Poll: Does time move slower for hummingbirds?

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#1 Bozanimal
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If a creature is able to move significantly faster than those around it, is its relative time moving more slowly than its surroundings?

For example, a hummingbird moves quicker than most other creatures, has a faster heart-rate, and better reaction time. Does this mean time moves more slowly for a hummingbird than a human?
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#2 Brainkiller05
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Theoretically, yea.

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I'm confused, speed affects time...but the hummingbird aint exactly flying at the same speed as a fighter jet so i doubt it's noticeable.

The hummingbird aitn 1000x faster than everything else...if you are sitting down and i run past you time isn't moving slower for me.

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#3 194197844077667059316682358889
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No; well, technically, yes for its wingtips but only by a miniscule amount. Time dilation is not even noticeable at terrestrial speeds for objects above the atmoic/subatomic scale.
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#4 quiglythegreat
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All animals have about two billion heart beats in their life. The hummingbird is no exception.
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#5 Bourbons3
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No. They're just quicker.
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#6 queenfan66
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no, thats impossible..
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#7 194197844077667059316682358889
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if you are sitting down and i run past you time isn't moving slower for me.

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Actually, it is; it's just by a totally miniscule and completely negligible amount.
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#8 cornlockes
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No because that would bring the 4th demension into play and that's way to confusing.
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#9 Darthmatt
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If so, it would be so mintue. Consider this too. Standing still on Earth would be the standard rate passage for earth. Since the earth is rotating around the sun and spinning etc. Maybe if you could be in deep space, and come to a compete stop, things could be even different since the earth would be traveling very fast. Lke the humming bird next to an Albetros. But, we have to remeber, even in deep space, we are traveling at a high rate of speed around our own galaxy, and the universe itself. I wonder if it is even possible to reach absolute zero velocity relative to the universe?
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#10 warspiderpig
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nope...

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#11 tehdiabetic
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I think that time is actually moving faster aroung hummingbirds. This gives the apearance that htey are beating their wings 1000x a second. Its kinda like watching a movie on fastfoward.
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#12 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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Everything is relative I guess.
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#13 194197844077667059316682358889
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If so, it would be so mintue. Consider this too. Standing still on Earth would be the standard rate passage for earth. Since the earth is rotating around the sun and spinning etc. Maybe if you could be in deep space, and come to a compete stop, things could be even different since the earth would be traveling very fast. Lke the humming bird next to an Albetros. But, we have to remeber, even in deep space, we are traveling at a high rate of speed around our own galaxy, and the universe itself. I wonder if it is even possible to reach absolute zero velocity relative to the universe?Darthmatt
There is no absolute reference frame for rest, there are billions of things on the universe that we are experiencing time dilation with regards to. The only thing that introduces asymmetry is which objects are undergoing acceleration and/or are experiencing a significant gravitational field.
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#14 rey-mistyrio
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no you should know taht time is time no diffrence between different creatures
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#15 194197844077667059316682358889
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no you should know taht time is time no diffrence between different creaturesrey-mistyrio
Of course there is, if one has undergone acceleration and is moving at a relative velocity
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i mean if you drive at a speed of 100 km does time for you movefaster than a person driving at 130km?

the answer is absoulutley NO!

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#18 194197844077667059316682358889
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i mean if you drive at a speed of 100 km does time for you movefaster than a person driving at 130km?

the answer is absoulutley NO!

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You are absolutely wrong; however, it's so tiny, atomic clocks would be needed to detect it.
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#19 Brainkiller05
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There was a segment in some science channel program that has some relevence. It involved a device that repeatedly displayed a random number, but it did so too fast for people to read the number. But when they had people look at the display as they were bungie jumping (or something comparable), these people could make out the random number. I guess it's like people saying how time slows down for them right before or during a car accident. Adrenaline and the stress of the situiation makes you perceive things more quickly. luccaface

Wow took me a second to figure out.

Hmm does this mean I'd have better reactions in counter-stirke if i was sitting ontop of a fast moving train???

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#20 rey-mistyrio
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how am i wrong are you saying that the guy driving at the speed of 100 time for him goes faster than the guy at 130 well thats just wrong cause time goes by at the same speed its just the guy is moving slower not time moving faster like if both were wearing watches and you ask both of them at the same time what time is it both will give you the same answer or can you prove me wrong
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#21 194197844077667059316682358889
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There was a segment in some science channel program that has some relevence. It involved a device that repeatedly displayed a random number, but it did so too fast for people to read the number. But when they had people look at the display as they were bungie jumping (or something comparable), these people could make out the random number. I guess it's like people saying how time slows down for them right before or during a car accident. Adrenaline and the stress of the situiation makes you perceive things more quickly. luccaface
Yeah, but that's a psychological/perceptual effect, not a physics-based one.
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#22 194197844077667059316682358889
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how am i wrong are you saying that the guy driving at the speed of 100 time for him goes faster than the guy at 130 well thats just wrong cause time goes by at the same speed its just the guy is moving slower not time moving faster like if both were wearing watches and you ask both of them at the same time what time is it both will give you the same answer or can you prove me wrong rey-mistyrio
No problem. As I said, the effect is miniscule at the scales you are mentioning and a wristwatch has nowhere near the precision necessary to detect the tiny difference at such a low differential speed. Nonetheless, the effect is real and has been observed. Argue with evidence and with Einstein all you like; I suspect that they will come out on top, though.
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#23 rey-mistyrio
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There was a segment in some science channel program that has some relevence. It involved a device that repeatedly displayed a random number, but it did so too fast for people to read the number. But when they had people look at the display as they were bungie jumping (or something comparable), these people could make out the random number. I guess it's like people saying how time slows down for them right before or during a car accident. Adrenaline and the stress of the situiation makes you perceive things more quickly. luccaface

gotta say quit interesting but still im not convinced that its because time speed

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#25 rey-mistyrio
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[QUOTE="rey-mistyrio"]how am i wrong are you saying that the guy driving at the speed of 100 time for him goes faster than the guy at 130 well thats just wrong cause time goes by at the same speed its just the guy is moving slower not time moving faster like if both were wearing watches and you ask both of them at the same time what time is it both will give you the same answer or can you prove me wrong xaos
No problem. As I said, the effect is miniscule at the scales you are mentioning and a wristwatch has nowhere near the precision necessary to detect the tiny difference at such a low differential speed. Nonetheless, the effect is real and has been observed. Argue with evidence and with Einstein all you like; I suspect that they will come out on top, though.

ok im gonna ask my physics teacher and see what he says or i might just research it on the net

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[QUOTE="luccaface"]There was a segment in some science channel program that has some relevence. It involved a device that repeatedly displayed a random number, but it did so too fast for people to read the number. But when they had people look at the display as they were bungie jumping (or something comparable), these people could make out the random number. I guess it's like people saying how time slows down for them right before or during a car accident. Adrenaline and the stress of the situiation makes you perceive things more quickly. Brainkiller05

Wow took me a second to figure out.

Hmm does this mean I'd have better reactions in counter-stirke if i was sitting ontop of a fast moving train???

NO, but you'd have better reactions on counterstrike if you were a hummingbird.

Birds (nearly) always seem to get out of the way of cars at the last second, but for them, there's plenty of time yo move. Its all in the perception of time.

I know that we can not distinguish the 30 frames per second of static images on-screen and consider them as a moving image. I heard that flies can see at 600 fps. Although I can't explain how they found that out. Perhaps while trying to swat them?

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#28 dr_mindbender12
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I think that time doesn't necessarily move slower for hummingbirds but instead hummingbirds get messages from their brain quicker (like sight, sound etc.). They can probably see a lot more frames a second and react a lot quicker than humans do so thats why it might seem like time moves slower for hummingbirds.
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#29 shufu7-11
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Just because they move faster doesn't mean time moves slower for them.
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#30 194197844077667059316682358889
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Just because they move faster doesn't mean time moves slower for them.shufu7-11
Yes it does
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#31 -Rail_Man-
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Definitely.
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#32 Bozanimal
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Xaos, I thought time was an absolute, and that our relative perception was the only variable. This was also really meant to be philosophical rather than scientific.

For example, the hummingbird experiences normal time, it is our relative time that is slower to he hummingbird. ;)