks? There really aren't any rednecks in alberta, though maybe a few farmers.

awsss

Lol. You think so? I think there is tons. Try being in Calgary during the Stampede. Nothin' but flannel shirts and cowboy hats.

I'm not from Alberta, but flannel + cowboy hat does not = red neck.

Ya its pretty stupid. Stupid parents. Parents are stupid.RushMetallica

Yeah, those are stupid parents. So stupid. Bunch of stupid idiots.

Wow. And here I thought Texas was the epitomy of closemindedness.

Everyones mad about this, teachers are suppost to present all points of view to the students, and this prevents them from doing that to a certain degree, so im against it. And how exactly does a bill being passed instantly make Alberta full of rednecks?

That is just terrible and stupid. It will only make them more interested in the subject. Parents like that would probably buy a plastic bubble and put their children in there to protect them from the outside world. :(

If this bill passes, I have no faith in democracy.

Edit: They passed it? What the bloody hell? That's amazing for the wrong reasons.

I have no faith in democracy.

They'll find out about it reguardless.

The Texas of Canada is what I have always said.

Guys, this is not an issue. Until the kid is 18, they have no civil rights. This includes deciding whether or not they will see this content. If the parents want their kid to be a wing-nut, that's their choice, and their right. 99.9% of the time parents will let their kids stay. Besides, most schools already send home a notice asking if the kid can stay or not. Now it's just mandatory.

EDIT: wow you guys are acting as if this is a big deal: all this is, is that a notice will be send home prior to sex-ed, asking parents if their kid will stay. Every single one of my schools so far has done this, though clearly some schools don't or this wouldn't have become mandatory. In all sex-ed classes I've had, no parent have said no.

Lame law, but it's not going to change anything. Almost every student will take sex-ed. The parents who decide not to let their children go, are going to be the ones who would have sent their children to school with a note anyways.

Besides, their friends will them about it. :P

If this bill passes, I have no faith in democracy.

Edit: They passed it? What the bloody hell? That's amazing for the wrong reasons.

I have no faith in democracy.

T_P_O

[QUOTE="T_P_O"]

If this bill passes, I have no faith in democracy.

Edit: They passed it? What the bloody hell? That's amazing for the wrong reasons.

I have no faith in democracy.

awsss

This is the stupid thing I've ever seen passed, what good is it doing to the children who are pulled out of lessons for utterly ridiculous reasons? They won't know about safe sex, STD's, teen pregnancy. They won't be allowed to know different sexual orientation objectively, so what's going to happen to kids with homophobic parents? Whatever happened to religious freedom if one child gets locked out of a room while other children are free to make their mind up? They won't be fully educated, that's what and they won't get any benefits from such a thing.

This is the stupidest law I've ever seen, what good can come of it? Makes me glad I live here.