i am not rich.
maybe if i can scrounge up some change...
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Well, I'm used to high prices since I smoke cigars. They've always been pricey compared to cigarettes.
1) It's mostly the poor who smoke.
2) It'd be bad if everyone suddenly stopped smoking. Tobacco generates a lot of money, and it is taxed heavily. Tax tobacco to the point that no one buys it any more, and there's a LOT of money to be lost. Potentially a lot of jobs to be lost. And I don't know how big the average small business owner's profit margins are, but I doubt that they're all that high. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if quite a few businesses are actually staying afloat because of things like tobacco and malt liquor sales.
3) I don't think it's in anyone's best interests to tax tobacco so much that people stop buying it. The idea is to make the tax increases small enough that people can still afford to buy the product. I was under the impression that the taxes which are about to go into effect make up an average of a 66 cent increase on the price of each pack of cigarettes. In my state, it's looking to be an increase of about one dollar. That's certainly a significant increase in prices, though I could probably choose to offset that increase by switching to the crappiest generic brand available.
[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]Oh my goddddd!! What will we ever kill ourselves with now?MrGeezer
Booze, I guess. That's the RESPECTABLE person's deadly addiction.
American beer is cheap too. Love my border town :)Quick 20 minutes, 9 bucks, and I have a 24 pack ready to go.
That's a good thing since I HATE smoking and less people need to shave off 11 minutes of their lives with every cigarette they smoke.gunswordfist
Personally I'm of the opinion that anyone who believes such a ridiculous statistic needs to start thinking about what they are saying.
Honestly, that's such a BS statistic that it's not even funny. It's just like the claim that the average person eats 8 spiders in their sleep, or that the average man thinks about sex every three seconds.
[QUOTE="zombie_forumite"]Roll your own. That is what I do. In fact I am about to roll some right now.MrGeezer
Isn't loose tobacco gonna gonna have significant tax increases applied to it as well?
Yeah. But its still going to be cheaper than what regular cigarettes are before the tax hike.[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]Oh my goddddd!! What will we ever kill ourselves with now?gobo212
Booze, I guess. That's the RESPECTABLE person's deadly addiction.
Kurt Vonnegut called cigarettes "the classy way to commit suicide."Cigarettes aren't classy any more, though. Booze has really taken tobacco's place as the deadly highly addicting drug that signifies class.
[QUOTE="gunswordfist"]That's a good thing since I HATE smoking and less people need to shave off 11 minutes of their lives with every cigarette they smoke.MrGeezer
Personally I'm of the opinion that anyone who believes such a ridiculous statistic needs to start thinking about what they are saying.
Honestly, that's such a BS statistic that it's not even funny. It's just like the claim that the average person eats 8 spiders in their sleep, or that the average man thinks about sex every three seconds.
thats interesting my statistic said 5 minutes and you did the math and found it to be about two years and you found it to be comforting. so now I'm getting a conflicting statistic well thats what you get when when you dont do any follow up on what you have heard. Ah well back to the booze you mentioned *Opens bottle of Tequila* "Who wants a margarita?"If the aim is to force people to quit, then they ought to just have some balls and ****ing ban it.
MrGeezer
But that wouldn't work. It's like alcohol - too firmly ingrained in society to simply ban like other less prevalent drugs. The idea is to wean people off of it gradually through education and making it inconvenient to smoke. I don't mind public bans. I just don't think an all-out ban would be any more successful than Prohibition was.
[QUOTE="pianist"]
Good. The more people who are forced to quit, the better.
If the aim is to force people to quit, then they ought to just have some balls and ****ing ban it.
i actually agree. they really should just ban it or stop with the taxes. If the country wants to take a stand it should do so istead of this passive aggresive stance.[QUOTE="pianist"]
Good. The more people who are forced to quit, the better.
If the aim is to force people to quit, then they ought to just have some balls and ****ing ban it.
i actually agree. they really should just ban it or stop with the taxes. If the country wants to take a stand it should do so istead of this passive aggresive stance. Well its a complex issue. If they outright ban it, people will still smoke, but the government won't be able to make any tax money off of it. But if they tax it too much, enough people will quit or find some tax loophole that the tax won't be as profitable. And if they lower the tax, they'll make a lot of money, but there could be issues of having to pay to the healthcare of people who got cancer or some lung disease from smoking. It's a fine line.[QUOTE="quadraleap"]
:o I must be rich!!! Yay.
Wait, where's my fancy car...where's my beautiful wife? :cry:
pianist
You spent all the cash for the fancy car and mail order bride on cigarettes. :P
You fell for the bait....I knew that was coming...lol. :D
[QUOTE="pianist"][QUOTE="quadraleap"]
:o I must be rich!!! Yay.
Wait, where's my fancy car...where's my beautiful wife? :cry:
musicaz70
You spent all the cash for the fancy car and mail order bride on cigarettes. :P
And booze, if this man has any real class to him that is. Having several as we type, as a matter of fact.:lol:
Well, it is logical, right?
pianist
Yep...and I just noticed the mail order bride part...didnt catch that fully the first time. :lol:
And booze, if this man has any real class to him that is. Having several as we type, as a matter of fact.[QUOTE="musicaz70"][QUOTE="pianist"]
You spent all the cash for the fancy car and mail order bride on cigarettes. :P
quadraleap
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