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#1 choctawfootball
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i am not rich.

maybe if i can scrounge up some change...

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#2 THE_BRUTALIZER
Member since 2008 • 3488 Posts

man thats a tough one......um...how about quit smoking?

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#3 cpo335
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Good.
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#4 zombie_forumite
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Roll your own. That is what I do. In fact I am about to roll some right now.
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#5 Bloodaxe726
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I'd rather just not smoke, it's good for me.

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#6 Travo_basic
Member since 2003 • 38751 Posts
You could get a job or quit smoking.
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#7 Rigga911
Member since 2008 • 2429 Posts
i just use computer paper and smoke that, its pretty affordable
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#8 DJ-Lafleur
Member since 2007 • 35604 Posts

*shrugs* I hate smoking anyways, and will never smoke as long as I live.

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#9 AAllxxjjnn
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Ask people for cigarettes.
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#10 gobo212
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Meh... I don't really mind vice taxes.
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#11 ragek1ll589
Member since 2007 • 8650 Posts

Simple solution, quit.

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#12 Buck_Hotep
Member since 2003 • 10589 Posts

Well, I'm used to high prices since I smoke cigars. They've always been pricey compared to cigarettes.

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#13 Theokhoth
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I'll bet ten thousand dollars that by this time in three years, the number of rich people in this country will have drastically and mysteriously dropped.

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#14 THE_BRUTALIZER
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i tried a cigar once. i took a few puffs and it made me cough and vomit. not cool. i hate smoking.

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#15 Hinata237
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Smoking is becoming a chore, due to the fact that I have to steal in order to get a smoke.
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#16 MrGeezer
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1) It's mostly the poor who smoke.

2) It'd be bad if everyone suddenly stopped smoking. Tobacco generates a lot of money, and it is taxed heavily. Tax tobacco to the point that no one buys it any more, and there's a LOT of money to be lost. Potentially a lot of jobs to be lost. And I don't know how big the average small business owner's profit margins are, but I doubt that they're all that high. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if quite a few businesses are actually staying afloat because of things like tobacco and malt liquor sales.

3) I don't think it's in anyone's best interests to tax tobacco so much that people stop buying it. The idea is to make the tax increases small enough that people can still afford to buy the product. I was under the impression that the taxes which are about to go into effect make up an average of a 66 cent increase on the price of each pack of cigarettes. In my state, it's looking to be an increase of about one dollar. That's certainly a significant increase in prices, though I could probably choose to offset that increase by switching to the crappiest generic brand available.

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#17 MrGeezer
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Roll your own. That is what I do. In fact I am about to roll some right now.zombie_forumite

Isn't loose tobacco gonna gonna have significant tax increases applied to it as well?

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#18 Dylan_11
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The cigarette companies know how to make money.
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#19 majoras_wrath
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Oh my goddddd!! What will we ever kill ourselves with now?
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#20 MrGeezer
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Oh my goddddd!! What will we ever kill ourselves with now?majoras_wrath

Booze, I guess. That's the RESPECTABLE person's deadly addiction.

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#21 joao_22990
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It's called "global crisis", and loss of buying power. just smoke less. A pack lasts me almost a week, so i don't spend much.
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#22 Dylan_11
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[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]Oh my goddddd!! What will we ever kill ourselves with now?MrGeezer

Booze, I guess. That's the RESPECTABLE person's deadly addiction.

American beer is cheap too. Love my border town :)

Quick 20 minutes, 9 bucks, and I have a 24 pack ready to go.

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#23 gunswordfist
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That's a good thing since I HATE smoking and less people need to shave off 11 minutes of their lives with every cigarette they smoke.
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#24 gobo212
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[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]Oh my goddddd!! What will we ever kill ourselves with now?MrGeezer

Booze, I guess. That's the RESPECTABLE person's deadly addiction.

Kurt Vonnegut called cigarettes "the classy way to commit suicide."
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#25 fidosim
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I sympathise with smokers and their plight. Don't let the feds shut you down.
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#26 MrGeezer
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That's a good thing since I HATE smoking and less people need to shave off 11 minutes of their lives with every cigarette they smoke.gunswordfist

Personally I'm of the opinion that anyone who believes such a ridiculous statistic needs to start thinking about what they are saying.

Honestly, that's such a BS statistic that it's not even funny. It's just like the claim that the average person eats 8 spiders in their sleep, or that the average man thinks about sex every three seconds.

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#27 zombie_forumite
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[QUOTE="zombie_forumite"]Roll your own. That is what I do. In fact I am about to roll some right now.MrGeezer

Isn't loose tobacco gonna gonna have significant tax increases applied to it as well?

Yeah. But its still going to be cheaper than what regular cigarettes are before the tax hike.
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#28 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]Oh my goddddd!! What will we ever kill ourselves with now?gobo212

Booze, I guess. That's the RESPECTABLE person's deadly addiction.

Kurt Vonnegut called cigarettes "the classy way to commit suicide."

Cigarettes aren't classy any more, though. Booze has really taken tobacco's place as the deadly highly addicting drug that signifies class.

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#29 smokingsbad
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Smoking is stupid " looks at my username" Yes it is
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#30 Tjeremiah1988
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smoke your tax return papers.
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#31 pianist
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Good. The more people who are forced to quit, the better.

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#32 Shiggums
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Damn those taxes :x

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#33 D3nnyCrane
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You people think you have it tough cos you do a pack or two a day. When you're habit is measured in the amount of LIGHTERS you go through a day lemme know...
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#34 MrGeezer
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Good. The more people who are forced to quit, the better.

pianist

If the aim is to force people to quit, then they ought to just have some balls and ****ing ban it.

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#35 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="gunswordfist"]That's a good thing since I HATE smoking and less people need to shave off 11 minutes of their lives with every cigarette they smoke.MrGeezer

Personally I'm of the opinion that anyone who believes such a ridiculous statistic needs to start thinking about what they are saying.

Honestly, that's such a BS statistic that it's not even funny. It's just like the claim that the average person eats 8 spiders in their sleep, or that the average man thinks about sex every three seconds.

thats interesting my statistic said 5 minutes and you did the math and found it to be about two years and you found it to be comforting. so now I'm getting a conflicting statistic well thats what you get when when you dont do any follow up on what you have heard. Ah well back to the booze you mentioned *Opens bottle of Tequila* "Who wants a margarita?"
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#36 Omega_Zero69
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its always the rich people maybe get a job or find something to curb your addiction
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#37 pianist
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If the aim is to force people to quit, then they ought to just have some balls and ****ing ban it.

MrGeezer

But that wouldn't work. It's like alcohol - too firmly ingrained in society to simply ban like other less prevalent drugs. The idea is to wean people off of it gradually through education and making it inconvenient to smoke. I don't mind public bans. I just don't think an all-out ban would be any more successful than Prohibition was.

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#38 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="pianist"]

Good. The more people who are forced to quit, the better.

If the aim is to force people to quit, then they ought to just have some balls and ****ing ban it.

i actually agree. they really should just ban it or stop with the taxes. If the country wants to take a stand it should do so istead of this passive aggresive stance.
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#39 fidosim
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="pianist"]

Good. The more people who are forced to quit, the better.

If the aim is to force people to quit, then they ought to just have some balls and ****ing ban it.

i actually agree. they really should just ban it or stop with the taxes. If the country wants to take a stand it should do so istead of this passive aggresive stance.

Well its a complex issue. If they outright ban it, people will still smoke, but the government won't be able to make any tax money off of it. But if they tax it too much, enough people will quit or find some tax loophole that the tax won't be as profitable. And if they lower the tax, they'll make a lot of money, but there could be issues of having to pay to the healthcare of people who got cancer or some lung disease from smoking. It's a fine line.
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#40 nicknees93
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bum cigs off of people. my reccomendation... quit. or start smoking something else.... you know, start hanging out with mary jane.
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#41 quadraleap
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:o I must be rich!!! Yay.

Wait, where's my fancy car...where's my beautiful wife? :cry:

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#42 pianist
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:o I must be rich!!! Yay.

Wait, where's my fancy car...where's my beautiful wife? :cry:

quadraleap

You spent all the cash for the fancy car and mail order bride on cigarettes. :P

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#43 musicaz70
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[QUOTE="quadraleap"]

:o I must be rich!!! Yay.

Wait, where's my fancy car...where's my beautiful wife? :cry:

pianist

You spent all the cash for the fancy car and mail order bride on cigarettes. :P

And booze, if this man has any real class to him that is.
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#44 helium_flash
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Um can I have a link or anything? For some reason it isn't in the first post.

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#45 PlaWeird
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That's a good thing since I HATE smoking and less people need to shave off 11 minutes of their lives with every cigarette they smoke.gunswordfist
...but - but - ...guys that smoke do look sexay, no? :o
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[QUOTE="quadraleap"]

:o I must be rich!!! Yay.

Wait, where's my fancy car...where's my beautiful wife? :cry:

pianist

You spent all the cash for the fancy car and mail order bride on cigarettes. :P

You fell for the bait....I knew that was coming...lol. :D

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#47 pianist
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You fell for the bait....I knew that was coming...lol. :D

quadraleap

:lol:

Well, it is logical, right?

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#48 quadraleap
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[QUOTE="pianist"]

[QUOTE="quadraleap"]

:o I must be rich!!! Yay.

Wait, where's my fancy car...where's my beautiful wife? :cry:

musicaz70

You spent all the cash for the fancy car and mail order bride on cigarettes. :P

And booze, if this man has any real class to him that is.

Having several as we type, as a matter of fact.

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#49 quadraleap
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:lol:

Well, it is logical, right?

pianist

Yep...and I just noticed the mail order bride part...didnt catch that fully the first time. :lol:

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#50 musicaz70
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[QUOTE="musicaz70"][QUOTE="pianist"]

You spent all the cash for the fancy car and mail order bride on cigarettes. :P

quadraleap

And booze, if this man has any real class to him that is.

Having several as we type, as a matter of fact.

How did you get that smiley?!