Pedophiles and Sex Offenders shouldn't be allowed back in society

I'm am getting sick and tired of seeing stories on the news about missing children turning up dead or abused by registered neighborhood sex offenders.

What is the point of letting them back into society in the first place? The mere fact they are required to be registered with the local police department pretty much guarantees that they are not trustworthy and that they will probably be up to no good.

You can't rehabilitate these people - they have a mental malfunction and no pills, therapy or jail time will fix it. They should be locked up forever and/or kept in secured camps or reservations that are specifically designed for these people with GPS ID chips implanted in their bodies so they can be tracked like wildlife.

Trying to mix them back into the general society is a horrible injustice and is BEGGING for them to act up again.

Drives me crazy everytime I see an Amber alert - knowing that it could have been prevented.

Most of these creeps are repeat offenders and yet somehow our stupid legal system lets them have more chances to act out their sick desires.

The sickos get to walk around free while people like Bernie Madoff are locked up forever. I'm not worried about Bernie Madoff attacking children or anyone for that matter, yet he's the guy everyone thinks is a bigger threat to society...?

What a joke.

I agree 100%.

But how do you know that you can't reform SOME of these people? What statistics do you have for saying that none of them can be reformed. Their crimes are heinous but they are still people underneath and we should work towards WHY they went bad.

I would also like you to watch a very important film called The Woodsman

Couldn't you make a counter arguement towards the parents of missing children when the information of pedophiles in their area is made available to the public? If they're aware of pedophiles living in the local area, shouldn't they be more careful of their children?

But how do you know that you can't reform SOME of these people? What statistics do you have for saying that none of them can be reformed. Their crimes are heinous but they are still people underneath and we should work towards WHY they went bad.

I would also like you to watch a very important film called The Woodsman

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]

But how do you know that you can't reform SOME of these people? What statistics do you have for saying that none of them can be reformed. Their crimes are heinous but they are still people underneath and we should work towards WHY they went bad.

I would also like you to watch a very important film called The Woodsman

rawsavon

Don't be so narrow minded and make sure you watch that film too!

I want both your reports of the film on my desk (blog) by early next week mister!!

Only for violent offenders. The term of "Sex Offender" can apply to a large spectrum of offenses.

Statuatory Rape, mistaken beleive of consent, and even public indecency in certain cases can all make you a sex offender. In a lot of these cases there isn't a need to isolate these offenders from society for life.

Pedophiles cannot be reformedrawsavon

Yes they can, in a social setting - easily, given the correct therapy and attendance of said therapy. It´s just a paraphilia, afterall. Sure, they will have urges, but as long as the pedophile does not adhere or abide to the urges thru any active/physical manifestation, i´d say he´s reformed, and just as worthy a citizen as the rest of us.

edit: Did i say easily? lol. Nothing easy about it, but my point gets across, hopefully.

What about people classified as sex offenders because they were 18-19 and their gf was 16? This would never work although I agree with you on cases where it's extreme like a 30 year old and an 11 year old.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="biggest_loser"]

But how do you know that you can't reform SOME of these people? What statistics do you have for saying that none of them can be reformed. Their crimes are heinous but they are still people underneath and we should work towards WHY they went bad.

I would also like you to watch a very important film called The Woodsman

Don't be so narrow minded and make sure you watch that film! I want a report on my desk (blog) by early next week mister!!

Depends on where you draw the line with the "sex offender" label -may crimes get this label when it is not appropriate IMOrawsavon

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]Pedophiles cannot be reformedBiancaDK

Yes they can, in a social setting - easily, given the correct therapy and attendance of said therapy. It´s just a paraphilia, afterall. Sure, they will have urges, but as long as the pedophile does not adhere or abide to the urges thru any active/physical manifestation, i´d say he´s reformed, and just as worthy a citizen as the rest of us.

Simple and cheap solution CastrationMafiree

This is semantics...when I say reform...I mean no more urgesrawsavon

fair enough (: by that definition i agree with you.

You can't rehabilitate these people - they have a mental malfunction and no pills, therapy or jail time will fix it. They should be locked up forever and/or kept in secured camps or reservations that are specifically designed for these people with GPS ID chips implanted in their bodies so they can be tracked like wildlife.

Trying to mix them back into the general society is a horrible injustice and is BEGGING for them to act up again.

Netherscourge

I love how you propose that they ought to be treated as sub human and then have the audacity to use the word injustice. I can't fathom how a proposition that resembles the holocaust is more just than a pedophile going out and sexually assaulting a kid.

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"] Pedophiles cannot be reformed -if there was a way, I would be all for it But even chemical castration does not work (all ot does it get rid of the ability to "perform"...does nothing for the urges) -they still have the desire for little kids -they can still do other things to them (fondle, insert things, etc.) You can not change what they like (no more than you can make a gay person straight or a straight person gay rawsavon

Don't be so narrow minded and make sure you watch that film! I want a report on my desk (blog) by early next week mister!!

[QUOTE="Mafiree"]Simple and cheap solution Castrationrawsavon

I generally agree, buuuut I'm sure it is possible for them to be rehabilitated. As you say there *is* a mental issue with people who do this sort of thing, I'm not trying to give them excuses but trying to cure it where possible I think is the best thing for it.

What's wrong in today's society is, at least in the UK, paedophiles and other sex offenders are often let out after their sentence. Not after they've been cured, just after their initial sentence. That's why they're repeat offenders. They need to be kept in an institute where they can be monitored and rehabilitated, not let out a few years early for good behaviour.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="biggest_loser"] Did you just tell me the same thing as your original post? Even though I asked you for statistics etc?

Don't be so narrow minded and make sure you watch that film! I want a report on my desk (blog) by early next week mister!!

biggest_loser

Have a degree (not just taken classes)
And yes I can make a broad generalization about pedophiles based on countless studies into the causes and treatments.

I alreday said that if there was a way to reform them (no more urges) I would be all for it.
I also said not to group all sex offenders together.
I am only talking about pedophiles.

It has been proven (fact) that they will always have the urges
We lack the ability to supress these urges at this time.

Therefore, it is not worth the risk IMO (they will always want to do thingd to kids, I am not willing to bet on their "self control" that has already failed)
If you think it is worth the risk, I invite you to let a child molester live in your house with your daughter as proof.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Mafiree"]Simple and cheap solution CastrationMafiree

Well, I know a guy when we were in high school that got labelled a sex offender because he was having "relations" with this girl. They were both 16 but the guy was a like a month older so he got in the trouble.

Do you know how ridiculously pathetic some sex abuse charges are?Like this one:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45104

Besides, people can change, its called rehabilitation, which should be the main point of all justice systems, not punishment that achieves nothing.

I agree, they should be locked up forever depending on the case. Ceneb

I somewhat agree with you, although i believe certain repeat offenders (rapists, child molesters,killers) don't deserve to breathe. Look at it this way some sick bastard rapes, mutilates and/or kills a child, he's convicted. Now you might think justice is served, but is it really? This venal excuss for a man get's 3 meals/day, clothed, a place to sleep and a roof over his head and all accounted for with the tax payers money which most probably includes the parents of the victim and perhaps you as well. Now he even runs the chance of getting out with parole after a few years. Even if he doesn't kill the the child or children he abused, they are still forever scarred. It really angers me to no end to see a fully grown and develloped man pick and abuse a defenceless child, what cowards. If you ask me they merit the same courtesy they extended to their victims.

Although there might be cases where the charged offender is falsly accused or it's for an offence involving a minor like an example stated above, a 19 year old having sex, not rape, with a 16 year old). But again, i also believe in what some call redemption, but depending on the severity of the crime, some offenders don't deserve this chance at all.

Seeing as the vast majority of crimes are commited by previous offenders, why not apply the same rules to every person who's ever found guilty of any crime: cut off the hands of thieves, castrate sex offenders, and lobotomise alcoholics who have ever harmed anyone. That would help to prevent future crimes from being commited, and to hell with any respect for individuals as being capable of change. After all, punishment is all about preventing crime, not making the rest of us feel better for having found a universally loathable scapegoat, right?jimmyjammer69

Because we don't live in Saudi Arabia. It doesn't solve crime there, and it wont solve crime anywhere else. It will just take the country one step closer to a barbaric government and society. Punishment is about preventing crime, yes. But this won't do it. Rehabilitation will.Bourbons3

Child molesters should be locked up, not pedophilesCookigaki

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"] Because we don't live in Saudi Arabia. It doesn't solve crime there, and it wont solve crime anywhere else. It will just take the country one step closer to a barbaric government and society. Punishment is about preventing crime, yes. But this won't do it. Rehabilitation will.rawsavon

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]Seeing as the vast majority of crimes are commited by previous offenders, why not apply the same rules to every person who's ever found guilty of any crime: cut off the hands of thieves, castrate sex offenders, and lobotomise alcoholics who have ever harmed anyone. That would help to prevent future crimes from being commited, and to hell with any respect for individuals as being capable of change. After all, punishment is all about preventing crime, not making the rest of us feel better for having found a universally loathable scapegoat, right?Bourbons3

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]Seeing as the vast majority of crimes are commited by previous offenders, why not apply the same rules to every person who's ever found guilty of any crime: cut off the hands of thieves, castrate sex offenders, and lobotomise alcoholics who have ever harmed anyone. That would help to prevent future crimes from being commited, and to hell with any respect for individuals as being capable of change. After all, punishment is all about preventing crime, not making the rest of us feel better for having found a universally loathable scapegoat, right?jimmyjammer69

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Bourbons3"] Because we don't live in Saudi Arabia. It doesn't solve crime there, and it wont solve crime anywhere else. It will just take the country one step closer to a barbaric government and society. Punishment is about preventing crime, yes. But this won't do it. Rehabilitation will.Bourbons3

But how do you know that you can't reform SOME of these people? What statistics do you have for saying that none of them can be reformed. Their crimes are heinous but they are still people underneath and we should work towards WHY they went bad.

I would also like you to watch a very important film called The Woodsman

Oh, yes, what a brilliant idea! And all one has to do is loosen up the definition of "sex offender" and then BAM! Every sexual deviant (from gays to those who don't do it in the missionary position) are exiled into the woods where they belong.

Or.

We could respect the rights of humans.

[QUOTE="Cookigaki"]Child molesters should be locked up, not pedophilesbean-with-bacon