Opinion on the millennial generation

Just curious about the opinions on the OT of the current upcoming millennial generation.

Are they too soft? Lazy? Or the opposite? IMO I see a rise in the victim mentality (Less to do with jobs) and more to do with the cultural aspect of the human condition. (Hating whites, BLM etc. etc.)

Give me some opinions.

“The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.”

- Socrates

No matter what year, the "new generation" is always bad to older people.

Also it's wrong to use a minority of SJW as representation of an entire generation. For every SJW talking nonsense, there are 9 millennials laughing at them.

i think there is an over-fascination with them in the media for sure.

i also think as posted above you see a lot of the typical "this generation is so lazy, they have it so easy" attitude that has been in existence since the world started turning. besides, THAT'S THE WHOLE DAMN POINT OF PROGRESS! to make your child's life ( hopefully ) easier than your own... then why complain about it later? it means you did your damn job as a parent.

anyway, the people of that generation who are my co-workers are all very capable, hard working and in my opinion do not fit they "soft, lazy, entitled" stereotype.

EDIT: also, that quote attributed to Socrates is bunk http://www.bartleby.com/73/195.html

That's not really the case for this generation. I'm pretty sure past generations had it easier when it came to affordable housing and subsidized college tuition.

On topic, the whole thing is ridiculous. It's even funnier when someone from there generation tries to dissociate with it and not realize that they're just a bunch of dumb hipsters. Every generation has their highs and lows.

well, you can pick and choose for sure. previous generations had cheaper access to education. current generations have better access to clean drinking water.

but i do agree the whole thing is ridiculous.

it'll be interesting to see what millennials start complaining about wrt younger generations when they're older.

"when i was your age i had to type my own damn text messages"

I think picking on the new generation is simply an easy out for the older folks (which is mostly bunk). But if you want to really dig into it, let's assume that millennials are as awful as the boomers imply. Well who the hell raised the millennials? If they're adamant about millennials being soft, weak, self entitled, then they have no one else to blame but themselves. They raised them for ****'s sake.

They have plenty of potential to be great but it seems they are being corrupted by allowing themselves to get wrapped up in social media/tabloid media shitstorms....

It's a garbage generation

Every generations views the next generation in a negative light.

Has the definition of a millennial changed? I used to mean anyone born after 1980, but I see the term being used to classify anyone born in the mid- 1990s.

Millennials are very hard working people who are, largely, getting screwed over by institutions that yielded different returns for our parents than they did for us.

More and more millennials are living at home to subvert the enormous burden of student loans. Growing up, to hear "work hard in school so you can go to college" translated only to life in-debt to a system that doesn't necessarily help one obtain a good paying job.

Basically all the stuff our main man Bernie said.

I was wondering that as well... What are the different ages for the different names? Baby boomers is 1940-1960? Then there is generation X? I wouldn't lump people born in the early 80's with people born in the early 00's.

Millennials are from 1999+, 1980-98 would be Generation Y

This. I'm too young to yell at clouds.

Generations are absolutely useless. There's a reason the term millennial is only really used by angry people on the internet and bottom feeding tabloids.

Self-entitled, self-righteous, spoiled. Pretty much like every other generation.

any generation that grows up with regular internet access is probably going to turn out pretty poorly

How about an opinion of GenX/boomers? Studies show that millennials are in more debt, earn less at their parent's age, and are more stressed because of it. If the job of the old generation is to make a better life for the next then perhaps they have actually failed.

Stop complaining and get back to your unpaid internship and your low-wage job you millennial.

And get off my lawn!

i thought the generally accepted boundaries are:

boomers: ~1945-1965

gen-x: ~1966 - 1980

gen-y: ( millenials ) 1980 - 2000

gen ?: 2000 - current.

That's another problem with the Millennials! Always blaming someone else....

Isn't it against the TOS if we don't give a positive remark?

Could there be different ranges from different potions? I got the number from the wiki page in my language.

i'm sure there could be different ranges.. these things are not official by any means : )

No real opinion on the matter. Just like previous generations, they have their own beliefs and tastes that define them.

I can't really say anything bad about them without me looking in the mirror. ;)

@comp_atkins: i though the generally accepted boundaries are:

boomers: ~1945-1965

gen-x: ~1966 - 1980

gen-y: ( millenials ) 1980 - 2000

gen ?: 2000 - current.

I'm not a millennial. =(

Take that back.

They're overly sensitive. A lot of it has to do with boomers working as professors on college campuses. I couldn't stand my English courses because all they were about was how white people are the problem of everything and that men rule some form of patriarchy like we're living in the early 1900s. It's very uncomfortable to witness the amount of racism and sexism that is becoming normalize in academics.

I'm a millennial myself. I have hope for the next generation, though. They aren't as batshit crazy as the ones I have to deal with and they think we're a laughing stock. We're just going through growing pains. The vocal minority will just become a fringe group of idiots.

90% of the opinions people have about Millennials are generalizations about the middle class. I mean if you listen to them, it's all shit that you hear about blue-collar workers and unions; entitlements, pay, laziness, unwillingness to better themselves, etc..

The only thing I notice about Millennials that really bugs me is the apathy. They just don't seem to "get it" sometimes. It's like I work hard at my job because it's my job and I get paid to do so and there is honor in it and I get a good feeling from it because I enjoy it. They apparently don't for some reason *shrug*.

@mrbojangles25: Have you had this conversation with the people you know who are like this? I'd be very interested in hearing their side of it.

Take responsibility for your parenting! If Millennials suck then it would follow that they're a product of their parenting and upbringing? I mean, after all, conservatives by far push the mentality that your place in life is more or less influenced by your environment and education (lack of biological and societal predestination variables).

My group is often called tweeners, between Baby Boomers and Generation X, those of us born in the early 60's (1960 -1964). I can identify well with both generations. We were too young for Woodstock, Vietnam, and going to disco clubs like typical boomers, and were a perfect age fit for "That 7O's Show" and "Freaks and Geeks". We grew up seeing the original Star Wars trilogy at the theatre, Starsky and Hutch, Charlies Angels, and Miami Vice on TV. In our 20's in the 1980's we grew up with MTV and the Reagan Era, and danced to MJ, Prince, Madonna, and 80's techno pop at the clubs. Cordless phones, microwaves, cable TV, compact discs, and Nintendo were all new. Simple and fun.

As for millenials, I do think they are too dependent on technology and social media, and are pampered a bit. That being said, it's a much more complicated world now, and in many ways a tougher one to navigate. Thank God I grew up enjoying the 70's, 80's, and 90's, I would not trade them for this century.

Every generation is always viewed negatively by older generations.

Both of my parents grew up in the 70's, and they told me that when they were in high school, they were always being berated that their generation was stupid and lazy.

Also, the term "Millennial," is fucking stupid.

As someone who is one of these "millennials" there are plenty of them who are pampered and privileged and their biggest concern is life is about "microaggressions" and lack of trigger-warnings in the media, etc.

Obviously not all of us are like this - we just get swallowed up by the idiots.

A generation that embraces bad behavior as long as something done by someone else that they do not agree with manages to do something worse.

In other words... No different than any previous or forthcoming generation.

My opinion is my generation is the best and everyone else sucks

/thread

I have.

I am in a minor management position, and the bulk of my team comprises of 20-somethings because it is a "young man's game"--add to this that most people in my job are primadonnas, as well--so I am used to dealing with the core of this generation. I also get a fair mix of educated and uneducated, trade-schooled and not, artists (ugh!) and craftsman (yay!). Quick sidenote: beware anyone styling themselves an "artist" unless you are hiring a literal artist.

So yes, I've had to have many many sit-downs with my fellow Millennials and I usually get the "Deer in headlights" look when I say that hard work is expected of them because it just is. I just think it's efficiency and/or apathy, that's it. They want their 30 minute lunch break. They want to put in the bare minimum to get that 3% raise every year. They clock out at exactly 8 hours. Pride in work? What's that? it's just work.

Another thing I have noticed is that they know, for the most part, that if they work just hard enough to not get fired, but are stubborn and complain a lot, they will get their way eventually.

I don't know, I like my job, I have fun at it. I like putting in effort because I like seeing results.

To me, I feel Millennials need to work especially hard because A.) there is that nasty stereotype we have to overcome, and B.) we went through the great recession, and we can't really go back to the cushy way thing things were, the way our parents had it. It's not fair, but there you go.

I use Allan Rickman's death as a litmus test of whether you're a Gen X'er or a Millennial. If your reaction was something like "OMG, Snape from Harry Potter died", Millennial reaction. If you were like "Naw man, Hans Gruber motherfucker", legit Gen X'er.

i can't image how gd annoying it would be to be an adolecent now in middle/high school w/ all the social media bullshit they think they have to keep up with. it's non-stop

Both characters died in their own respective series, Alan Rickman died. Also Alexander Dane is lost to us, of all the souls I've encountered, his was the most human.

I can't say I blame anyone for wanting a lunch break. It's your "pride in work" bit that I have been contemplating, however. I know for a fact that my pride in my own work has gone down over the years, but why this is isn't clear to me. The most obvious personal reason to me is that I've been doing contract work since 2012, and not being seen as worth giving benefits or full-time work to can break a person down over time. I wonder though if it also has to do with the breakdown of company loyalty to its employees and a recognition of it by the new generation. Of course, I can't speak to how your company treats employees, but up until this latest job of mine there was always an understanding that I would not be getting benefits, and I can be dismissed at any time for any reason or lack thereof. It gives one a lack of confidence or empowerment, and thus you are less likely to consider you or your work as important.

On a different note, I don't think anyone (or at least not many) is likely to work extra hard because people are stereotyping them. I understand the logic, but people tend be stressed enough as it is without concerning themselves with how people view their entire generation.

As taught by their parents.

By the definitions on Wikipedia, I'm a millennial. And I see this attitude among people my age. And it is usually because they are pretty much like their parents, or used to be very well rewarded for minimal effort. You don't deserve a car because you turned 18 (when you can get your license here in Norway). And have your parents pay for everything that comes with having a car.

I really considered becoming a teacher for students in videregaaende (US equivalent is high school, though Norwegian kids are a year older I think) however I learned that in very few years after I was done with school, the attitude when it came to teaching had changed differently. It was our responsibility to learn what we needed. Teachers were there to help us and aid us, but in the end the responsibility was ours. Today it seems to be teacher's responsibility and not the students. A student failing his test is apparently the teacher's fault, not the student.

Generalizations: The Thread

The older generations tend to view millennials in a negative light. I want to say millennials have the potential to be the next great generation. Unfortunately they have so many hurdles to cross in order to get there. Impossibly high education costs, lack of employment opportunities and stagnate wages. We have a lot to work through in order to build a successful life. Our generation (I'm a millennial) doesn't deserve the hate we get. It wasn't us who crashed the housing market, sent the country into a recession, skyrocketed the cost of healthcare and education, created a lack of jobs, and failed to take action on global climate change. We will have to be the ones to fix all the problems left to us though. Every generation has their problems but there seems to be an awful lot of them that need fixed. There's often uproar about my generation being whiny, but how is that any different then the sit-ins and college protests of the 70's? Generational history tends to repeat itself.

The generation born from 2000 onwards are referred to as Generation Z, or Post-Millennials.

It seems a lot of people are confusing Millennials with Post-Millennials. The majority of users on this board are Millennials.

@Serraph105: about the lunch break; I should have been more clear about that, I don't mind them wanting a lunch break, we work a 10 hour shift and a 30 minute break is pretty necessary to keep spirits high. But generally speaking, there's only 1.5 guys per shift and these Millennial types just sort of take off whenever they feel like, leaving a multi-billion dollar production running unmonitored. There is no pause button, we run 24/7, and shit always goes wrong (so someone always needs to be there).

Again, no objections to the lunch; I just think they should have the, I don't know...care? to say "Hey guys, taking a lunch, hold down the fort for 30 minutes" instead of just disappearing. It's the apathy and entitlement and borderline sociopath to just disappear whenever they wish.

I expect a bit more of a teamwork dynamic from my peers and, well, team and when some people don't want to play ball and want to do their own thing it just doesn't work.

Oh yeah, and another thing about Millennials. THEY DON'T COMMUNICATE! For all their familiarity with communication devices, they just can't dialogue basic concepts to and from people. It's like they prefer ambiguity so they have a way out in the event they screw up, like "Oh...really? Gee golly I didn't know that".

exactly.

for all the shit I just said about Millennials, I truly believe they are the generation that are going to fix the world. They have a lot of altruistic qualities and beliefs (though maybe not the work ethic to follow through), and they are coming into a service-based economy as well so they are being groomed for it, it seems ("it" being service to something other than one's self).

Most Millennials also believe in social causes, liberal or conservative, and don't seem to sit on the fence for the most part. I suppose this means they are more likely to take action and support action in favor of certain things than simply stand idly by.

And, unlike the 1920's-50's, it seems like Millennials are a little more proactive than previous generations that fixed the world's problems. Sadly they are meeting a ton of resistence because, despite the world breaking, it has not entirely broken yet like it has in the past.

I don't know, though; this whole "Generation" thing is complete nonsense to begin with, imo, it's just another way to segregate people and make people feel bad and/or indignant. I mean we didn't really have the term generations until the 1950's or something, right? To describe the folks that went through the Great Depression.

The old people who fucked things up have a problem with the younger generation color me surprised.

@perfect_blue: the only time we can agree on

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