People actually think avril lavigne is punk

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#1 Film-Guy
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I am not joking, tons of girls at my school say who punk and cool she is. Even some guys think she is too which is even sadder. There is nothing punk about avril lavigne at all, why do some people say there is? I am fine with people having an opinion, but they should have a good reason for it.
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#2 pinneyapple
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Some people are ignorant fools who have never heard actual punk. Its all the mainstream media's fault for calling her 'punk'.
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#3 X360PS3AMD05
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Because she dresses different to gain attention and be "special" so she's automatically "punk", "goth" and "emo".....
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#4 Film-Guy
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Because she dresses different to gain attention and be "special" so she's automatically "punk", "goth" and "emo".....X360PS3AMD05

sad thing is I kinda liked her when she first came out, not her really just that one song that made her famous. I didnt really like it much, but I could tolerate it.

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#5 Film-Guy
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Its funny people call her punk, then listen to that song girlfriend and can say she is punk again with a straight face.
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#6 X360PS3AMD05
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Oh i like her, but not for her music :P
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another thing that confuses me about that girl is how guys say she looks good. i never understood that.
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#8 Film-Guy
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what sucks is how little i know about modern punk music, I only like the clash and the stooges. I dont know what modern punk is out there that doesnt have crappy singers or terrible guitar players:(
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#9 Two400
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If people want to call Avril punk, it's not the end of the world.

Personally, I'd love it if Avril was in a short skirt....standing in front of me....err oops. Anyway. Rock on Avril!

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#10 Film-Guy
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If people want to call Avril punk, it's not the end of the world.

Personally, I'd love it if Avril was in a short skirt....standing in front of me....err oops. Anyway. Rock on Avril!

Two400

you have a filthy mind:o

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#11 dooly420
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If people want to call Avril punk, it's not the end of the world.

Personally, I'd love it if Avril was in a short skirt....standing in front of me....err oops. Anyway. Rock on Avril!

Two400
it's statements like this that confuses me. i don't understand how people can think she's hot.
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#12 Film-Guy
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[QUOTE="Two400"]

If people want to call Avril punk, it's not the end of the world.

Personally, I'd love it if Avril was in a short skirt....standing in front of me....err oops. Anyway. Rock on Avril!

dooly420

it's statements like this that confuses me. i don't understand how people can think she's hot.

The image Dude shes so hot:|

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It's just a label, what are you getting so uptight about? Does it mean that what you call 'punk' stop exsisting? if the answer is 'no' then what are you whining about?

Secondly, you have no right to judge people.

Ps. A cookie for the person who can understand what I'm really saying here.

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[QUOTE="dooly420"][QUOTE="Two400"]

If people want to call Avril punk, it's not the end of the world.

Personally, I'd love it if Avril was in a short skirt....standing in front of me....err oops. Anyway. Rock on Avril!

Film-Guy

it's statements like this that confuses me. i don't understand how people can think she's hot.

The image Dude shes so hot:|

That's every girl without make-up..........
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#15 Film-Guy
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It's just a label, what are you getting so uptight about? Does it mean that what you call 'punk' stop exsisting? if the answer is 'no' then what are you whining about?

Secondly, you have no right to judge people.

Ps. A cookie for the person who can understand what I'm really saying here.

2FacedJanus

im not judging anyone, I would just like them to give me a good reason that avril is punk in any way

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#16 dooly420
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[QUOTE="Film-Guy"][QUOTE="dooly420"][QUOTE="Two400"]

If people want to call Avril punk, it's not the end of the world.

Personally, I'd love it if Avril was in a short skirt....standing in front of me....err oops. Anyway. Rock on Avril!

X360PS3AMD05

it's statements like this that confuses me. i don't understand how people can think she's hot.

The image Dude shes so hot:|

That's every girl without make-up..........

no it's not. i've seen so many chicks that look good without make-up.
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10% fake punk... years ago.
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#18 2FacedJanus
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im not judging anyone, I would just like them to give me a good reason that avril is punk in any way

Film-Guy

Give me a good reason why what you call punk is punk in any way.
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Yeah, her music is nothing like Blink 182 and Greenday.
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#20 2FacedJanus
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Yeah, her music is nothing like Blink 182 and Greenday.Erasorn

I think what the topic creator refers to as punk are bands like: UK Subs, Sex Pistols, Rancid etc.

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#21 Erasorn
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[QUOTE="Erasorn"]Yeah, her music is nothing like Blink 182 and Greenday.2FacedJanus

I think what the topic creator refers to as punk are bands like: UK Subs, Sex Pistols, Rancid etc.

Who? :?
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#22 trav_have
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Hey hey you you I dont think you're punk. No way no way, she's not a puuunk.

God that songs annoying......I even put my response in the lyrics..

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#23 -dark-shadow-
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Isn't Avril pop?
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#24 2FacedJanus
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[QUOTE="2FacedJanus"]

[QUOTE="Erasorn"]Yeah, her music is nothing like Blink 182 and Greenday.Erasorn

I think what the topic creator refers to as punk are bands like: UK Subs, Sex Pistols, Rancid etc.

Who? :?

Sex Pistols arguably started the genre. Go look it up on youtube. "Anarchy In The UK" is a classic, so is "God Save The Queen"

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#25 2FacedJanus
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For the rest of you as well, Punks:

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#26 Film-Guy
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I dont consider clothes punk or a representation of the music you listen to, band shirts sure, but not stuff like torn jeans and all black clothes
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#27 2FacedJanus
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I dont consider clothes punk or a representation of the music you listen to, band shirts sure, but not stuff like torn jeans and all black clothesFilm-Guy

Was not the idea of it, just illustrating for those thinking that greenday and stuff is punk, that there was/is also another kind of punk way earlier. You still failed to reply to my demand: "Give me a good reason why what you call punk is punk in any way."

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#28 booshdy
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better question: people actually care about anything to do with her?

her music is about as exiting as that turd i had lastnight.

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#29 Film-Guy
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[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]I dont consider clothes punk or a representation of the music you listen to, band shirts sure, but not stuff like torn jeans and all black clothes2FacedJanus

Was not the idea of it, just illustrating for those thinking that greenday and stuff is punk, that there was/is also another kind of punk way earlier. You still failed to reply to my demand: "Give me a good reason why what you call punk is punk in any way."

honestlly I really dont know how the bands I like are more punk, I guess its that they are less outspoken. Punk bands these days like to think that people care about their opinions outside their music, like green days lead singer talking against the U.S government in interviews even though what he says is what we already know and I doubt he knows what he is talking about. Those kinda bands are almost too streamlined, Punk to me is just a bunch of people playing music together, whether it be smart or political, and not making a big deal about it.

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#30 Film-Guy
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better question: people actually care about anything to do with her?

her music is about as exiting as that turd i had lastnight.

booshdy

oh she is very popular in a lot of places

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^^ Speaks the truth

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[QUOTE="Two400"]

If people want to call Avril punk, it's not the end of the world.

Personally, I'd love it if Avril was in a short skirt....standing in front of me....err oops. Anyway. Rock on Avril!

dooly420

it's statements like this that confuses me. i don't understand how people can think she's hot.

Name a girl you think is hot. ^_-

Personally I find her really hot, mostly because I like that "rockish" style of hers.

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#33 Mr_Mohawk
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Punk rock sold out en mass in the 90s, had all of its social conscious and its venom sucked out, then spat back in the form of blink 182. Some of the few actual punk bands to survive are the exploited and rancid. It is ironic that what so many called punk's renaissance was actually its death.

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You just have to understand the punxxx
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#35 Hinata237
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Avril Lavigne isn't punk. Her music is great but she's definitely not 'punk'.
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#36 Ilived
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Who cares? As long as she's hot. Besides, punk music is one of the most ugliest music out there.
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#37 Mr_Mohawk
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Who cares? As long as she's hot. Besides, punk music is one of the most ugliest music out there.Ilived

I'd argue that punk isoften deliberately ugly. It's not supposed to be a catchy pop song you put on in the background, its raw anger that makes one want to smash stuff.

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#38 zepman71
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[QUOTE="Ilived"]Who cares? As long as she's hot. Besides, punk music is one of the most ugliest music out there.Mr_Mohawk

I'd argue that punk isoften deliberately ugly. It's not supposed to be a catchy pop song you put on in the background, its raw anger that makes one want to smash stuff.

Hardcore punk is more suited for that purpose

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#39 Apathetic_Prick
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She isn't punk because her music is lite-grunge and pop rock. Plain and simple. To be punk requires an absolute lack of trust of higher authority, and it's basically all about teh express of that distrust and disdain. I won't even mention lack of conformity because punk is and always has been its own clique.
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#40 Lockedge
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Man, she grew up about 30 minutes away from where I live. The amount of her music played on the radio is ridiculous...at least whenever she releases an album. At the end of the day though, I'd take her over Nickelback, Hedley or 3 Days Grace.
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#41 club-sandwich
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lol, avril lavigne won't be punk, never!
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#42 hip-hop-cola2
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its funny when shes on tv, my mum used to be punk...

" if she came and played in one of our clubs they'd just spit at her!"

lol... my mum is cool

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Avril is not punk. Simple Plan is punk;)
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#44 Film-Guy
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Avril Lavigne isn't punk. Her music is great but she's definitely not 'punk'.Hinata237

what makes her music great? Im just curious, im not trying to flame or anything.

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#45 Hinata237
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[QUOTE="Hinata237"]Avril Lavigne isn't punk. Her music is great but she's definitely not 'punk'.Film-Guy

what makes her music great? Im just curious, im not trying to flame or anything.


I like her songs, she has a good voice.
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#46 MoonSpoon
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Hey Hinata237, why did you pretend to be a girl.
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she is punk. isnt she?? ok she dresses that way, but her songs are pop.
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#48 spazzx625
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Avril Lavigne is just as punk as most bands considered punk today, so I don't really sweat it.