POLL if Israeli strike Iran, should the US militarily help?

Well, with the every growing drumbeat towards war, here are the latest developments.

Neocons Hoping Israel Will Start a Fire the U.S. Will Be Forced to Put Out

Reuel Marc Gerecht's screed justifying an Israeli bombing attack on Iran coincides with the opening of the new Israel lobby campaign marked by the introduction of House resolution 1553 expressing full support for such an Israeli attack.

What is important to understand about this campaign is that the aim of Gerecht and of the right-wing government of Benjamin Netanyahu is to support an attack by Israel so that the United States can be drawn into direct, full-scale war with Iran.

That has long been the Israeli strategy for Iran, because Israel cannot fight a war with Iran without full U.S. involvement. Israel needs to know that the United States will finish the war that Israel wants to start.

Of course, partisan sites like Alternet never wants to acknowledge how the democrats and the entire mainstream media also helps in perpetuating this idea that Israel should always have the unconditional backing of the US. this isn't just the work of Fox news.

The idea of waging a U.S. war of destruction against Iran is obvious lunacy, which is why U.S. military leaders have strongly resisted it both during the Bush and Obama administrations. But Gerecht makes it clear that Israel believes it can use its control of Congress to pound Obama into submission. Democrats in Congress,he boasts, "are mentally in a different galaxy than they were under President Bush." Even though Israel has increasingly been regarded around the world as a rogue state after its Gaza atrocities and the commando killings of unarmed civilians on board the Mavi Marmara, its grip on the U.S. Congressappears as strong as ever.

Netanyahu: America is Easy to Push Around

Still even with such a damning video of the Israeli PM bragging about manipulating the US, I dont expect support for an Israeli strike to change. The question I ask is should the US get involved or let Israel take full responsibility for its actions and suffer the consequences if any?

Israel is worst than Iran. We should never support them.EMOEVOLUTION

[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]Israel is worst than Iran. We should never support them.l4dak47

Following politics means disregarding your morals?

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]Israel is worst than Iran. We should never support them.SpinoRaptor24

Following politics means disregarding your morals?

Yes, with the whole gaza blockade and the flotilla hijacking, Israel is out of control. They need to calm down and relize that the Islamic peoples have just as many rights as them. MrRomanov61

Yes that the US should get involved? Thats what the Israeli's are hoping for since Iran can retaliate and inflict considerable damage to Israel

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]Israel is worst than Iran. We should never support them.SpinoRaptor24

Following politics means disregarding your morals?

Of course not, if the US feels that it needs to invade Iran then it should they shouldn't do it simply because another country is being imperialistic and idiotic.markop2003

Havent you heard Israel 51st state

Israeli policies are always portrayed as being one and the same with the US. Israels war is considered America's war

America needs to stop going into wars.

[QUOTE="MrRomanov61"]Yes, with the whole gaza blockade and the flotilla hijacking, Israel is out of control. They need to calm down and relize that the Islamic peoples have just as many rights as them. majwill24

Yes that the US should get involved? Thats what the Israeli's are hoping for since Iran can retaliate and inflict considerable damage to Israel

[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]Israel is worst than Iran. We should never support them.l4dak47

[QUOTE="markop2003"]Of course not, if the US feels that it needs to invade Iran then it should they shouldn't do it simply because another country is being imperialistic and idiotic.majwill24

Havent you heard Israel 51st state

Israeli policies are always portrayed as being one and the same with the US. Israels war is considered America's war

That is untrue, Israel has partaken in quite a few wars the US did not support or join in.. The Lebanon Civil War was proof of this when Israel invaded, Reagan publically scolded them for a multitude of reasons.. Unfortunately the US kept funding them after that.. Israel would not be any where near as aggressive if it didn't have the United States backing them up unquestioningly both political and with a huge paycheck every year in support.

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]Israel is worst than Iran. We should never support them.EMOEVOLUTION

[QUOTE="MrRomanov61"]Yes, with the whole gaza blockade and the flotilla hijacking, Israel is out of control. They need to calm down and relize that the Islamic peoples have just as many rights as them. majwill24

Yes that the US should get involved? Thats what the Israeli's are hoping for since Iran can retaliate and inflict considerable damage to Israel

Israel doesn't want to do it not because of Iran.. But because it will band the entire region together again against Israel.. Israel has a military hegemon.. No country in the region even comes close to the military Israel has both in technology and in power.

[QUOTE="markop2003"]Of course not, if the US feels that it needs to invade Iran then it should they shouldn't do it simply because another country is being imperialistic and idiotic.majwill24

Havent you heard Israel 51st state

Israeli policies are always portrayed as being one and the same with the US. Israels war is considered America's war

If Iran continues down the path to nuclear weapons, the USA will have no choice but to support a military option...Stevo_the_gamer

If you mean support in terms of "Argue how justified and awesome Israel is in the court of public opinion" then yes. If you mean support in terms of "maybe contribute some airstrikes or let Israel use the bases we've constructed in Iraq" then yes. If you mean support in terms of "declaring war on Iran and/or lending significant amounts of military/manpower aide..." then my answer would be, "Not without ending one of our commitments elsewhere and/or a lot more convincing evidence that Iran is an imminent threat than has been presented publicly to date."nocoolnamejim

Well support like performing air strikes or any other crucial aid could always be twisted back and used to say that the US is now in danger. Iran isnt Iraq and they have considerable backing from the russians and chinese and wouldnt want their investments going up into smokes.

The fear of mission creep and it possibly growing out of control is enough of a concern for me to say that the US shouldnt get involved at all.

Israel is simply trying to defend the land that was given them after world war 2. They are doing everything they can to defend themselves. The United States supports Israel because they helped get them that land.

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] They're both bad. We're not talking about morality here. Only politics. Learn the difference.markop2003

Following politics means disregarding your morals?

It's physical impossible. Mentaly impossible. Though one may try to be impersonal, that is the most they can do.

[QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

Following politics means disregarding your morals?

EMOEVOLUTION

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]If Iran continues down the path to nuclear weapons, the USA will have no choice but to support a military option...Snipes_2

[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"][QUOTE="markop2003"] Personal morals shouldn't effect the way you rule a country only the way you personally act. If you rule on personal morals then you're just shoving them down the population's throats.LJS9502_basic

Israel is simply trying to defend the land that was given them after world war 2. They are doing everything they can to defend themselves. The United States supports Israel because they helped get them that land.

Darkainious

Uh huh defending, like settling on the West Bank.. Territory that was never given to them.. This is of course ignoring the fact that the United Nations had no right what so ever in breaking up Palestine to begin with, and their plan was immensely unfair to the majority Palestinians who lived on the land.

No. We're not their guardian.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]If Iran continues down the path to nuclear weapons, the USA will have no choice but to support a military option...Snipes_2

It's ridiculous that we even blindly support them to that point, they got themselves into it, they can get themselves out.

First off. Israel Would never do that. Second we should Help them IF they did.. Since we are allies..00-Riddick-00

I would be worried about escalation. There is another global power that has incredible energy needs and they would not be happy by a unilateral preemptive strike. If I was china I would call the US bluff, because in the end, I dont foresee the Us willing to start another world war because of the aggressive action of such a small and economically insignificant state.

China's long-time ambassador to Tehran, Hua Liming, admitted that his diplomacy in Iran after China became an oil importer in the early 1990s had been entirely dictated by energy politics

[QUOTE="00-Riddick-00"]First off. Israel Would never do that. Second we should Help them IF they did.. Since we are allies..majwill24

I would be worried about escalation. There is another global power that has incredible energy needs and they would not be happy by a unilateral preemptive strike. If I was china I would call the US bluff, because in the end, I dont foresee the Us willing to start another world war because of the aggressive action of such a small and economically insignificant state.

China's long-time ambassador to Tehran, Hua Liming, admitted that his diplomacy in Iran after China became an oil importer in the early 1990s had been entirely dictated by energy politics

There is no way that any power would help Iran, especially China due to its reliance on the west.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"] telling a person to be impersonal, is like telling an elephant to fly.EMOEVOLUTION

When I read comments saying that Israel hasa "grip" on the US Congress, I can't take them too seriously. I don't study this stuff much, so I'm kinda talking out my ass, but usually when I see stuff like that, it's associated with neo-Nazis.

Nope, The US already has enough problems, it shouldn't get involved. And last thing the last thing the US needs is more ****ed off Muslims joining extremist groups. I do believe Sun Tzu has said a many things about unnecessary wars.

Yes.

Yes.

Mr_Manikin52

No.

Israel should be condemned as it would be an unprovoked war started by Israel.

The U.S should help Iran. Not like that would happen though. Israel is fanatical, racist regime that's been wrecking havoc in the Middle East for too long. I can only hope one day they change or get put down like the monsters they are.GettingTired