Photography advice

Hey, I'm looking for a Compact System Camera or a digital SLR.

It has to have a manual focus.

All settings (F-stop, SS, Exposure, White balance etc.) must be manually adjustable.

The optical zoom it comes with has to be capable of macro and distance photograhy.

I don't care how bulky it is.

My budget is 600$.

I have been looking at a Canon rebel T3 or a Canon Powershot G11. Are these good options? Or are there better ones off the top of your head.

Any advice is welcome.

I'd recommend doing artistic nudes

I'd recommend doing artistic nudes

Jackboot343

[QUOTE="Jackboot343"]

I'd recommend doing artistic nudes

Pirate700

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Jackboot343"]

I'd recommend doing artistic nudes

Allicrombie

Hey, I'm looking for a Compact System Camera or a digital SLR.

It has to have a manual focus.

All settings (F-stop, SS, Exposure, White balance etc.) must be manually adjustable.

The optical zoom it comes with has to be capable of macro and distance photograhy.

I don't care how bulky it is.

My budget is 600$.

I have been looking at a Canon rebel T3 or a Canon Powershot G11. Are these good options? Or are there better ones off the top of your head.

Any advice is welcome.

GOGOGOGURT

I haven't had much experience with DSLRs, but I've had the best luck with Canon cameras in general. I'd say go with whatever Canon you can find the best deal on.

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

Hey, I'm looking for a Compact System Camera or a digital SLR.

It has to have a manual focus.

All settings (F-stop, SS, Exposure, White balance etc.) must be manually adjustable.

The optical zoom it comes with has to be capable of macro and distance photograhy.

I don't care how bulky it is.

My budget is 600$.

I have been looking at a Canon rebel T3 or a Canon Powershot G11. Are these good options? Or are there better ones off the top of your head.

Any advice is welcome.

jimkabrhel

I haven't had much experience with DSLRs, but I've had the best luck with Canon cameras in general. I'd say go with whatever Canon you can find the best deal on.

I have a Canon 600D (rebel T3) it's a great camera. Not sure what you mean about the optical zoom it comes with has to be able to do a macro and distance photography. The lenses you use will determine what sort of photography you'll be able to achieve. Standard kit lenses (18-55mm and 55-250mm) are okay for basic landscapes and portraits, but terrible for macro. The very definition of macro is that the size of the object you are taking a photograph of fills the exact same space on the camera's image sensor (i.e 1x magnification, a 1 cm bug will fill 1cm on the sensor) No kit lenses will be able to do this without extension tubes or other modifications. A bona fide canon macro lens will set you back another 600bucks easily (but they are well worth it) Do some more research, especially into DSLR's they work a lot differently compared to smaller point and shoot options, but of course you get much better results.phhstom1

Ok thanks.

So the rebel T3 comes with two lenses? (18-55mm and 55-250mm)

And I dislike point and shoot. I'm well past that stage and I can't get the shot that I really want with a point and shoot.

Ok I guess I didn't understand macro, but I want to be able to take close-ups at high quality, and 18-55mm is perfect for that, just not distance.

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

Hey, I'm looking for a Compact System Camera or a digital SLR.

It has to have a manual focus.

All settings (F-stop, SS, Exposure, White balance etc.) must be manually adjustable.

The optical zoom it comes with has to be capable of macro and distance photograhy.

I don't care how bulky it is.

My budget is 600$.

I have been looking at a Canon rebel T3 or a Canon Powershot G11. Are these good options? Or are there better ones off the top of your head.

Any advice is welcome.

jimkabrhel

I haven't had much experience with DSLRs, but I've had the best luck with Canon cameras in general. I'd say go with whatever Canon you can find the best deal on.

This is what I've heard also.

[QUOTE="Jackboot343"]

I'd recommend doing artistic nudes

Pirate700

But then I'd be competing with other pimps in da 'hood.

What's photography?

You could probably get a Canon 550D (or the Nikon equivalent) with a kit lens for that much. Heck, you might even be able to get a 600D, considering the 650D is coming out very soon. And there's not much difference between the three cameras anyway. 600D adds a swivelly screen, 650D adds touch.

What's photography?

Pffrbt

I'ts like pornography except you can do it in public.

So the rebel T3 comes with two lenses? (18-55mm and 55-250mm)

And I dislike point and shoot. I'm well past that stage and I can't get the shot that I really want with a point and shoot.

Ok I guess I didn't understand macro, but I want to be able to take close-ups at high quality, and 18-55mm is perfect for that, just not distance.

GOGOGOGURT

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]So the rebel T3 comes with two lenses? (18-55mm and 55-250mm)

And I dislike point and shoot. I'm well past that stage and I can't get the shot that I really want with a point and shoot.

Ok I guess I didn't understand macro, but I want to be able to take close-ups at high quality, and 18-55mm is perfect for that, just not distance.

phhstom1

Yes, like wildlife photograhy, being able to get a good shot without getting so close to scare them off. Would a 55-250mm do for that?

So if I bought it off Amazon, do you think a 2 lense kit would be an option? If you don't know, then what store would you reccomend to buy the camera from?

I can see how the Depth of field would be difficult with macro, but it seems pretty cool.

[QUOTE="phhstom1"]I have a Canon 600D (rebel T3) it's a great camera. Not sure what you mean about the optical zoom it comes with has to be able to do a macro and distance photography. The lenses you use will determine what sort of photography you'll be able to achieve. Standard kit lenses (18-55mm and 55-250mm) are okay for basic landscapes and portraits, but terrible for macro. The very definition of macro is that the size of the object you are taking a photograph of fills the exact same space on the camera's image sensor (i.e 1x magnification, a 1 cm bug will fill 1cm on the sensor) No kit lenses will be able to do this without extension tubes or other modifications. A bona fide canon macro lens will set you back another 600bucks easily (but they are well worth it) Do some more research, especially into DSLR's they work a lot differently compared to smaller point and shoot options, but of course you get much better results.GOGOGOGURT

Ok thanks.

So the rebel T3 comes with two lenses? (18-55mm and 55-250mm)

And I dislike point and shoot. I'm well past that stage and I can't get the shot that I really want with a point and shoot.

Ok I guess I didn't understand macro, but I want to be able to take close-ups at high quality, and 18-55mm is perfect for that, just not distance.

This is a true macro photograph

This is probably what you would get from the kit lens after the photo was cropped

If I were to choose, I would take T2i over the T3. Not sure of the price difference between the two though.

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="phhstom1"]I have a Canon 600D (rebel T3) it's a great camera. Not sure what you mean about the optical zoom it comes with has to be able to do a macro and distance photography. The lenses you use will determine what sort of photography you'll be able to achieve. Standard kit lenses (18-55mm and 55-250mm) are okay for basic landscapes and portraits, but terrible for macro. The very definition of macro is that the size of the object you are taking a photograph of fills the exact same space on the camera's image sensor (i.e 1x magnification, a 1 cm bug will fill 1cm on the sensor) No kit lenses will be able to do this without extension tubes or other modifications. A bona fide canon macro lens will set you back another 600bucks easily (but they are well worth it) Do some more research, especially into DSLR's they work a lot differently compared to smaller point and shoot options, but of course you get much better results.quikdash6

Ok thanks.

So the rebel T3 comes with two lenses? (18-55mm and 55-250mm)

And I dislike point and shoot. I'm well past that stage and I can't get the shot that I really want with a point and shoot.

Ok I guess I didn't understand macro, but I want to be able to take close-ups at high quality, and 18-55mm is perfect for that, just not distance.

This is a true macro photograph

This is probably what you would get from the kit lens after the photo was cropped

Ok that makes sense, I don't need macro just close-ups.

[QUOTE="phhstom1"][QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]So the rebel T3 comes with two lenses? (18-55mm and 55-250mm)

And I dislike point and shoot. I'm well past that stage and I can't get the shot that I really want with a point and shoot.

Ok I guess I didn't understand macro, but I want to be able to take close-ups at high quality, and 18-55mm is perfect for that, just not distance.

GOGOGOGURT

Yes, like wildlife photograhy, being able to get a good shot without getting so close to scare them off. Would a 55-250mm do for that?

So if I bought it off Amazon, do you think a 2 lense kit would be an option? If you don't know, then what store would you reccomend to buy the camera from?

I can see how the Depth of field would be difficult with macro, but it seems pretty cool.

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="phhstom1"] Depends on where you buy it from. Some places will just sell you the body with no lenses, others will put in the most basic (18-55) some will do twin lens kits (18-55 and 55-250) and others will do a discount on another lens if you buy it at the same time (or at least that's how we do it here in Australia, i assume it's the same worldwide.) Yeh a lot of people think macro photography is just close up, but pure macro requires that minimum of 1x magnification. If you're just after close up then the 18-55 (or even 55-250mm) will serve you okay. Macro really is difficult to get your head around and it requires a lot of reading and new techniques to account for issues like incredibly shallow depth of field and stuff, but it is fantastic! As far as shooting at distance i'm not quite sure what you mean. Are you talking about doing landscapes or something where the subject is the quite far awya and you need to be able to 'zoom' in on them?quikdash6

Yes, like wildlife photograhy, being able to get a good shot without getting so close to scare them off. Would a 55-250mm do for that?

So if I bought it off Amazon, do you think a 2 lense kit would be an option? If you don't know, then what store would you reccomend to buy the camera from?

I can see how the Depth of field would be difficult with macro, but it seems pretty cool.

Okay that makes sense. I guess it would be nice to have IS for that, but most of the time I find myself using a very fast Shutter Speed for wildlife.

[QUOTE="phhstom1"][QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]So the rebel T3 comes with two lenses? (18-55mm and 55-250mm)

And I dislike point and shoot. I'm well past that stage and I can't get the shot that I really want with a point and shoot.

Ok I guess I didn't understand macro, but I want to be able to take close-ups at high quality, and 18-55mm is perfect for that, just not distance.

GOGOGOGURT

Yes, like wildlife photograhy, being able to get a good shot without getting so close to scare them off. Would a 55-250mm do for that?

So if I bought it off Amazon, do you think a 2 lense kit would be an option? If you don't know, then what store would you reccomend to buy the camera from?

I can see how the Depth of field would be difficult with macro, but it seems pretty cool.

Thanks for the excellent advice! you know your stuff!

I feel more comfortable with a rebel, so that seems the way to go.

Get a Sony RX100 and call it a dayGioVela2010

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]Get a Sony RX100 and call it a dayquikdash6

[QUOTE="quikdash6"][QUOTE="GioVela2010"]Get a Sony RX100 and call it a dayGioVela2010

If you want to take the next step, go with an SLR. But, I warn you it will become an expensive hobby. As mentioned by another post, if you want to shoot real macro with an SLR you need a lens made for it. $$$$ I've found that a well made point an shoot can take a good macro shot. But really, its all about the image sensor.

OP, if you could spend a few more bills, you can get the Rebel T3i and have get a few more features as well as a larger MP range (18 compared to 12.2). The lens that comes with both are the same and it is a wide angle to standard zoom lens.

The Canon Store is also having an instant rebate sale though Amazon has the T3i and the T3 for the same prices. Either place is fine to buy from. If you buy from the Canon store, the T3i and T3 comes with a free refurbished camera bag which would save you some money in the long run as you would not have to buy a camera bag.

If you go with the T3 though, for what you are looking to spend, you can pick up a bundle deal that includes a second telephoto zoom lens.

Canon if you're strapped for cash...Nikon if you want a good camera.LJS9502_basic