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#1 lightleggy
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Yeah I'm also looking for help at different sites, not just gs, so dont give me "use teh google gs ot knows nothing!!!".

Bought a brand new Citroen C3 2013 1 week ago, it's a great car but im kind of worried because I've noticed it takes an awful lot for the engine to cool down, like, I can use it for say half an hour, then park it and turn it off, and 5 hours later the engine is still hot, not hellfire hot but hot regardless.

I've had a nissan terrano and a toyota hilux, both of them big cars with relatively big engines and they didn't had this issue, they would be completely cool after 1 hour or so.

 

Is there any explanation for it or something I should be concerned about or should I just let it slide?

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#2 lamprey263
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I'd call the dealership, since it's new they might not charge you to check on it. Anyhow, how's the climate where you are?
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#3 Zeviander
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When in doubt, whip it out. But seriously, you should ask for Euro car nuts, because I, a Canadian amateur/casual car nut, know jack sh!t about a Citroen. Since they stopped importing here like a thousand years ago (if they ever imported them at all). Is it a diesel or gasoline powered engine? How hot is it exactly (20, 40, 80, etc degrees)? Most engines when on for more than a few minutes take a while to "cool" off completely. The diesel Freightliner I drive stays warm for hours after I shut it off for the night.
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#4 lightleggy
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I'd call the dealership, since it's new they might not charge you to check on it. Anyhow, how's the climate where you are?lamprey263
Cold, we actually just got a tornado and hail storm yesterday. And the dealership is really far from my place, so getting there would be an issue, plus I dont know if they have a "only 1st time free" policy so I dont want to waste it on that one.
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#5 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="Zeviander"]When in doubt, whip it out. But seriously, you should ask for Euro car nuts, because I, a Canadian amateur/casual car nut, know jack sh!t about a Citroen. Since they stopped importing here like a thousand years ago (if they ever imported them at all). Is it a diesel or gasoline powered engine? How hot is it exactly (20, 40, 80, etc degrees)? Most engines when on for more than a few minutes take a while to "cool" off completely. The diesel Freightliner I drive stays warm for hours after I shut it off for the night.

The issue here is that Citroen is relatively new over the place, they didn't had a strong presence because they weren't part of any major local dealership, so buying a Citroen was a really unsafe gamble because they pretty much had no warranty and spare parts for them were expensive as hell...They joined a major dealership like 1 or 2 years ago so they're getting more common, but still not as a nissan or hyundai, so there aren't many people who are experts about it. I would had taken it to one of my grandpa's friend who is a mechanic but the last time my mom took her car to his place to get it fixed (a 98 rav4) he would fix one problem and create another one, so I dont really trust him to check on a new car. It's gasoline powered btw I haven't meassured the temp but I can only let my hand on the hood for about 15 seconds before burning myself. the first hour at least...but 5 hours later it's still more than warm, not scalding hot but still hot.
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#6 lamprey263
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[QUOTE="lamprey263"]I'd call the dealership, since it's new they might not charge you to check on it. Anyhow, how's the climate where you are?lightleggy
Cold, we actually just got a tornado and hail storm yesterday. And the dealership is really far from my place, so getting there would be an issue, plus I dont know if they have a "only 1st time free" policy so I dont want to waste it on that one.

I'd still call them nonetheless, they might be able to identify whether there's an issue or not. Is there any warranty on the car? Maybe they can financially cover you taking your car elsewhere. Also check your state's Lemon Laws.
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#7 GTR12
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Citreon's are notorious for failing intercoolers and such, problems on the C5 are a dime-a-dozen.

Check the fluid levels of everything first, you can just eliminate 1-by-1 and it'll give you your answer.

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#8 VaguelyTagged
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i'm not an expert but french engines are known to be working on a higher temprature than usual and they work just fine.

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#9 punkpunker
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check the fan is it working?

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Bought a brand new Citroen C3 2013lightleggy
girls car m8
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#11 GTA_dude
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There's nothing wrong. Once the engine is off, the amount it cools down depends on the climate, time of day and the amount of insulation in the engine bay, along with the color (Black engine bay cools faster then white, hence why jet aircraft engine bays are always painted black)



Cars dont self cool down when they are off, if they are off then they are off.  Sometimes the fan will continue to blow, but the engine is not running so the coolent isn't going threw it anyway. In Arizona, if I turn my car off going into work it'll stay hot till I get out (I work 10 hour shifts)


And yes, I am a car expert.  If you're car is not overheating when you are driving it, and if this is not in anyway affecting how you're car is running then you are overthinking it.

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Is it actually running hotter than usual / over heating?  If not, then no worry.  If so, check fan and thermostat function as well as antifreeze level and condition.

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#13 GTA_dude
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Is it actually running hotter than usual / over heating?  If not, then no worry.  If so, check fan and thermostat function as well as antifreeze level and condition.

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Fan and thermostat dont do anything when the cars not running. If the waterpump isn't pumping, then it doesn't matter how much the fan is working. The water is still not cycling through the engine to cool it down. Sometimes electric or aux fans will stay on after the car is off, but only to prep the coolent in the radiator for the next time the engine is running. But not all cars do this. The water in the radiator might be cool, but the thermostat is on the engine side. So cool water in the radiator will not effect the thermostat reading because it is not being pumped past it. If the thermostat is malfunctioning, then it can be giving the wrong reading to the gauge, but if it's not overheating then there's nothing to worry about. If the car is not overheating when running then nothing is malfunctioning.
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#14 MountyManGamer
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[QUOTE="MountyManGamer"]

Is it actually running hotter than usual / over heating?  If not, then no worry.  If so, check fan and thermostat function as well as antifreeze level and condition.

GTA_dude

Fan and thermostat dont do anything when the cars not running. If the waterpump isn't pumping, then it doesn't matter how much the fan is working. The water is still not cycling through the engine to cool it down. Sometimes electric or aux fans will stay on after the car is off, but only to prep the coolent in the radiator for the next time the engine is running. But not all cars do this. The water in the radiator might be cool, but the thermostat is on the engine side. So cool water in the radiator will not effect the thermostat reading because it is not being pumped past it. If the thermostat is malfunctioning, then it can be giving the wrong reading to the gauge, but if it's not overheating then there's nothing to worry about. If the car is not overheating when running then nothing is malfunctioning.

 

That's not what I mean't.  If the car is staying hotter than usual after being run, then it probably reached higher temps when in operation.  Been working on cars for ages so I know all the basics you were describing ;)

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#15 XilePrincess
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Go to the dealer. It's under warranty and you should have them check it so they can't say it's your fault.