Poll: Isolationism soars among Americans

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#51 HoolaHoopMan
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I don't agree with total isolationism, however I would like to see a revamping of our interests abroad. I think we should support our best interests, but not at the cost of supporting dictatorships or exploiting poorer nations for just a little national gain.
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#52 _BlueDuck_
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I'm against total isolationism. Getting involved in other countries affairs can easily backfire, but so too can not getting involved at all. We need a better policy than simply "what is in our current best interest for the time being".

Bad example of U.S. intervention: Guatemala

Would-have-been-good example of U.S. intervention: Rwanda.

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#53 KungfuKitten
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Well i wouldn't mind them standing back a bit. Mainly because i am really not impressed with how they deal with their own people. But i don't want an entire discussion devoted to that. EMOEVOLUTION, You think the USA are close to being too isolationist? I'm just asking, nothing intended.
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#54 FunnyMouth
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I think the US needs to chill out on the name calling. Seriously, people are getting whipped up over names. Socialism, communism, isolationism, etc. Seriously, is it all that neccesary right now? I am sure we have better things to worry about than what we are going to call ourselves or the next bill we are going to pass? Why can't they just... do gov't work, like they spent thousands of dollars for to learn?
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#55 EMOEVOLUTION
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Well i wouldn't mind them standing back a bit. Mainly because i am really not impressed with how they deal with their own people. But i don't want an entire discussion devoted to that. EMOEVOLUTION, You think the USA are close to being too isolationist? I'm just asking, nothing intended.KungfuKitten
No, I don't think that. I think we could go that way though because of poor decision making by the Government. The USA can do a lot of good around the World. I'm not talking about military action or telling people how to do things.
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#56 LJS9502_basic  Online
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I get the feeling the world isn't grateful for the billions of dollars the US spends every year trying to help. The solution: spend those billions of dollars on the US.FragStains
I agree good sir. Let's not force money on other nations.
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#57 FunnyMouth
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As far as the isolationism topic goes, I don't think it's a smart move. NATO needs to work on a healthier relationship. Internationally, isolationism wouldn't be a smart move, beings as we are sort of a major power. The only ones that need to mind their own business is the government in the peoples lives.
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#58 Unassigned
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No, It's not. Isolationism is a very dangerous thing.

EMOEVOLUTION

Example or proof?

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#59 FunnyMouth
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The U.S. could maybe stop feeding the world. We need the money, and there is a saying I'd like some politicians to hear. "Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, he'll never be hungry."
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#60 _BlueDuck_
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[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]

No, It's not. Isolationism is a very dangerous thing.

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Example or proof?

World War II, Genocides in Darfur and Rwanda.

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#61 MgamerBD
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I say we should keep in isolationism to a certain extent. Like not interfer with any small wars in Europe. We should still keep up with trade but most of the time mind our buisness.
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#62 Bourbons3
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[QUOTE="FragStains"]I get the feeling the world isn't grateful for the billions of dollars the US spends every year trying to help. The solution: spend those billions of dollars on the US.LJS9502_basic
I agree good sir. Let's not force money on other nations.

I don't mind if you force money on to me :P
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#64 danwallacefan
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I think this is a very positive trend. I hope it continues. We can't afford more of these "nation-building" wars.

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#65 one_plum
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The US should help themselves before others in the meantime considering they still have a colossal debt to pay.

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#66 -Sun_Tzu-
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]No it isn't. There is a lot of good that the U.S. can and should do in the world. mrbojangles25

yea but the recent trend among other nations is Americaphobia...even if we have the best intentions, they wont want us getting involved.

Its sad, and I agree we can do a lot of good (we do, actually...stationing hospital ships off of tidal-wave struck countries, sharing our constant wheat surplus, etc) but we cant cram our help down their throats.

Well, I don't think other people hate America to the degree in which they would refuse our aid if they were in dire need of it. I'm a little wary to use the example of Iraq, but when we initially invaded, there was a very brief period where we were in fact - to use what are now Dick Cheney's infamous words - "greeted as liberators" by the Iraqi people (of course that did quickly change do to incredible mismanagement of the war).

I think it is reasonable to assume that if the U.S. were to reach out its hand to an oppressed people in need, that its hand would be grasped, not shoved away because of hatred for the U.S. (assuming that the effort is genuine and properly managed). And if they don't accept our aid, there are plenty of other people that could use the aid, both domestically and abroad.

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#67 Tezcatlipoca666
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We're by far the most generous nation in the world already, I say we start focusing on healing ourselves for once.

JustusCF

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Ok whatever you say man...

But yes, the U.S. should start fixing internal problems before trying to intervene in foreign affairs.

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#68 Unassigned
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[QUOTE="Unassigned"]

[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]

No, It's not. Isolationism is a very dangerous thing.

_BlueDuck_

Example or proof?

World War II, Genocides in Darfur and Rwanda.

Those are not examples of "Isolationism" but thanks for sharing.
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#69 Immortalica
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I think it's better if the US is isolationist. But of course, if foreign intervention is necessary, and benefits us, then that's fine. Otherwise, stick to minding our own business.
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#70 _BlueDuck_
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[QUOTE="_BlueDuck_"]

[QUOTE="Unassigned"] Example or proof?

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World War II, Genocides in Darfur and Rwanda.

Those are not examples of "Isolationism" but thanks for sharing.

The latterare examples of non-interventionalism, which is a key component to isolationism.

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#71 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Unassigned"][QUOTE="_BlueDuck_"]

World War II, Genocides in Darfur and Rwanda.

_BlueDuck_

Those are not examples of "Isolationism" but thanks for sharing.

The latterare examples of non-interventionalism, which is a key component to isolationism.

The former is a consequence of isolationism.

I agree that this is a very bad trend. Not only is in infeasible--our economy depends on trade in foreign countries--it's also ignorant.