People who live outside the USA: what do you think of republicans vs. democrats?

I wanted to know what people outside of the USA think of issues in American politics. What do you think of obama? What do you think of republican conservatism vs. democrat liberalism?

I'm going to assume that they have grown tired of hearing about it on these forums everyday.

I find the whole two-party system ridiculous - it polarizes people and creates this Democrat vs. Republican mentality, as if they were enemies or something.It's a forced-choice situation that doesn't allow for most people to find their own political niche that better fits their beliefs. For example, if you're socially liberal yet fiscally conservative, which party are you supposed to vote for?

The Republicans don't have a very good reputation in Finland, mainly due to your previous president. Obama, however, is still hugely popular.

Personally, I can't stand the ultra-conservative, gay-bashing, pro-life Republicans. Why can't they just let people live their personal lives as they choose to?

I find the whole two-party system ridiculous - it polarizes people and creates this Democrat vs. Republican mentality, as if they were enemies or something.It's a forced-choice situation that doesn't allow for most people to find their own political niche that better fits their beliefs. For example, if you're socially liberal yet fiscally conservative, which party are you supposed to vote for?

The Republicans don't have a very good reputation in Finland, mainly due to your previous president. Obama, however, is still hugely popular.

Personally, I can't stand the ultra-conservative, gay-bashing, pro-life Republicans. Why can't they just let people live their personal lives as they choose to?

callekula12

republicans are white people who live in the past and believe their race still controls this country. they also believe that everyone in the world are christian god fearing people. they love god and aren't comfortable unless they are in a war. see the irony there.

I don't follow American politics. (No, I don't know why i posted in this thread.)

And religion influences waay to much politics in the states in my opinion. It isn't secular enough.RushMetallica

republicans are white people who live in the past and believe their race still controls this country. they also believe that everyone in the world are christian god fearing people. they love god and aren't comfortable unless they are in a war. see the irony there.

bokiloki

You're serious? :|

republicans are white people who live in the past and believe their race still controls this country. they also believe that everyone in the world are christian god fearing people. they love god and aren't comfortable unless they are in a war. see the irony there.

bokiloki

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republicans are white people who live in the past and believe their race still controls this country. they also believe that everyone in the world are christian god fearing people. they love god and aren't comfortable unless they are in a war. see the irony there.

QiiXii

You're serious? :|

It certainly looks like it...:shock:

i hate obama :x he betrayed iranians on recent unrests,.i can't believe he's going for a talk with a coup government

republicans are white people who live in the past and believe their race still controls this country. they also believe that everyone in the world are christian god fearing people. they love god and aren't comfortable unless they are in a war. see the irony there.

bokiloki

[QUOTE="RushMetallica"] And religion influences waay to much politics in the states in my opinion. It isn't secular enough.Snake_1222

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[QUOTE="RushMetallica"] And religion influences waay to much politics in the states in my opinion. It isn't secular enough.RushMetallica

America as a country is generally more right-wing than the UK. At the moment your Republicans are probably further right than our tories. Bush is seen as a disaster, and hedefinitely harmed your nation's reputation. Obama's still popular, as are his healthcare reforms since not having the NHS (though we do know his proposal is very different) is unthinkable over here.The UKis far more secular thanAmerica, despite your separation of Church and State and the factthat we still have bishops in the House of Lords. It wouldn'thurt a party leader's chances too much if he were an atheist, for example.

Too much religion mixed with politics.
The two party system is also something I'm iffy about because I wouldn't be surprised if there were many republicans who voted down a democrat bill just because its a democrat bill and not thinking about the rest of the country and vice versa.

[QUOTE="RushMetallica"][QUOTE="Snake_1222"] Hmm interesting would you explain in what way does religion influence politics in the States? I don't like Obama...I think that he got elected just because he is black...

LJS9502_basic

I some states maybe, but not all, and that I don't agree with. And even though abortion is legal, it just seems to me that religion is taken to serious down there, like you pretty much have to be christian to be president.

RushMetallica

[QUOTE="RushMetallica"] And religion influences waay to much politics in the states in my opinion. It isn't secular enough.Snake_1222

OF COURSE he did! I mean, it is always such a benefit being black here.

I can just walk down the street and people say "Wow! A black man! I want to hang out with him and make him a sandwich."

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[QUOTE="RushMetallica"] And religion influences waay to much politics in the states in my opinion. It isn't secular enough.TBoogy

OF COURSE he did! I mean, it is always such a benefit being black here.

I can just walk down the street and people say "Wow! A black man! I want to hang out with him and make him a sandwich."

Ok I get the sarcasm :roll:
But most of African americans voted for obama because he was black...Their vote had nothing to do with his reforms...I think that there wasn't a lot of black people voting for McCain...

republicans are white people who live in the past and believe their race still controls this country. they also believe that everyone in the world are christian god fearing people. they love god and aren't comfortable unless they are in a war. see the irony there.

bokiloki

wow you are showing just how ignorant on the subject matter you are. the current head of the GOP is a black man.

I dislike both sides... If I had to make a choice I would pick democrat even though I disagree with more than a few of their policies.

[QUOTE="RushMetallica"][QUOTE="Snake_1222"] Hmm interesting would you explain in what way does religion influence politics in the States? I don't like Obama...I think that he got elected just because he is black...

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="RushMetallica"] Not the entire, but it seems as if it is halting progressoin, like say abortion, or homosexual marriage. Now these things are entirely my opinion, and religion might not be the reason for everyone to oppose those things, but it definetly doesn't help.hamstergeddon

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="RushMetallica"] Not the entire, but it seems as if it is halting progressoin, like say abortion, or homosexual marriage. Now these things are entirely my opinion, and religion might not be the reason for everyone to oppose those things, but it definetly doesn't help.hamstergeddon

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]But abortion is legal and gay marriage is in some states.crazboy84

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]But abortion is legal and gay marriage is in some states.Snake_1222

because the Supreme Court still upheld the Roe v. Wade case. Believe me, they tried.hamstergeddon

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[QUOTE="Snake_1222"] I don't like Obama...I think that he got elected just because he is black...

Snake_1222

OF COURSE he did! I mean, it is always such a benefit being black here.

I can just walk down the street and people say "Wow! A black man! I want to hang out with him and make him a sandwich."

Ok I get the sarcasm :roll:
But most of African americans voted for obama because he was black...Their vote had nothing to do with his reforms...I think that there wasn't a lot of black people voting for McCain...

Glad you picked up on the sarcasm.

As has been pointed out in these forums many times before, yes, few blacks voted for McCain. Few blacks EVER vote Republican in recent decades.

And even if ever black person voted Obama, and ever black person that could voted, we are still only 15% of the population. We cannot decide an election on our own.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]But abortion is legal and gay marriage is in some states.crazboy84

My thoughts exactly. >_>

I live in the US and I think it's all stupid.

[QUOTE="crazboy84"][QUOTE="hamstergeddon"] It wouldn't be if the Republicans had their way!

Theokhoth

My thoughts exactly. >_>

I have long said that the Republican party is suckering the religous right on abortion. The use it to build a voter base, but they are never actually going to do anything about it.

Like was pointed out, if they wanted to they could have. Even has a right leaning supreme court. Republicans had complete and total control for years, and nothing.

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[QUOTE="crazboy84"] we had a republican pres for 8 years, 2 of those years we had majority in the house and senate, why is there still abortion?TBoogy

My thoughts exactly. >_>

I have long said that the Republican party is suckering the religous right on abortion. The use it to build a voter base, but they are never actually going to do anything about it.

Like was pointed out, if they wanted to they could have. Even has a right leaning supreme court. Republicans had complete and total control for years, and nothing.

Yes, and it pisses me off almost as much as the damn thing being allowed in the first place. Roe only passed by one vote and yet they wouldn't do a thing when they had it all in the bag.

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My thoughts exactly. >_>

Theokhoth

I have long said that the Republican party is suckering the religous right on abortion. The use it to build a voter base, but they are never actually going to do anything about it.

Like was pointed out, if they wanted to they could have. Even has a right leaning supreme court. Republicans had complete and total control for years, and nothing.

Yes, and it pisses me off almost as much as the damn thing being allowed in the first place. Roe only passed by one vote and yet they wouldn't do a thing when they had it all in the bag.

The Republican party is about money. And those Doctors doing the abortions have it. The party will talk the talk, but when it gets down to it, they want the money that the practice generates. They could care less about the issue really.

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I have long said that the Republican party is suckering the religous right on abortion. The use it to build a voter base, but they are never actually going to do anything about it.

Like was pointed out, if they wanted to they could have. Even has a right leaning supreme court. Republicans had complete and total control for years, and nothing.

TBoogy

Yes, and it pisses me off almost as much as the damn thing being allowed in the first place. Roe only passed by one vote and yet they wouldn't do a thing when they had it all in the bag.

The Republican party is about money. And those Doctors doing the abortions have it. The party will talk the talk, but when it gets down to it, they want the money that the practice generates. They could care less about the issue really.

Democrats are the same thing, with one difference in tactics: Blame the Republicans. That was Obama's whole campaign: "We live in Hell and it's the Republicans' fault! But don't worry; I'll fix it!"

It's nothing but a continuous turf war.