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#1 miketheroman142
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Topic. Think about teh securities we have in Canada and then Mexico. Big difference.

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If you're illegal I don't give a rats arse what nationality you are you should be sent back to which you've come. /thread and thread fails.

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#3 shaza91
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If you're illegal, you're illegal. And illegals should be deported, white, brown, yellow, green, or blue.
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#4 DarthSnipa
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By classifying all illegal immigrants as Mexicans, you, good sir, are a racist.
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#5 MattUD1
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Gimme a sec so I can try and find the logic you used to group an entire segment of people of various backgrounds as a "race"... Actually, scratch that.
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#6 AnotherKill
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If you're illegal, you're illegal. And illegals should be deported, white, brown, yellow, green, or blue.shaza91

I agree :P

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If you're illegal I don't give a rats arse what nationality you are you should be sent back to which you've come. /thread and thread fails.

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If you're illegal I don't give a rats arse what nationality you are you should be sent back to which you've come. /thread and thread fails.

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Oh my god I actually agree with this guy.

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I just want you to think about this. On the U.S. southern border, there is a wall, the national guard, and other defensive placements. On the norther border, Canada, there is nothing: no wall, no guard, no anything. All that is there are just a few checkpoints to show your passport, license, and Birth Certificate. Any do you know why? Because Mexicans are hispanics who are not white and generally poor. On the other hand, Canada is a white and rich nation. Now, i know that there isn't a mass influx of Canadians coming to the border, but think about why there isn't a fence on the border between Canada and the U.S.: racism.

Anyways, illegal immigrants do all the jobs the stuck up white people that make up america don't want to do. They are a humble, hardworking group whojust want to feed their families. They aren't taking your job, unless you are a du*****.*Picks up flame shield, bowl of popcorn and relaxes

miketheroman142

Its illegal, you violate our laws you are a criminal. There have been numerous incidents where Americans were killed because some illegal immigrant was drinking and driving and killed teenage Americans. Others like where those 4 kids were shot execution style by an Illegal immigrant.

Its not being racist, its simple if you don't follow our laws you are a criminal and deserve to be deported. Not everyone is as hard working as you make it out to be, it is hurting our economy.

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Mass amounts of illegals are a problem. Almost all illegals are coming from Mexico. That makes Mexico the main problem. Therefore, we target the problem, Mexico, so we can solve it. If we didn't do this, the problem would not be solved.

You are ignorant, and you suck at arguing. Now go to school, learn, and come back. Thank you.

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#11 Cube_of_MooN
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Really. So if I support deporting illegal immigrants of all races I'm racist? Against what race exactly?
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Really. So if I support deporting illegal immigrants of all races I'm racist? Against what race exactly?Cube_of_MooN

He doesn't understand what he is going on about.

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Mass amounts of illegals are a problem. Almost all illegals are coming from Mexico. That makes Mexico the main problem. Therefore, we target the problem, Mexico, so we can solve it. If we didn't do this, the problem would not be solved.

You are ignorant, and you suck at arguing. Now go to school, learn, and come back. Thank you.

its_me_

Yes but if you saw an illegal immigrant from Canada would you call the police and deport the person? What if they were Hispanic? I know for a fact there would be different outcomes.

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Illegal is illegal....has NOTHING to do with being racist.:|
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#15 KillaHalo2o9
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I think all of America should be deported, because this was the Native Americans land first.
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I am indifferent. On one hand its a tremendous waste of money building a wall on our southern border that will not be affective.. Not to mention illegals have very little affect on our economy.. And they certainly arn't taking our jobs. Mixed subject..
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#17 its_me_
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Mass amounts of illegals are a problem. Almost all illegals are coming from Mexico. That makes Mexico the main problem. Therefore, we target the problem, Mexico, so we can solve it. If we didn't do this, the problem would not be solved.

You are ignorant, and you suck at arguing. Now go to school, learn, and come back. Thank you.

miketheroman142

Yes but if you saw an illegal immigrant from Canada would you call the police and deport the person? What if they were Hispanic? I know for a fact there would be different outcomes.

No you don't. You're not even making sense...If i "saw" an illegal immigrant? Go to school.

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I just want you to think about this. On the U.S. southern border, there is a wall, the national guard, and other defensive placements. On the norther border, Canada, there is nothing: no wall, no guard, no anything. All that is there are just a few checkpoints to show your passport, license, and Birth Certificate. Any do you know why? Because Mexicans are hispanics who are not white and generally poor. On the other hand, Canada is a white and rich nation. Now, i know that there isn't a mass influx of Canadians coming to the border, but think about why there isn't a fence on the border between Canada and the U.S.: racism.

Anyways, illegal immigrants do all the jobs the stuck up white people that make up america don't want to do. They are a humble, hardworking group whojust want to feed their families. They aren't taking your job, unless you are a du*****.*Picks up flame shield, bowl of popcorn and relaxes

miketheroman142

"Now, i know that there isn't a mass influx of Canadians coming to the border, but think about why there isn't a fence on the border between Canada and the U.S.: racism."

Canadians don't have a reason to jump the border. The Canadian government treats its citizens well and has a good economy. The Mexican governement treats a lot of its citizens very poorly and has an unstable economy. Mexicans are running to the USA en masse because the USA treats its citizens way better than the Mexican government does. All those Mexicans running to the USA have a good reason to do so, but they should do it through legal channels.

I agree most Mexicans are good, hard working people. They have some great cultural contributions to make to the US. But, let's be real here, man. A lot of Mexiacans are breaking the law by crossing the border illegally. Having border security where there is an obvious problem isn't racist. It's necessary to address criminal behavior with law enforcement. Quit playing that racist card. Don't flame the US for enforcing it's immigration laws. Flame the Mexican government for not enforcing its own border laws and treating its citizenry with disdain.

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#19 UrbanSpartan125
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I am indifferent. On one hand its a tremendous waste of money building a wall on our southern border that will not be affective.. Not to mention illegals have very little affect on our economy.. And they certainly arn't taking our jobs. Mixed subject..sSubZerOo
It has a very large effect on our economy, our money that was here in the US is now being sent back in most cases to the country they came from. It is helping their economy but detrimental to ours.
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#20 miketheroman142
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[QUOTE="miketheroman142"][QUOTE="its_me_"]

Mass amounts of illegals are a problem. Almost all illegals are coming from Mexico. That makes Mexico the main problem. Therefore, we target the problem, Mexico, so we can solve it. If we didn't do this, the problem would not be solved.

You are ignorant, and you suck at arguing. Now go to school, learn, and come back. Thank you.

its_me_

Yes but if you saw an illegal immigrant from Canada would you call the police and deport the person? What if they were Hispanic? I know for a fact there would be different outcomes.

No you don't. You're not even making sense...If i "saw" an illegal immigrant? Go to school.

Saw is not the best term for it... it would probably found out. But answer the question instead of trying to fix my grammar.

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Yes but if you saw an illegal immigrant from Canada would you call the police and deport the person? What if they were Hispanic? I know for a fact there would be different outcomes.miketheroman142

How do you "see" an illegal immigrant? You mean, like, I approach a random stranger, demand to see a green card or proof of citizenship, and they refuse?

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[QUOTE="miketheroman142"]

I just want you to think about this. On the U.S. southern border, there is a wall, the national guard, and other defensive placements. On the norther border, Canada, there is nothing: no wall, no guard, no anything. All that is there are just a few checkpoints to show your passport, license, and Birth Certificate. Any do you know why? Because Mexicans are hispanics who are not white and generally poor. On the other hand, Canada is a white and rich nation. Now, i know that there isn't a mass influx of Canadians coming to the border, but think about why there isn't a fence on the border between Canada and the U.S.: racism.

Anyways, illegal immigrants do all the jobs the stuck up white people that make up america don't want to do. They are a humble, hardworking group whojust want to feed their families. They aren't taking your job, unless you are a du*****.*Picks up flame shield, bowl of popcorn and relaxes

iwokojance

"Now, i know that there isn't a mass influx of Canadians coming to the border, but think about why there isn't a fence on the border between Canada and the U.S.: racism."

Canadians don't have a reason to jump the border. The Canadian government treats its citizens well and has a good economy. The Mexican governement treats a lot of its citizens very poorly and has an unstable economy. Mexicans are running to the USA en masse because the USA treats its citizens way better than the Mexican government does. All those Mexicans running to the USA have a good reason to do so, but they should do it through legal channels.

I agree most Mexicans are good, hard working people. They have some great cultural contributions to make to the US. But, let's be real here, man. A lot of Mexiacans are breaking the law by crossing the border illegally. Having border security where there is an obvious problem isn't racist. It's necessary to address criminal behavior with law enforcement. Quit playing that racist card. Don't flame the US for enforcing it's immigration laws. Flame the Mexican government for not enforcing its own border laws and treating its citizenry with disdain.

Any one else though see it absolutely stupid as hell to build a wall only spanning 700 miles of a 2000 mile border.. A wall that isn't even that sturdy at that.. I have seen pictures of that wall and what they are using.. The fact of the matter is two guys could get over the wall in a half hour tops.. Hell they could probably go through the wall with minimal equipment.

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Any one else though see it absolutely stupid as hell to build a wall only spanning 700 miles of a 2000 mile border.. A wall that isn't even that sturdy at that.. I have seen pictures of that wall and what they are using.. The fact of the matter is two guys could get over the wall in a half hour tops.. Hell they could probably go through the wall with minimal equipment.sSubZerOo

Gotta keep the Mongorians out.

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i'm racist because i don't want ILLEGAL immigrants stealing our jobs, getting free healthcare, and sending money they earn back to mexico, thus hurting our economy?
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#25 Shiggums
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This is...kinda dumb TC :|

I don't think people that want illegal immigrants (of ANY ethnic background) deported are racists.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Any one else though see it absolutely stupid as hell to build a wall only spanning 700 miles of a 2000 mile border.. A wall that isn't even that sturdy at that.. I have seen pictures of that wall and what they are using.. The fact of the matter is two guys could get over the wall in a half hour tops.. Hell they could probably go through the wall with minimal equipment.Oleg_Huzwog

LMFAO, I laughed at that. Heh heh. South Park.

Gotta keep the Mongorians out.

Eh, stupid comp didn't post. I said,

LMAO I laughed when I saw that. Heh, South Park.

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[QUOTE="its_me_"][QUOTE="miketheroman142"][QUOTE="its_me_"]

Mass amounts of illegals are a problem. Almost all illegals are coming from Mexico. That makes Mexico the main problem. Therefore, we target the problem, Mexico, so we can solve it. If we didn't do this, the problem would not be solved.

You are ignorant, and you suck at arguing. Now go to school, learn, and come back. Thank you.

miketheroman142

Yes but if you saw an illegal immigrant from Canada would you call the police and deport the person? What if they were Hispanic? I know for a fact there would be different outcomes.

No you don't. You're not even making sense...If i "saw" an illegal immigrant? Go to school.

Saw is not the best term for it... it would probably found out. But answer the question instead of trying to fix my grammar.

If I knew that a white Canadian was illegal, I would report him to ICE, because it is against the law for him to be in the country. If I knew that a Mexican was illegal, I would report him to ICE, because it is against the law for him to be in the country. They're both working a job that could be held by a citizen, and they're both receiving government benefits that could be received by a citizen. You're looking too hard for racism...there isn't any. it's a question of THE LAW, which has evidently been forgotten.

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#28 miketheroman142
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[QUOTE="miketheroman142"]

I just want you to think about this. On the U.S. southern border, there is a wall, the national guard, and other defensive placements. On the norther border, Canada, there is nothing: no wall, no guard, no anything. All that is there are just a few checkpoints to show your passport, license, and Birth Certificate. Any do you know why? Because Mexicans are hispanics who are not white and generally poor. On the other hand, Canada is a white and rich nation. Now, i know that there isn't a mass influx of Canadians coming to the border, but think about why there isn't a fence on the border between Canada and the U.S.: racism.

Anyways, illegal immigrants do all the jobs the stuck up white people that make up america don't want to do. They are a humble, hardworking group whojust want to feed their families. They aren't taking your job, unless you are a du*****.*Picks up flame shield, bowl of popcorn and relaxes

iwokojance

"Now, i know that there isn't a mass influx of Canadians coming to the border, but think about why there isn't a fence on the border between Canada and the U.S.: racism."

Canadians don't have a reason to jump the border. The Canadian government treats its citizens well and has a good economy. The Mexican governement treats a lot of its citizens very poorly and has an unstable economy. Mexicans are running to the USA en masse because the USA treats its citizens way better than the Mexican government does. All those Mexicans running to the USA have a good reason to do so, but they should do it through legal channels.

I agree most Mexicans are good, hard working people. They have some great cultural contributions to make to the US. But, let's be real here, man. A lot of Mexiacans are breaking the law by crossing the border illegally. Having border security where there is an obvious problem isn't racist. It's necessary to address criminal behavior with law enforcement. Quit playing that racist card. Don't flame the US for enforcing it's immigration laws. Flame the Mexican government for not enforcing its own border laws and treating its citizenry with disdain.

sorry for the double post, but you bring up an excellent point. Remember though, that Canada is considered a foreign country, just like Mexico. But before the "national security threat" wall thing, there was a huge difference in the border security between Mexico and Canada. Oh yeah, and i have an epic flame shield, so don't bother flaming everyone else. It has a picture of an enchilada, which this topic will now be directed to be about.

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You think you're being called racist now, wait and see how bad it's going to get if Obama loses to McCain. Every white person in America that didn't vote for him will be branded a racist.

Look, illegals need to go home. Come here the proper way, or don't come here at all.

http://www.nysun.com/news/new-york/illegal-alien-sues-saying-nypd-called-feds

Click that link, it's a story I posted a few days ago. An illegal alien, a criminal, is suing the NYPD for reporting him to the Feds. Wait for it, he's not hispanic. He's from the West Bank.

Oops.

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I don't like that they're illegal. I think we should make it easier to become a citizen.
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At some point people who are totaly against illegal immigrants should think like parents. If the situation was reversed I'd have my a@@ down in Mexico or up in Canada if it could better my family's life, my 3 children's future is the most important thing in my life, period. Is it their fault where they are born? Now I think we need some control of it, but to take 5-10 years to become a citizen is crazy. And watch what happens to our already wobbly economy if we just ship 8-10 million people away.
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i'm racist because i don't want ILLEGAL immigrants stealing our jobs, getting free healthcare, and sending money they earn back to mexico, thus hurting our economy?shoeman12

Illegal immigrants don't steal our jobs.. I didn't realize fruit picking was a enjoyable and high demand job :|.... If this were true our unemployment rate wouldn't be at 5% which it has been for a very very long time.. It would be in the 15 or 20%

I not sure, how do they get free health care? The hospital if the person has been injured, only stabalizes them.. Thats about it.. If you must blame someone, blame the corporations that are abusing them..

You guys want to hear a kicker? The company that was contracted to build the wall, the government threw some huge figure at them.. They would keep what they didn't use in the production as profit.. Here is the funny thing, they got caught using illegals to build the wall to cut production costs... Maybe we should start blaming the corporations?

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At some point people who are totaly against illegal immigrants should think like parents. If the situation was reversed I'd have my a@@ down in Mexico or up in Canada if it could better my family's life, my 3 children's future is the most important thing in my life, period. Is it their fault where they are born? Now I think we need some control of it, but to take 5-10 years to become a citizen is crazy. And watch what happens to our already wobbly economy if we just ship 8-10 million people away.btaylor2404

Then do it legally. :|

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[QUOTE="btaylor2404"]At some point people who are totaly against illegal immigrants should think like parents. If the situation was reversed I'd have my a@@ down in Mexico or up in Canada if it could better my family's life, my 3 children's future is the most important thing in my life, period. Is it their fault where they are born? Now I think we need some control of it, but to take 5-10 years to become a citizen is crazy. And watch what happens to our already wobbly economy if we just ship 8-10 million people away.LJS9502_basic

Then do it legally. :|

Right now if a huge famine struck and everyone in the U.S. became poor and hungry and no one cared enough for the U.S. to help, would you cross the Mexican border illegally? Or do you only follow the law when it helps you?

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Laws exsist for a reason, all do.
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Right now if a huge famine struck and everyone in the U.S. became poor and hungry and no one cared enough for the U.S. to help, would you cross the Mexican border illegally? Or do you only follow the law when it helps you?

miketheroman142

Laws are laws for a reason. Just because something isn't going my way doesn't give me the right to break the law. If my car needs repairs...should I ditch it and take yours?

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#37 Psychadelichaos
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who cares? if i knew any illegal immigrants id curb them

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#38 Junkie_man
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Although one cannot have a welfare state and open borders, this can be blown out of proportion. America is a very rich and relatively sparsely populated country, so it's hardly facing an impending crisis due to immigration.

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So, what if the illegal immigrant is a child rapist? Makes me racist for deporting him (skin color doesn't matter.) What if he was a terrorist? You really need to check in a hospital, dude..
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If you're illegal I don't give a rats arse what nationality you are you should be sent back to which you've come. /thread and thread fails.

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Unless theyre refugees who would be killed if they went back...
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#41 miketheroman142
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So, what if the illegal immigrant is a child rapist? Makes me racist for deporting him (skin color doesn't matter.) What if he was a terrorist? You really need to check in a hospital, dude..Wolf-Man2006

i'm not saying illegal immigrants are gods or anything, all i am doing is pointing out the difference in the Canadian and Mexican border security.

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#42 nickyb628
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If you're illegal I don't give a rats arse what nationality you are you should be sent back to which you've come. /thread and thread fails.

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Agreed and...

If you're illegal, you're illegal. And illegals should be deported, white, brown, yellow, green, or blue.shaza91

Touche...

By classifying all illegal immigrants as Mexicans, you, good sir, are a racist.DarthSnipa

Precisely.

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#43 Wolf-Man2006
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It doesn't matter. Illegal immigration is illegal immigration no matter where you are. I could care less about Canadian illegal immigration (its Mexico's that we should worry most about.)
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#44 LJS9502_basic  Online
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[QUOTE="Wolf-Man2006"]So, what if the illegal immigrant is a child rapist? Makes me racist for deporting him (skin color doesn't matter.) What if he was a terrorist? You really need to check in a hospital, dude..miketheroman142

i'm not saying illegal immigrants are gods or anything, all i am doing is pointing out the difference in the Canadian and Mexican border security.

The only difference is the Canadian goverment helps their people maintain a standard of living. The Mexican government does not. It's not about the race dude. Your analogy is totally flawed. Next time consider some facts.;)

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#45 MarineJcksn
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Although one cannot have a welfare state and open borders, this can be blown out of proportion. America is a very rich and relatively sparsely populated country, so it's hardly facing an impending crisis due to immigration.

Junkie_man

Except for the drugs, criminals, diseases, you know.....small issues.:|

You do know it's been pretty much proven HIV came to this country across the Southern Border...

We're developing diseases that were eradicated in America 50 years ago, you don't see any issue with that?

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[QUOTE="Junkie_man"]

Although one cannot have a welfare state and open borders, this can be blown out of proportion. America is a very rich and relatively sparsely populated country, so it's hardly facing an impending crisis due to immigration.

MarineJcksn

Except for the drugs, criminals, diseases, you know.....small issues.:|

You do know it's been pretty much proven HIV came to this country across the Southern Border...

We're developing diseases that were eradicated in America 50 years ago, you don't see any issue with that?

Drugs can't be stopped inless we made a very high wall.. Even then there is a huge pipe line through the florida keys..

Criminals.. Agreed, but the vast majority of peopleare not criminals..

Dieases.. Nothing the US already has.. HIV did not come across the southern border.. The original guy who had it was a nympho maniac that was a flight attendent.

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#47 miketheroman142
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[QUOTE="Junkie_man"]

Although one cannot have a welfare state and open borders, this can be blown out of proportion. America is a very rich and relatively sparsely populated country, so it's hardly facing an impending crisis due to immigration.

MarineJcksn

Except for the drugs, criminals, diseases, you know.....small issues.:|

You do know it's been pretty much proven HIV came to this country across the Southern Border...

We're developing diseases that were eradicated in America 50 years ago, you don't see any issue with that?

Your sig is not very nice

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#48 DarthSnipa
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="btaylor2404"]At some point people who are totaly against illegal immigrants should think like parents. If the situation was reversed I'd have my a@@ down in Mexico or up in Canada if it could better my family's life, my 3 children's future is the most important thing in my life, period. Is it their fault where they are born? Now I think we need some control of it, but to take 5-10 years to become a citizen is crazy. And watch what happens to our already wobbly economy if we just ship 8-10 million people away.miketheroman142

Then do it legally. :|

Right now if a huge famine struck and everyone in the U.S. became poor and hungry and no one cared enough for the U.S. to help, would you cross the Mexican border illegally? Or do you only follow the law when it helps you?

If no one cared enough to help the US? Being Canadian, I find that extremely funny.

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#49 Food_Nipple
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No we aren't. If they're here illegally, then they shouldn't be. It doesn't matter what their race is.
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#50 Link256
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So why is that? Where is your proof? Argument? Examples? Studies? Until you come table with foundations I have listed, as far as I am concerned, your credibility is, at best, low on the totem pole.

Otherwise, whether or not illegal immigration is "right" or "wrong," stop race bating, and stick to the real debate at hand, okay?