Palestine does not deserve a state- Allen West

http://www.israelvideonetwork.com/allen-west-palestine-does-not-deserve-a-state

Allen west says says it how it is, there's never been a state called Palestine. In 1948, we finally got a modern day Israel.

Well, Allen West is...how do I say this delicately.....an idiot.

Lets just give all of Palastine, Israel, Syria, Lebonaon, and Gaza back to the Italians. they at leats made it stable for a few centuries. Scratch that, Give it back to the Turks, will definantly spice up the mood in the TWC political mudpit.

Well, Allen West is...how do I say this delicately.....an idiot.

Sagem28

If Palestine needs some territory to call their own, they can have New Jersey free of charge. I am more than willing to offer up that state for peace.

by looking the situation and human behaviour at this moment.... I think palestine is not capable as a nation. The worst situation is other country will take advantage like syria, malaysia and iranhippiesanta

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]by looking the situation and human behaviour at this moment.... I think palestine is not capable as a nation. The worst situation is other country will take advantage like syria, malaysia and iranSaudiFury

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]by looking the situation and human behaviour at this moment.... I think palestine is not capable as a nation. The worst situation is other country will take advantage like syria, malaysia and iranSaudiFury

[QUOTE="SaudiFury"][QUOTE="hippiesanta"]by looking the situation and human behaviour at this moment.... I think palestine is not capable as a nation. The worst situation is other country will take advantage like syria, malaysia and iranhippiesanta

This is news to me.

I think the Palestinians deserve a nation of their own...I just doubt they'll ever be capable of managing one.

I thought the title said it was Adam West. :P

Can't say I disagree with him.

by looking the situation and human behaviour at this moment.... I think palestine is not capable as a nation. The worst situation is other country will take advantage like syria, malaysia and iranhippiesanta

http://www.israelvideonetwork.com/allen-west-palestine-does-not-deserve-a-state

Allen west says says it how it is, there's never been a state called Palestine. In 1948, we finally got a modern day Israel.

DrWalrus411

Using that logic there never was a state called Israel ether before 1948. Thus Israel doesn't deserve a state ether.

gaza ali, no I don't mix it up saudifury, checkout malaysia status in wikipedia or other link... (i found this blog WARNING: offensive to some) http://jeghui.blogspot.com/2008/07/i-sometimes-hate-my-race-malay.htmlhippiesanta

Haha. You found a self described "emo guy" and decided he represented the entire nation of Malaysia. Cherry picking at its finest, I say. Why don't you actually check out Malaysia's Wikipedia page. You might be surprised.

While your at it, why don't you check out some academic and official stuff too.

http://asia.isp.msu.edu/wbwoa/southeast_asia/malaysia/religion.htm

http://www.dfat.gov.au/geo/malaysia/malaysia_brief.html

:roll: What else would expect? This is the last vistage of Euro-Trash Imperialsim.

Nobody deserves a state, you can't claim a piece of land. The Earth was given to us by mother nature and it is for everybody.

I think the Palestinians deserve a nation of their own...I just doubt they'll ever be capable of managing one.

UnknownSniper65

We will never know because Israel thanks to the unquestionable protection by the US can do with the West Bank and it's population as they so please with out any fear of reprecautions.. And Israel has shown that they are completely unwilling to do anything less then control the radical majority of the West Bank... We are seeing a classic what happens situation when sides are imbalanced.. Israel and/or Zionists have had a unfair advantage in being supported by the West since the early 1900s when Great Britain took over the region through Mandates after WW1.. The Palestinian population after nearly 50 yearsafter the creation of Isrealwas just recognized internationally as a group.. Before that they were ignored completely..

i guarantee that if "Palestine" (which is a very ambiguous term in reality) formed a nation today, it would be end up being run by militants like hamas and would undoubtedly be a totalitarian theocracy like the other Islamic controlled nations in the area. and this is not to say that Israel is a perfect nation or something, but really I don't think the world needs a Palestinian state.

i guarantee that if "Palestine" (which is a very ambiguous term in reality) formed a nation today, it would be end up being run by militants like hamas and would undoubtedly be a totalitarian theocracy like the other Islamicly controlled nations in the area.

arbitor365

And so what if it did? Don't people have the right to self-determination?

[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

i guarantee that if "Palestine" (which is a very ambiguous term in reality) formed a nation today, it would be end up being run by militants like hamas and would undoubtedly be a totalitarian theocracy like the other Islamicly controlled nations in the area.

worlock77

And so what if it did? Don't people have the right to self-determination?

that arguement could be used to justifiy practically all of the brutal, authoritarian, genocidal nations throughout the last century

Palastine should have a state.

I think the site name explains the bias without me having to.

Israel and/or Zionists have had a unfair advantage in being supported by the West since the early 1900s when Great Britain took over the region through Mandates after WW1.. The Palestinian population after nearly 50 yearsafter the creation of Isrealwas just recognized internationally as a group.. Before that they were ignored completely..

sSubZerOo

Erm. The British aimed for a solution that suited both sides - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration,_1917 . Ironically, the British left not because of their support of the Israeli cause, but in large part because of the Jewish terrorist groups that were bombing the colonial government and kidnapping British troops.

The subsequent invasion of Israel by the surrounding arab nations is what turned it all into a total mess - The subsequent actions of Israel after that just made it all worse.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

i guarantee that if "Palestine" (which is a very ambiguous term in reality) formed a nation today, it would be end up being run by militants like hamas and would undoubtedly be a totalitarian theocracy like the other Islamicly controlled nations in the area.

arbitor365

And so what if it did? Don't people have the right to self-determination?

that arguement could be used to justifiy practically all of the brutal, authoritarian, genocidal nations throughout the last century

No, it's a counter to the arguement that the Palestinians shouldn't have their own state. Granted you didn't explicitly state that, but it was fairly implicit from your post.

If Israel had foresight, and some in Israel do, they would GIVE Palestinians territory to form a state. Based on current birthrates, within 20-25 years Palestinians will form a majority of voters within Israel, and it will become their state ANYWAY. Giving them the territory they want to form their own state would head that off before it's happened.

Edit: the stat might be that within that span they will form the majority, though not yet of voting age, extending the deadline another 18-20 years, or whatever the Israeli age of majority is.

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]gaza ali, no I don't mix it up saudifury, checkout malaysia status in wikipedia or other link... (i found this blog WARNING: offensive to some) http://jeghui.blogspot.com/2008/07/i-sometimes-hate-my-race-malay.htmlEsYuGee

Haha. You found a self described "emo guy" and decided he represented the entire nation of Malaysia. Cherry picking at its finest, I say. Why don't you actually check out Malaysia's Wikipedia page. You might be surprised.

While your at it, why don't you check out some academic and official stuff too.

http://asia.isp.msu.edu/wbwoa/southeast_asia/malaysia/religion.htm

http://www.dfat.gov.au/geo/malaysia/malaysia_brief.html