Perhaps the greatest fight of the year, only four days left.

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#1 m25105
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I'm talking about Fedor Emelianenko vs. Dan Henderson.

Let's start with the fighters and you will see what I mean when I say this might be the greatest fight of the year.

First we have Dan "Hendo" Henderson, a very good olympic greco-roman wrestler, who has won gold and silver in Pan American Championships and the World Cup in greco-roman wrestling.

Henderson has then moved on to a very solid MMA career, noted for his chin (He has never been knocked out), a very strong mind and a powerful right hand that knocks everyone out once it connects.

His MMA record stands at 27 wins 8 losses. 12 of his wins are by knockouts, his losses are 5 decisions and 3 submissions. He's 3 time Pride FC champion, a former UFC champion and current Strikeforce Light Heavyweight champion. Henderson is noted for fighting in different weight****s, having won championships in welterweight, middleweight and light heavyweight.

His opponent is Fedor "The Russian Experiment" Emelianenko.

Fedor, is black belt in Judo, having won bronze in the world cup of Judo, but where he excells at is Sambo. A russian martial art that resembles Judo, winning gold in world combat Sambo championships four time. Fedor is noted is for being able to take the fight anywhere it goes, pulling of quick submissions or defeating his opponents with his heavy hands, his mind coming in to fight is probably one of the best, the man never loses his cool.

His MMA record stands at 31 wins, 3 losses. 8 wins by knockout and 16 wins by submissions, his losses are 1 doctor stoppage, 1 cut and one submission. He's a 2 time Pride FC champion, 2 time Rings champion and a Wamma champion.

Both of these fighters are mentally very tough, have heavy hands and both are very exciting to watch.

This is basically Street Fighter/Tekken come to life. If I got you hyped up for this fight, then remember the date July 30th.

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#2 rooktook
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man i didnt even know this was happining! wow am def watching this.. i got fedor, lets see if he comes back from that loss...

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#3 HoolaHoopMan
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what weight are they fighting at?
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henderson never fought anyone good, and got destroyed by anderson silva. he thinks he's good enough to be paid high when he's a boring fighter. dana white let this cocky fool go which was a good move
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#5 m25105
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what weight are they fighting at? HoolaHoopMan
They will be fighting at heavyweight. That's 205 + pounds, 93,18kg +
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#6 m25105
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henderson never fought anyone good, and got destroyed by anderson silva. he thinks he's good enough to be paid high when he's a boring fighter. dana white let this cocky fool go which was a good movehadoken
Wanderlei Silva, Rich Franklin, Vitor Belfort and Antonio Rodrigo Nogeuira are not good names?
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#7 immortality20
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Fedor's done, the legend is broken. He might win this fight but he's still a coward who didn't want to fight the best in the UFC. Hell Silva can jump up TWO weight classes and still beat him.

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#8 m25105
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Fedor's done, the legend is broken. He might win this fight but he's still a coward who didn't want to fight the best in the UFC. Hell Silva can jump up TWO weight classes and still beat him.

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I see Dana White's smearing is still in effect. Funny enough how even the UFC fighters and champions think differently.
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#9 kev_stevens67
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Not true! The greatest fight of the year happened already...right in my backyard and I was there to witness it. A black spider vs a wasp. The spider won by the way.

That was the greatest fight this year!

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Lesnar vs. Fedor is the match of the year.
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#11 immortality20
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[QUOTE="immortality20"]

Fedor's done, the legend is broken. He might win this fight but he's still a coward who didn't want to fight the best in the UFC. Hell Silva can jump up TWO weight classes and still beat him.

m25105

I see Dana White's smearing is still in effect. Funny enough how even the UFC fighters and champions think differently.

I'm sorry I can't jump on his bandwagon. If he wanted to prove he was the absolute best, UFC is the place to do it. I don't think he'd get by Carwin, Valaesquez, and Lesnar. He even turned down an auto title fight and like couple million a fight. Just so he doesn't have to fight the best.

I wish cross promotion fights weren't a fantasy.

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Dan Henderson has been owned by Anderson Silva, twice. He's a solid fighter, but I wouldnt say he's one of the greatest.

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#13 m25105
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[QUOTE="m25105"][QUOTE="immortality20"]

Fedor's done, the legend is broken. He might win this fight but he's still a coward who didn't want to fight the best in the UFC. Hell Silva can jump up TWO weight classes and still beat him.

immortality20

I see Dana White's smearing is still in effect. Funny enough how even the UFC fighters and champions think differently.

I'm sorry I can't jump on his bandwagon. If he wanted to prove he was the absolute best, UFC is the place to do it. I don't think he'd get by Carwin, Valaesquez, and Lesnar. He even turned down an auto title fight and like couple million a fight. Just so he doesn't have to fight the best.

I wish cross promotion fights weren't a fantasy.

Nope, the answer is pretty simple UFC contracts are exclusive and Fedor wanted to compete in Sambo as he usually does. He's also heavily involved in M1 global to promote Russian MMA fighters. This has nothing to do with fear.

Or let's take Fedor's own words.

"The contract that we were presented with by the UFC was simply impossible, couldn't be signed -- I couldn't leave. If I won, I had to fight eight times in two years.
If I lost one fight, then the UFC had the right to rip up the contract. At the conclusion of the contract, if I am undefeated, then it automatically extends for an as yet unspecified period of time, though for the same compensation."Basically I can't leave undefeated.

I can't give interviews, appear in films or advertising. I don't have the right to do anything without the UFC's agreement. I could do nothing without the OK from the UFC. I didn't have the right to compete in combat sambo competition. It's my national sport. It's the Russian sport, which in his time our president competed in, and I no longer have the right to do so.

There were many such clauses; the contract was 18 pages in length. It was written in such a way that I had absolutely no rights while the UFC could at any moment, if something didn't suit them, tear up the agreement. We worked with lawyers who told us that it was patently impossible to sign such a document."

Fedor

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#14 m25105
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Dan Henderson has been owned by Anderson Silva, twice. He's a solid fighter, but I wouldnt say he's one of the greatest.

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Greatest fight =/= greatest fighter and to my recollection he has fought Anderson Silva only once.
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[QUOTE="m25105"][QUOTE="sonicare"]

Dan Henderson has been owned by Anderson Silva, twice. He's a solid fighter, but I wouldnt say he's one of the greatest.

Greatest fight =/= greatest fighter and to my recollection he has fought Anderson Silva only once.

I thought he fought him twice. He got submitted in the first one, but not sure on the second. However, he did have a tremendous knock out of Bisping in that one fight. But I jsut dont think Henderson has the wrestling/grappling skills to duel with Fedor.
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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]what weight are they fighting at? m25105
They will be fighting at heavyweight. That's 205 + pounds, 93,18kg +

How big could Dan possibly get to? I'm going with Fedor, lets test that "jaw" of Dan's.
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Fedor's done, the legend is broken. He might win this fight but he's still a coward who didn't want to fight the best in the UFC. Hell Silva can jump up TWO weight classes and still beat him.

immortality20
Fedor's resume of ass kicking puts anyone in the UFC to shame. Just look at the talent he's fought, and more importantly how many of those fights was he outweighed by at least 15 pounds? Fedor is a beast and a humble one at that, I find it hard to believe how anyone can knock the man.
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#18 m25105
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[QUOTE="m25105"][QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]what weight are they fighting at? HoolaHoopMan
They will be fighting at heavyweight. That's 205 + pounds, 93,18kg +

How big could Dan possibly get to? I'm going with Fedor, lets test that "jaw" of Dan's.

Fedor is not exactly a very big heavy weight either, Hendo according to interviews accepted it too, he declined a catch weight, so it's not like he can later blame it on the weight. According to interviews Hendo aims to weigh around 206 pounds for the fight.
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[QUOTE="m25105"][QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="m25105"] They will be fighting at heavyweight. That's 205 + pounds, 93,18kg +

How big could Dan possibly get to? I'm going with Fedor, lets test that "jaw" of Dan's.

Fedor is not exactly a very big heavy weight either, Hendo according to interviews accepted it too, he declined a catch weight, so it's not like he can later blame it on the weight. According to interviews Hendo aims to weigh around 206 pounds for the fight.

Wow 206? Fedor usually rounds in around 230 I thought.
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Fedors record is decent but in the past few years it hasnt been great, his managment did duck the UFC for sure. Dana White was going to give him one of the best contracts in MMA with an immediate shot at Lesnar and M1 Global turned it down for the lesser deal at Strikeforce, they definatly were protecting Fedors legacy and win streak. Fedor faught great fighters at one time in his career but the last few years he has been no where near the level of Dos Santos and Lesnar sadly, I hope he kick starts his career though and would like to see him fight in the future.
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Fedors record is decent but in the past few years it hasnt been great, his managment did duck the UFC for sure. Dana White was going to give him one of the best contracts in MMA with an immediate shot at Lesnar and M1 Global turned it down for the lesser deal at Strikeforce, they definatly were protecting Fedors legacy and win streak. Fedor faught great fighters at one time in his career but the last few years he has been no where near the level of Dos Santos and Lesnar sadly, I hope he kick starts his career though and would like to see him fight in the future.V4LENT1NE
What are you talking about? Back in 2008 people were saying the same, how Fedor was afraid to fight Tim Sylvia and Arlovski. Arlovski had won five straight fights in a row, before he fought against Fedor. And he's still fighting top guys. The UFC contract would basically make them own Fedor, something Fedor is not keen on. You put Fedor against Lesnar and Dos Santos and I'll always root for Fedor, the only real threat I see to Fedor is Cain Velasquez.
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Hendo gave Silva some of the best competition that he's faced in the UFC to date. It won Fight of the Night. Even still, who doesn't Silva destroy?
he thinks he's good enough to be paid highhadoken
1997 Brazil Open Lightweight Tournament Winner. 1999 RINGS King of Kings Tournament Winner. UFC 17 Middleweight Tourney Champ. 2005 PRIDE Middleweight GP Champ. PRIDE Middleweight Champ. PRIDE Welterweight Champ. Strikeforce Light Heavy Champ. You mean he's not good enough?
when he's a boring fighterhadoken
Henderson boring? Really? What more could you possibly want from him?
dana white let this cocky fool go which was a good movehadoken
Firstly, Henderson is not cocky. Secondly, Dana didn't just let him go. Henderson wanted to leave because of how Dana operated. There was a lot to that departure. You really need to understand things before you comment on them. Let me guess: you started watching the UFC two months ago and never saw a non-UFC MMA fight?
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Some people seem more excited about Dana White than actual fighters these days.
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[QUOTE="immortality20"]

Fedor's done, the legend is broken. He might win this fight but he's still a coward who didn't want to fight the best in the UFC. Hell Silva can jump up TWO weight classes and still beat him.

1st of all your a fool if you think Fedor is a coward, hes fought guys twice his size and finished them in the ring, the reason why he didnt come to the ufc has already been explained by m25105, As for Anderson silva being able to beat him? what drug were you on that makes you think that? silva is the coward if anything he walks around at about 220 pounds and fights at middleweight he stands at 6ft 2 and is one of the biggest middleweights ever, the only person he ever fought that was bigger than him was Forrest Griffin and forrest was way too slow as always in that fight, Fedor on the other hand has fought guys like Choi Hong man, Zuluzinho, Brett Rogers, Andrei Arlowvski, Tim Sylvia and heath herring, all fights both taller and weighing more than fedor and he destroyed all of them, Why do you think Anderson has only fought at LHW against sub par fighters (no disrespect to forrest but hes more heart than skill) anderson is the coward hes afraid to move up and take on good competition. If Fedor took on Anderson it would not go past the 2nd round Fedor would outwrestle silva worse than a smaller sonnen did and only difference being feodr can finnish fights with only 1 punch. Anderson would get destroyed by fedor, so get you facts straight,
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[QUOTE="dodgerblue13"]Hendo gave Silva some of the best competition that he's faced in the UFC to date. It won Fight of the Night. Even still, who doesn't Silva destroy? [QUOTE="hadoken"] 1997 Brazil Open Lightweight Tournament Winner. 1999 RINGS King of Kings Tournament Winner. UFC 17 Middleweight Tourney Champ. 2005 PRIDE Middleweight GP Champ. PRIDE Middleweight Champ. PRIDE Welterweight Champ. Strikeforce Light Heavy Champ. You mean he's not good enough?
when he's a boring fighterhadoken
Henderson boring? Really? What more could you possibly want from him?
dana white let this cocky fool go which was a good movehadoken
Firstly, Henderson is not cocky. Secondly, Dana didn't just let him go. Henderson wanted to leave because of how Dana operated. There was a lot to that departure. You really need to understand things before you comment on them. Let me guess: you started watching the UFC two months ago and never saw a non-UFC MMA fight?

Henderson hasn't fought anyone good for a long time, he knocked out Bisping, and purposely threw in extra shots after Bisping was knocked out. He has no memorable fights, except when Silva completely destroyed him. Dan Henderson is cocky you just don't know it. When one interviewer asked him what those extra shots were for he said "to shut him up a little bit". Then in another interview he started stuttering and said "you want to make sure they're out." He knew Bisping was out but he's an a**hole and threw more punches. He may have been good back then but he's trash now. Strike Force has been putting him against bad opponents. The main reason for Dana letting him go was because he wanted to be paid more. It was clearly said in an interview by Dana White that Dan Henderson said he should be getting paid as much as Rampage, and Dana said himself that he doesn't draw in PPV sales. Btw I started watching MMA with the WEC and before Urijah Faber was famous. Let me guess you started watching UFC when Lesnar came in right?
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Fedor's done, the legend is broken. He might win this fight but he's still a coward who didn't want to fight the best in the UFC. Hell Silva can jump up TWO weight classes and still beat him.

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Scared to fight in the UFC? He's fighting the best Heavyweights in the world in Strikeforce.

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Wow need to check this out

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Hendo gave Silva some of the best competition that he's faced in the UFC to date. It won Fight of the Night. Even still, who doesn't Silva destroy? [QUOTE="hadoken"] Henderson boring? Really? What more could you possibly want from him? [QUOTE="hadoken"]dana white let this cocky fool go which was a good movedodgerblue13
Firstly, Henderson is not cocky. Secondly, Dana didn't just let him go. Henderson wanted to leave because of how Dana operated. There was a lot to that departure. You really need to understand things before you comment on them. Let me guess: you started watching the UFC two months ago and never saw a non-UFC MMA fight?

Henderson hasn't fought anyone good for a long time, he knocked out Bisping, and purposely threw in extra shots after Bisping was knocked out. He has no memorable fights, except when Silva completely destroyed him. Dan Henderson is cocky you just don't know it. When one interviewer asked him what those extra shots were for he said "to shut him up a little bit". Then in another interview he started stuttering and said "you want to make sure they're out." He knew Bisping was out but he's an a**hole and threw more punches. He may have been good back then but he's trash now. Strike Force has been putting him against bad opponents. The main reason for Dana letting him go was because he wanted to be paid more. It was clearly said in an interview by Dana White that Dan Henderson said he should be getting paid as much as Rampage, and Dana said himself that he doesn't draw in PPV sales. Btw I started watching MMA with the WEC and before Urijah Faber was famous. Let me guess you started watching UFC when Lesnar came in right?

No memorable fight? Hendo vs Wanderlei Silva, both fights, Hendo vs Rampage, hell almost all of his Pride FC fights. The man has been finished only three times in fights (through submissions) otherwise always going the distance. So your hate pretty much stems from the Bisping fight, huh?

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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]Fedors record is decent but in the past few years it hasnt been great, his managment did duck the UFC for sure. Dana White was going to give him one of the best contracts in MMA with an immediate shot at Lesnar and M1 Global turned it down for the lesser deal at Strikeforce, they definatly were protecting Fedors legacy and win streak. Fedor faught great fighters at one time in his career but the last few years he has been no where near the level of Dos Santos and Lesnar sadly, I hope he kick starts his career though and would like to see him fight in the future.m25105
What are you talking about? Back in 2008 people were saying the same, how Fedor was afraid to fight Tim Sylvia and Arlovski. Arlovski had won five straight fights in a row, before he fought against Fedor. And he's still fighting top guys. The UFC contract would basically make them own Fedor, something Fedor is not keen on. You put Fedor against Lesnar and Dos Santos and I'll always root for Fedor, the only real threat I see to Fedor is Cain Velasquez.

You mean that Sylvia fight where Sylvia would walk around at 300 pounds and out of shape, the same Sylvia who before fighting Fedor lost his belt to Nog in the UFC then left? Yeah Sylvia was amazing. As for Andre, yeah I give him that fight, Andre was ok at the time, not th ebest imo but ok, after that Fedor has done nothing at all. He beat Brett Rogers who is terrible, got subbed by Werdum who was KTFO by Dos Santos, and beat up by Big Foot, Fedor was good, and faught the best but he doesnt now, his manager even ducked Reem for a while and kept making excuses up for the fight not to mention they would take a fight with Couture either. And how would him joining the UFC make him owned by the UFC? Thats just more Fedor bull by his managment M1 Global who hang on Fedors balls and wont let him do anything without them getting a cut of his money, Fedor has been getting groomed by M1 Global for years and they protect him from dangerous fights, they did it with Couture, Reem and the UFC competition. I really dunno how you can say say the only htreat to Fedor is Cain when Werdum who beat Fedor couldnt even last a round in the cage with Dos Santos, even Reem couldnt finish Werdum like Dos Santos did. Bottom line, Fedor is great, his managment isnt, take of the Pride nostalgia glasses.
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#30 V4LENT1NE
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[QUOTE="immortality20"]

Fedor's done, the legend is broken. He might win this fight but he's still a coward who didn't want to fight the best in the UFC. Hell Silva can jump up TWO weight classes and still beat him.

heytheredarlin

Scared to fight in the UFC? He's fighting the best Heavyweights in the world in Strikeforce.

Yeah he is fighting the best, boy big foot sure is scary and has some notable wins.....oh wait no he doesnt, ok then lets talk about Werdum he is great right!!.....oh no wait he got KTFO by Dos Santos in under 5 minutes in the UFC, get real.
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[QUOTE="m25105"][QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]Fedors record is decent but in the past few years it hasnt been great, his managment did duck the UFC for sure. Dana White was going to give him one of the best contracts in MMA with an immediate shot at Lesnar and M1 Global turned it down for the lesser deal at Strikeforce, they definatly were protecting Fedors legacy and win streak. Fedor faught great fighters at one time in his career but the last few years he has been no where near the level of Dos Santos and Lesnar sadly, I hope he kick starts his career though and would like to see him fight in the future.V4LENT1NE
What are you talking about? Back in 2008 people were saying the same, how Fedor was afraid to fight Tim Sylvia and Arlovski. Arlovski had won five straight fights in a row, before he fought against Fedor. And he's still fighting top guys. The UFC contract would basically make them own Fedor, something Fedor is not keen on. You put Fedor against Lesnar and Dos Santos and I'll always root for Fedor, the only real threat I see to Fedor is Cain Velasquez.

You mean that Sylvia fight where Sylvia would walk around at 300 pounds and out of shape, the same Sylvia who before fighting Fedor lost his belt to Nog in the UFC then left? Yeah Sylvia was amazing. As for Andre, yeah I give him that fight, Andre was ok at the time, not th ebest imo but ok, after that Fedor has done nothing at all. He beat Brett Rogers who is terrible, got subbed by Werdum who was KTFO by Dos Santos, and beat up by Big Foot, Fedor was good, and faught the best but he doesnt now, his manager even ducked Reem for a while and kept making excuses up for the fight not to mention they would take a fight with Couture either. And how would him joining the UFC make him owned by the UFC? Thats just more Fedor bull by his managment M1 Global who hang on Fedors balls and wont let him do anything without them getting a cut of his money, Fedor has been getting groomed by M1 Global for years and they protect him from dangerous fights, they did it with Couture, Reem and the UFC competition. I really dunno how you can say say the only htreat to Fedor is Cain when Werdum who beat Fedor couldnt even last a round in the cage with Dos Santos, even Reem couldnt finish Werdum like Dos Santos did. Bottom line, Fedor is great, his managment isnt, take of the Pride nostalgia glasses.

Tim Sylvia was never the model athelete people somehow have in their minds, that fighters should be. But the Tim Sylvia vs Ray Mercer fight that people complained about his shape, happened a 11 months after he fought Fedor. You can get out of shape in less than a week by just eating junk food.

Andrei Arlovoski was ranked number two at the time Fedor fought him, prior to that people were saying how Fedor was ducking Arlovski, look what happened.

And MMA MATH FAILS!

With your logic Chuck Lidell sucks too, cause he got owned by Rampage as does Randy Couture against Lyoto Machida as well as Chris Leben against Brian Stann. Hell even Anderson Silva sucks cause he lost to a heel hook back in Pride. But that doesn't count? A fighter gets caught sometimes, it happens, Werdum got caught by Junior Dos Santos who happens to be a knockout artist and now Werdum suddenly sucks? The man made Alistair Overeem look bad in the times when they enganged standing up (which wasn't a lot, due to Werdum trying to troll Overeem down on the ground) and is probably one of the best jiu-jutsu practioners in the world. Fighters evolve, the Werdum that fought against Dos Santos is not the same Werdum we have now.

Fedor made a mistake, it happens for any fighter, he thought he smelled blood and went in for the kill and got trapped with no sweat to help him get out.

You seem to respect the UFC more than fighters and again, the UFC fighters have had nothing, but respectful comments towards Fedor always saying stuff like "Fedor is a true champion", "He's the best" etc.

Fedor has already made it clear why he didn't sign with the UFC. There is not much to it.

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How is Werdum not the same as he is now? You mean that he is to chicken **** to even stand with people now like he did with Reem? Werdum was on a 2 fight win streak over big names when he faced Dos Santos, and he got destroyed. I am not saying Fedor is bad, I am saying in his recent years he has been sheltered by M1 Global and Pride nostalgia nut huggers plain and simple, he was the best, maybe even the best ever, but he isnt now and M1 Global and milking him dry. The reason they didnt get the deal with UFC is because M1 wanted to Co Promote to get more money off Fedors name because they have no other decent fighters, thats it plain and simple, they couldnt co promote and they new he would be going up against the likes of Lesnar, Dos Santos and Cain, they were ******* their pants and even when Fedor got offered a stupid amount of money and an immediate title shot his managment made Dana jump through hoops, they did not want him in the UFC. Even Dana White said he flew to random countrys and gave him probably the best deal he couldnt get anywhere else and his managment still would not take it, thats greedy M1 Global for you, they want him safe and they want to co promote, thats why Fedor isnt the best right now like he was in Pride. I am no UFC nuthugger, but I love my MMA from all companys whether it be Dream, Strikeforce, Affliction(RIP), Pride(RIP) or whatever so dont start pulliung that one either. I just like to watch the best fight the best and right now Fedor isnt fighting the best and hasnt done for some time, thats all I have to say on it.
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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]How is Werdum not the same as he is now? You mean that he is to chicken **** to even stand with people now like he did with Reem? Werdum was on a 2 fight win streak over big names when he faced Dos Santos, and he got destroyed. I am not saying Fedor is bad, I am saying in his recent years he has been sheltered by M1 Global and Pride nostalgia nut huggers plain and simple, he was the best, maybe even the best ever, but he isnt now and M1 Global and milking him dry. The reason they didnt get the deal with UFC is because M1 wanted to Co Promote to get more money off Fedors name because they have no other decent fighters, thats it plain and simple, they couldnt co promote and they new he would be going up against the likes of Lesnar, Dos Santos and Cain, they were ******* their pants and even when Fedor got offered a stupid amount of money and an immediate title shot his managment made Dana jump through hoops, they did not want him in the UFC. Even Dana White said he flew to random countrys and gave him probably the best deal he couldnt get anywhere else and his managment still would not take it, thats greedy M1 Global for you, they want him safe and they want to co promote, thats why Fedor isnt the best right now like he was in Pride. I am no UFC nuthugger, but I love my MMA from all companys whether it be Dream, Strikeforce, Affliction(RIP), Pride(RIP) or whatever so dont start pulliung that one either. I just like to watch the best fight the best and right now Fedor isnt fighting the best and hasnt done for some time, thats all I have to say on it.

So it all boils down you taking Dana Whites side on why Fedor didn't sign with the UFC and me taking Fedor's side. I think I'll go Fedor on this one.
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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]How is Werdum not the same as he is now? You mean that he is to chicken **** to even stand with people now like he did with Reem? Werdum was on a 2 fight win streak over big names when he faced Dos Santos, and he got destroyed. I am not saying Fedor is bad, I am saying in his recent years he has been sheltered by M1 Global and Pride nostalgia nut huggers plain and simple, he was the best, maybe even the best ever, but he isnt now and M1 Global and milking him dry. The reason they didnt get the deal with UFC is because M1 wanted to Co Promote to get more money off Fedors name because they have no other decent fighters, thats it plain and simple, they couldnt co promote and they new he would be going up against the likes of Lesnar, Dos Santos and Cain, they were ******* their pants and even when Fedor got offered a stupid amount of money and an immediate title shot his managment made Dana jump through hoops, they did not want him in the UFC. Even Dana White said he flew to random countrys and gave him probably the best deal he couldnt get anywhere else and his managment still would not take it, thats greedy M1 Global for you, they want him safe and they want to co promote, thats why Fedor isnt the best right now like he was in Pride. I am no UFC nuthugger, but I love my MMA from all companys whether it be Dream, Strikeforce, Affliction(RIP), Pride(RIP) or whatever so dont start pulliung that one either. I just like to watch the best fight the best and right now Fedor isnt fighting the best and hasnt done for some time, thats all I have to say on it.m25105
So it all boils down you taking Dana Whites side on why Fedor didn't sign with the UFC and me taking Fedor's side. I think I'll go Fedor on this one.

And what is M1 Globals excuse? Sorry I meant Fedor. Becasue from what I read is was all that M1 wanted to Co Promote and get more money.

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[QUOTE="m25105"][QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]How is Werdum not the same as he is now? You mean that he is to chicken **** to even stand with people now like he did with Reem? Werdum was on a 2 fight win streak over big names when he faced Dos Santos, and he got destroyed. I am not saying Fedor is bad, I am saying in his recent years he has been sheltered by M1 Global and Pride nostalgia nut huggers plain and simple, he was the best, maybe even the best ever, but he isnt now and M1 Global and milking him dry. The reason they didnt get the deal with UFC is because M1 wanted to Co Promote to get more money off Fedors name because they have no other decent fighters, thats it plain and simple, they couldnt co promote and they new he would be going up against the likes of Lesnar, Dos Santos and Cain, they were ******* their pants and even when Fedor got offered a stupid amount of money and an immediate title shot his managment made Dana jump through hoops, they did not want him in the UFC. Even Dana White said he flew to random countrys and gave him probably the best deal he couldnt get anywhere else and his managment still would not take it, thats greedy M1 Global for you, they want him safe and they want to co promote, thats why Fedor isnt the best right now like he was in Pride. I am no UFC nuthugger, but I love my MMA from all companys whether it be Dream, Strikeforce, Affliction(RIP), Pride(RIP) or whatever so dont start pulliung that one either. I just like to watch the best fight the best and right now Fedor isnt fighting the best and hasnt done for some time, thats all I have to say on it.V4LENT1NE

So it all boils down you taking Dana Whites side on why Fedor didn't sign with the UFC and me taking Fedor's side. I think I'll go Fedor on this one.

And what is M1 Globals excuse? Sorry I meant Fedor. Becasue from what I read is was all that M1 wanted to Co Promote and get more money.

It's already been explained in this very thread. Look for it.
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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]

[QUOTE="m25105"] So it all boils down you taking Dana Whites side on why Fedor didn't sign with the UFC and me taking Fedor's side. I think I'll go Fedor on this one.m25105

And what is M1 Globals excuse? Sorry I meant Fedor. Becasue from what I read is was all that M1 wanted to Co Promote and get more money.

It's already been explained in this very thread. Look for it.

I saw some crap about UFC owning Fedor thats about it, seems like a bad excuse, any Org he goes with will sorta own a part of him, get over it with the bad excuses. M1 wanted more money to milk Fedor and keep him winning, thats the only reason from Dana Whites mouth or not, there is no other reason for him not to go with the UFC time, he gets an immediate title shot to the best belt in the business against the best competition, gets the best contarct in the UFC and he still turned it down, totally stupid. And thats all I have to add by the way, if the nly thing you can come up with is that excuse and saying I suck Danas bit then there is nothing more to discuss. I love Fedor but I am sick of trying to stick up for him after he fought in Affliction, M1 Global are just ******* greedy end of.

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[QUOTE="m25105"][QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"] And what is M1 Globals excuse? Sorry I meant Fedor. Becasue from what I read is was all that M1 wanted to Co Promote and get more money.

V4LENT1NE

It's already been explained in this very thread. Look for it.

I saw some crap about UFC owning Fedor thats about it, seems like a bad excuse, any Org he goes with will sorta own a part of him, get over it with the bad excuses. M1 wanted more money to milk Fedor and keep him winning, thats the only reason from Dana Whites mouth or not, there is no other reason for him not to go with the UFC time, he gets an immediate title shot to the best belt in the business against the best competition, gets the best contarct in the UFC and he still turned it down, totally stupid. And thats all I have to add by the way, if the nly thing you can come up with is that excuse and saying I suck Danas bit then there is nothing more to discuss. I love Fedor but I am sick of trying to stick up for him after he fought in Affliction, M1 Global are just ******* greedy end of.

Then you need to look harder, first page FEDOR'S OWN WORDS!
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[QUOTE="heytheredarlin"]

[QUOTE="immortality20"]

Fedor's done, the legend is broken. He might win this fight but he's still a coward who didn't want to fight the best in the UFC. Hell Silva can jump up TWO weight classes and still beat him.

V4LENT1NE

Scared to fight in the UFC? He's fighting the best Heavyweights in the world in Strikeforce.

Yeah he is fighting the best, boy big foot sure is scary and has some notable wins.....oh wait no he doesnt, ok then lets talk about Werdum he is great right!!.....oh no wait he got KTFO by Dos Santos in under 5 minutes in the UFC, get real.

You clearly have no clue what you're talking about. Strikeforce's Heavyweight division is pretty stacked. Bigfoot, Kharitonov, Overeem, and Werdum are all legit. I'd take any of those guys over Lesnar, Carwin, and Mir anyday.

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#39 m25105
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Since someone has trouble finding Fedor's own words on the very first page, here is a video instead of him explaining why he didn't sign in the contract.

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Should be good. I'm saying Henderson by knockout. Be nice if Fedor came out in usual form, but I think he will get upset.
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My 8th grade PE teacher was Dan Henderson's father, he talked about him all the time and even had posters up. im not so sure of the validity of his statement cause he always seemed kind of sketch, but my teacher had the same facial structure so i guess it could be true

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My 8th grade PE teacher was Dan Henderson's father, he talked about him all the time and even had posters up. im not so sure of the validity of his statement cause he always seemed kind of sketch, but my teacher had the same facial structure so i guess it could be true

omus101

What was your PE teacher's name?

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[QUOTE="omus101"]

My 8th grade PE teacher was Dan Henderson's father, he talked about him all the time and even had posters up. im not so sure of the validity of his statement cause he always seemed kind of sketch, but my teacher had the same facial structure so i guess it could be true

BMD004

What was your PE teacher's name?

Honestly i don't remember his first name. This was in Victorville, CA and ive seen when Dan is introduced it sometimes says he fights from Temecula which isn't too far off

Final edit- i did some research and apparently his dad's name is bill, and Dan was an alumni at my old high school, pretty cool i guess, his dad was a pretty strict teacher though

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#44 MgamerBD
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Anderson Silva vs GSP would be the best fight ever. John Jones vs Anderson Silva would also be the fight of the decade.
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Four days left folks. By the way I'd like to ask a question, why are so many people not very enthusiastic about MMA? It's the ultimate form of competition, with people that are highly skilled in martial arts. Whether it's Judo, Sambo, Muay Thai, Wrestling (freestyle and greco-roman), Karate and you name it. I find the fight that's going to happen just as exciting as a champions league final fight.