Thanks to those idiots who pulled off that attack in India. And Obama's talking bout invading with or without the Pakistani governments permission (sound familiar?).
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Thanks to those idiots who pulled off that attack in India. And Obama's talking bout invading with or without the Pakistani governments permission (sound familiar?).
if they have a war against pakistan, they have to remember that pakistan has a proper military (nothing like iraq or afghanistan), army, navy everything. they wont hold aginst the us or india but they'll give them a fight. (plus they have nukes) if they about to lose they'll fire a few against india.
its not really pakistan's fault, but no one will go to war with them, they are really close allies with china.Â
It's gonna be Iraq all over again. I mean it's only a couple thousand Muslims who are gonna die from that but who gives a fudge? (angry sarcasm)
Nobody is going to invade packistan. Maybe make some strikes over the border but destabilizing Pakistan is in nobody's interest except maybe terrorists.duxupHopefully. I have too many relatives and friends over there.
Invading Pakistan won't be good. First of all, we've got nukes (and the govt. might use it, if Pakistan's cornered). Secondly, Pakistan army has been mainly trained for defence; so any attacking armies will have a lot of trouble while dealing with the Pakistani army.
Secondly, India has accepted that uptil now it has only discovered evidence that suggests that the terrorists(who assaulted Mumbai) might be from Pakistan. They still don't have the evidence that any Pakistani organization had a hand in this(atleast thats what I saw on the news channel, that was interviewing an Indian [R] General).
India normall tends to blame Pakistan. Check the Samjodha Express case. Pakistan and ISI were blamed, and finally it turned out that some Indian army colonel, had a hand in that incident.
Why would Obama even open his freakin mouth? None of that had anything to do with us. Policing the world ftl.LikeHateradeBrowsing the news, I've found no evidence that Obama has said anything of the kind
[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]Why would Obama even open his freakin mouth? None of that had anything to do with us. Policing the world ftl.xaosBrowsing the news, I've found no evidence that Obama has said anything of the kind I don't know of any recent statements but a while back Obama was asked if as president he had info on a high value target in Pakistan (specifically the independent territories) would he strike without asking the Pakistan. He said yes. Some folks feel that somehow means he wants to invade. I think some folks like to panic a lot.
[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]Why would Obama even open his freakin mouth? None of that had anything to do with us. Policing the world ftl.duxupBrowsing the news, I've found no evidence that Obama has said anything of the kind I don't know of any recent statements but a while back Obama was asked if as president he had info on a high value target in Pakistan (specifically the independent territories) would he strike without asking the Pakistan. He said yes. Some folks feel that somehow means he wants to invade. I think some folks like to panic a lot.
Whew. Good to know xaos. Perhaps if you're correct duxup, this is just some pathetic attempt of fear-mongering in order to make Obama look bad, or just fear-mongering in general just for the sake of panicking. I'm not sure why people enjoy doing that. :?Â
USA should remember there is an end to every super power.Just look up any chapter of history,once considered immortal your arrogance and over confidence can destroy all your glory!Thinker_rebornUmm, ok... thanks?
USA should remember there is an end to every super power.Just look up any chapter of history,once considered immortal your arrogance and over confidence can destroy all your glory!Thinker_rebornWhile this is true, have you ever seen, "The Sum of All Fears"? There's an interesting quote at the beginning of the movie, where he mentions that Hitler could never take over the world, because was too big for him. And that had Hitler tried today, he may have been more successful, because we have "shrunk" the world. With the Internet, high-speed transportation, satellites, etc, we can talk to people half way across the globe using computers, or visit that same country within a matter of hours. Well, if you apply that same thinking, Rome could never take over the world because again, it was too big. America is the first country to be a superpower with this kind of technology, and with it, it may not suffer the same fate as all other superpowers. Who knows though? Anyway, back to the topic. Obama did not mention INVADING Pakistan like we did in Iraq, but, he would go into the law-less regions of Pakistan and take out Al-Qaeda training camps, and try to restore order in that area.
USA should remember there is an end to every super power.Just look up any chapter of history,once considered immortal your arrogance and over confidence can destroy all your glory!Thinker_rebornI've never heard of anyone considering America to be "immortal."
I don't know of any recent statements but a while back Obama was asked if as president he had info on a high value target in Pakistan (specifically the independent territories) would he strike without asking the Pakistan. He said yes. Some folks feel that somehow means he wants to invade. I think some folks like to panic a lot.[QUOTE="duxup"][QUOTE="xaos"] Browsing the news, I've found no evidence that Obama has said anything of the kindLikeHaterade
Whew. Good to know xaos. Perhaps if you're correct duxup, this is just some pathetic attempt of fear-mongering in order to make Obama look bad, or just fear-mongering in general just for the sake of panicking. I'm not sure why people enjoy doing that. :?Â
It is the world of sound bites. Pick your sound bite and make it say what you want it to.[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="duxup"] I don't know of any recent statements but a while back Obama was asked if as president he had info on a high value target in Pakistan (specifically the independent territories) would he strike without asking the Pakistan. He said yes. Some folks feel that somehow means he wants to invade. I think some folks like to panic a lot.duxup
Whew. Good to know xaos. Perhaps if you're correct duxup, this is just some pathetic attempt of fear-mongering in order to make Obama look bad, or just fear-mongering in general just for the sake of panicking. I'm not sure why people enjoy doing that. :?Â
It is the world of sound bites. Pick your sound bite and make it say what you want it to. I heard Obama wants to send a peacekeeping force to System Wars![QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"]USA should remember there is an end to every super power.Just look up any chapter of history,once considered immortal your arrogance and over confidence can destroy all your glory!remmbermytitansWhile this is true, have you ever seen, "The Sum of All Fears"? There's an interesting quote at the beginning of the movie, where he mentions that Hitler could never take over the world, because was too big for him. And that had Hitler tried today, he may have been more successful, because we have "shrunk" the world. With the Internet, high-speed transportation, satellites, etc, we can talk to people half way across the globe using computers, or visit that same country within a matter of hours. Well, if you apply that same thinking, Rome could never take over the world because again, it was too big. America is the first country to be a superpower with this kind of technology, and with it, it may not suffer the same fate as all other superpowers. Who knows though? Anyway, back to the topic. Obama did not mention INVADING Pakistan like we did in Iraq, but, he would go into the law-less regions of Pakistan and take out Al-Qaeda training camps, and try to restore order in that area.Well the enemies also have all those modern facilities.;)
[QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"]USA should remember there is an end to every super power.Just look up any chapter of history,once considered immortal your arrogance and over confidence can destroy all your glory!remmbermytitansWhile this is true, have you ever seen, "The Sum of All Fears"? There's an interesting quote at the beginning of the movie, where he mentions that Hitler could never take over the world, because was too big for him. And that had Hitler tried today, he may have been more successful, because we have "shrunk" the world. With the Internet, high-speed transportation, satellites, etc, we can talk to people half way across the globe using computers, or visit that same country within a matter of hours. Well, if you apply that same thinking, Rome could never take over the world because again, it was too big. America is the first country to be a superpower with this kind of technology, and with it, it may not suffer the same fate as all other superpowers. Who knows though? Anyway, back to the topic. Obama did not mention INVADING Pakistan like we did in Iraq, but, he would go into the law-less regions of Pakistan and take out Al-Qaeda training camps, and try to restore order in that area.
That advantage is not exclusive to the United States, in other words it would be really hard theoretically to organize an attempt to "take over the world" without anyone noticing. Even if they managed to pull that off, they wouldn't have anywhere near the resources or firepower to take over the world, at least not in any conventional warfare, and if they used nukes, it would just lead to the destruction of mankind.
If you are going to take over the world today, you need a totally different and politically oriented tactic.
We Americans should stop being the World's policepeople. America is less than 300 years old and they have been in a couple of major wars already.pvtdonut54My thoughts exactly. Its not that i don't care about India or any other country, its just that America always puts its nose where it "may" not belong. If the U.S had a terrorist attack, who would come to their aid (or our aid in that matter)? Maybe someone will come, but still, the answer is Nobody. If America keeps this up, then everone will just rely on the U.S to help them. P.S: Correct me if I am wrong. Who came to our need when we had the terrorist attack in 9/11? As far as my knoledge goes, No one.
I didn't know Obama really had any balls untill this. Link though? Pirate700That's your definition of 'Balls'?
[QUOTE="remmbermytitans"][QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"]USA should remember there is an end to every super power.Just look up any chapter of history,once considered immortal your arrogance and over confidence can destroy all your glory!Thinker_rebornWhile this is true, have you ever seen, "The Sum of All Fears"? There's an interesting quote at the beginning of the movie, where he mentions that Hitler could never take over the world, because was too big for him. And that had Hitler tried today, he may have been more successful, because we have "shrunk" the world. With the Internet, high-speed transportation, satellites, etc, we can talk to people half way across the globe using computers, or visit that same country within a matter of hours. Well, if you apply that same thinking, Rome could never take over the world because again, it was too big. America is the first country to be a superpower with this kind of technology, and with it, it may not suffer the same fate as all other superpowers. Who knows though? Anyway, back to the topic. Obama did not mention INVADING Pakistan like we did in Iraq, but, he would go into the law-less regions of Pakistan and take out Al-Qaeda training camps, and try to restore order in that area.Well the enemies also have all those modern facilities.;) Yes, but if the US goes, who can all those enemies scapegoat? Who will they blame for all their problems?
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