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So i stumbled across this and thought it was messed up. Punching someone because they don't believe in god? Is that a thing now? I really hope not
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So i stumbled across this and thought it was messed up. Punching someone because they don't believe in god? Is that a thing now? I really hope not
Well if he wasn't taking the lord seriously that must make it acceptable... fanatics don't like it when you point out flaws they work exceptionally hard to ignore.
OP big difference between punching a kid and killing 200 kids =P
Well Anders Behring Breivik almost killed 100 people, he's christian
Well, he was a smart kid, and that's dangerous. Who knows, if a pastor had punched me in the chest when I was a kid maybe I'd be a Christian now...
OP big difference between punching a kid and killing 200 kids =P
Well Anders Behring Breivik almost killed 100 people, he's christian
Well Boko Haram just killed 2000 =P
Still , yeah its wrong bullying/ killing people in name of religion . Those who do of any religion are all at fault here :)
God I hate people like this. I wonder how the audience reacted to the guy admitting to having hit kids in the past.
@indzman: That made me laugh XD To be honest though, I'd be the first to throw a punch as an answer to anything that pissed me off before I started martial arts but afterwards I became way less violent.
God I hate people like this. I wonder how the audience reacted to the guy admitting to having hit kids in the past.
I'd think the pastor knew what kind of crowd he was addressing so they probably stood up and applauded him.
"He was a bright kid, right, which didn't help things. Made him more dangerous."
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Ohhhh, I get it... Religious nuts fear critical thinking.
I have a feeling he was question the inconsistencies of the faith.
"He was a bright kid, right, which didn't help things. Made him more dangerous."
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Ohhhh, I get it... Religious nuts fear critical thinking.
I have a feeling he was question the inconsistencies of the faith.
Regardless, I still find his actions pretty damn inexcusable.
I mean, that was quite the animated punching motion he displayed there...
I typically don't give a shit about this sort of stuff. But anyone who truly believes in their particular practice (and is at least somewhat sane) would never feel the the need to resort to such things in the first place.
Yup, religion of peace ;)
Edit: I wanted to say something intelligent, but nothing came to mind, I'm sorry.
Isn't it the consensus that all extremists are violent? Why would that change just because some are Muslim and some are Christian?
OP big difference between punching a kid and killing 200 kids =P
Well Anders Behring Breivik almost killed 100 people, he's christian
Well Boko Haram just killed 2000 =P
Still , yeah its wrong bullying/ killing people in name of religion . Those who do of any religion are all at fault here :)
i didn't say they didn't kill people. Just remember people are violent everywhere
Isn't it the consensus that all extremists are violent? Why would that change just because some are Muslim and some are Christian?
Mennonite's are extremist evangelical Christians that have a staunch pacifistic position. Extremism doesn't connote violence. It just means that a particular group takes their "moderate" contemporaries beliefs to an extreme.
If Religious Studies taught me anything, it's impossible to apply any label to an entire group of anything or anyone.
Psh, yeah, punch someone, that sure is an effective way to make them follow your religious ways. Not.
This thread just adds more to my already long list of reasons to not be a part of any religion, or go to church.
To me things like this prove in my mind in that radical thoughts are a plague of every society.. If this guy is able to do that and admit that within the United States.. In which we have laws and public discourse demonizing said things.. How far would he go in a environment which did not have such boundaries?
Psh, yeah, punch someone, that sure is an effective way to make them follow your religious ways. Not.
This thread just adds more to my already long list of reasons to not be a part of any religion, or go to church.
The scary thing with these kind of actions and history is the fact that it treats life as a test and not really important outside of the devotion to their beliefs.. And that the true existence is in the afterlife in which your soul is saved.. This sets a scary precedent in many of these people's minds of doing terrible things to others to sway their beliefs, after all what does it matter the suffering that you may cause them in this life if you have saved their immortal soul? This kind of line of thought has led people to doing absolutely terrible things to people.. It's extremely scary because it is a line of thought that really can't be reasoned with..
OP big difference between punching a kid and killing 200 kids =P
Well Anders Behring Breivik almost killed 100 people, he's christian
Well Boko Haram just killed 2000 =P
Still , yeah its wrong bullying/ killing people in name of religion . Those who do of any religion are all at fault here :)
i didn't say they didn't kill people. Just remember people are violent everywhere
Well no shit.
OP big difference between punching a kid and killing 200 kids =P
Well Anders Behring Breivik almost killed 100 people, he's christian
I don't think it was Breivik's religious beliefs that motivated him to commit his crimes, it was his political beliefs.
The scary thing with these kind of actions and history is the fact that it treats life as a test and not really important outside of the devotion to their beliefs.. And that the true existence is in the afterlife in which your soul is saved.. This sets a scary precedent in many of these people's minds of doing terrible things to others to sway their beliefs, after all what does it matter the suffering that you may cause them in this life if you have saved their immortal soul? This kind of line of thought has led people to doing absolutely terrible things to people.. It's extremely scary because it is a line of thought that really can't be reasoned with..
Ah, evacuation theology. How glad I am that it's falling by the wayside.
"And I walked over to him and I went BAM! I punched him in the chest as hard as...I crumpled the kid. I just crumpled him. And I said...I leaned over and said, "Ben, when are you going to stop playing games with God? I led that man to the Lord right there."
I might be a dick for making light of this, but the way he said that shit is funny lol.
@LJS9502_basic: That's not so much an imperfection as physically abusing a kid. He may have been exaggerating, but if so it's not specified.
OP big difference between punching a kid and killing 200 kids =P
Well Anders Behring Breivik almost killed 100 people, he's christian
I don't think it was Breivik's religious beliefs that motivated him to commit his crimes, it was his political beliefs.
It was both. His religious beliefs gave him a platform to apply his political beliefs. Granted, he was way-out-to-lunch compared to a "typical" Christian, he was still very much a Christian.
When they have an easy target to make them feel superior and good about themselves, no one has enough left energy or the willingness for that matter to criticize what concerns them, the shit happening in their own backyard. That naturally has no bearing on the presence of such malignancy and its metastasis while everybody is busy demonizing other demographics and regions that are just as remote as they are impertinent.
OP big difference between punching a kid and killing 200 kids =P
Well Anders Behring Breivik almost killed 100 people, he's christian
Well Boko Haram just killed 2000 =P
Still , yeah its wrong bullying/ killing people in name of religion . Those who do of any religion are all at fault here :)
i didn't say they didn't kill people. Just remember people are violent everywhere
Well no shit.
Well yeah, i just have heard people say only muslims do this shit lately
"He was a bright kid, right, which didn't help things. Made him more dangerous."
GAAHH!! CRITICAL THINKING! MY WEAKNESS! I MUST PUNCH THIS SKEPTICAL BOY FOR THE SAKE OF THE LORD!
But seriously though, you're going to punch the kid to show him the way of the lord? What's so loving about that? Big contradiction going on there.
You learned people aren't perfect today....congrats.
would this clown ever come into a Islam bashing thread and say this?
I wonder if people in this thread would bash islam in public and not behind a keyboard...
i bash all religions
You learned people aren't perfect today....congrats.
would this clown ever come into a Islam bashing thread and say this?
Bad analogy. But then I doubt you'll understand why.....
@LJS9502_basic: That's not so much an imperfection as physically abusing a kid. He may have been exaggerating, but if so it's not specified.
Which means he's not perfect. Why are you arguing that of all things? Anyway I'd imagine there is legal recourse for the family against the idiot. I'm just not sure it's an interesting topic for the forum. People do shit like that all the time.
OP big difference between punching a kid and killing 200 kids =P
Well Anders Behring Breivik almost killed 100 people, he's christian
I don't think it was Breivik's religious beliefs that motivated him to commit his crimes, it was his political beliefs.
It was both. His religious beliefs gave him a platform to apply his political beliefs. Granted, he was way-out-to-lunch compared to a "typical" Christian, he was still very much a Christian.
Maybe so. In any case people's religious beliefs influence their political beliefs and vice versa. Some people may not like that fact, but human beings are not dichotomous and what we believe about one thing would naturally transfer over to what we believe about other things, so that for the most part people would have a unified way of looking at the world (what the Germans would call a Weltanschauung).
From what I recall, Breivik was a lone-wolf terrorist, so that would make differentiating between his religious motives and his political ones even harder. Though I think his ideology was for the most part nationalistic, anti-Islamic and anti-immigrant (which I would argue is contrary to Christian teaching), and had more to do with social or cultural Christianity than with religious Christianity (I think his manifesto said that it was not necessary for those who wished to join him to have a "personal relationship with Jesus").
With terrorist groups it's easier to classify them as being politically or religiously-motivate groups. For example I would say Al Qaeda and ISIS are religiously motivated, they fight under the banner of Salafism, whereas the IRA was primarily political and motivated by nationalism (though there was a religious component in the IRA was primarily Catholic and was fighting against a country that was primarily Protestant and had historically discriminated against Catholics, though the Pope was obviously against the IRA's terrorism), and most left-wing/socialist terrorist groups like the Shining Path or the Red Brigades were political and anti-religious though some members may have belonged to a religion (or probably were raised in one and then left it).
Idk about it being "Because God" so much as "Because mental issues".
People who want to hurt others are going to find a reason to do so, religious or not.
Well that was his reasoning. He punched the kid because god
@LJS9502_basic: That's not so much an imperfection as physically abusing a kid. He may have been exaggerating, but if so it's not specified.
Which means he's not perfect. Why are you arguing that of all things? Anyway I'd imagine there is legal recourse for the family against the idiot. I'm just not sure it's an interesting topic for the forum. People do shit like that all the time.
Pastors punch kids all the time? Damn religion.
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