poll should marijuana be legalized in the US?

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#51 deepdreamer256
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Of course it should, and at the very least should be fully legalised for medicinal usage! As most people here have rightly pointed out, banning cannabis may have made it slightly difficult to get your hands on some, but that doesn't stop people from getting their hands on it regardless. Not only that, but if they start recognising this as a medical issue rather than a legal one, we won't have to put up with all of this costly prohibition-era useless drug enforcement BS.
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#52 417alum
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the reason it's illegal is because the government couldn't find a way to tax it...
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No, I don't think so.
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Well, this is a blast from the past.
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#55 Brainkiller05
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the reason it's illegal is because the government couldn't find a way to tax it...417alum
This is the sad truth :( damn government
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#56 rockguy92
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I'm not really decided.
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#57 LikeHaterade
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No. Marijuana not only opens the doors to other more potent drugs, but also effects awareness and depth perception, which would result in an increased number of vehicular deaths(referring to the innocent, sober drivers) due to people driving under the influence of marijuana.
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#58 -Sun_Tzu-
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No. Marijuana not only opens the doors to other more potent drugs, but also effects awareness and depth perception, which would result in an increased number of vehicular deaths(referring to the innocent, sober drivers) due to people driving under the influence of marijuwana.LikeHaterade
So we should also ban alcohol then, yes?
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#59 jimmyjammer69
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No. I'd keep it illegal to supply - maybe even increase penalties, but would allow cultivation for personal use.
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[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]No. Marijuana not only opens the doors to other more potent drugs, but also effects awareness and depth perception, which would result in an increased number of vehicular deaths(referring to the innocent, sober drivers) due to people driving under the influence of marijuwana.-Sun_Tzu-
So we should also ban alcohol then, yes?

Of coarse.
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#61 Cherokee_Jack
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No. I'd keep it illegal to supply - maybe even increase penalties, but would allow cultivation for personal use.jimmyjammer69
What possible good would that do?
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#62 -Sun_Tzu-
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]No. Marijuana not only opens the doors to other more potent drugs, but also effects awareness and depth perception, which would result in an increased number of vehicular deaths(referring to the innocent, sober drivers) due to people driving under the influence of marijuwana.LikeHaterade
So we should also ban alcohol then, yes?

Of coarse.

nice, prohibition v2. We all know how well that went...
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#63 LikeHaterade
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] So we should also ban alcohol then, yes?

Of coarse.

nice, prohibition v2. We all know how well that went...

Sorry but although it's fun and all getting drunk, it being legal sure as hell isn't worth all of the innocent lives that has been lost because of it. I don't believe in legalizing marijuana and making it worse.
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#64 jimmyjammer69
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[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]No. I'd keep it illegal to supply - maybe even increase penalties, but would allow cultivation for personal use.Cherokee_Jack
What possible good would that do?

Would get rid of the dealer culture and shut up all those calling for legalisation. I don't think it's right for the government to make money on taxation of a drug which is known to cause psychiatric problems in a percentage of the population, but I think that consumption is very difficult to control, and those who do use it should be kept away from the criminal aspect.
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[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"] Of coarse.

nice, prohibition v2. We all know how well that went...

Sorry but although it's fun and all getting drunk, it being legal sure as hell isn't worth all of the innocent lives that has been lost because of it. I don't believe in legalizing marijuana and making it worse.

America has tried to ban alcohol, and it failed miserably. The "war on drugs" has also failed miserably. And no, not everyone who drinks gets crazy drunk, and the overwhelming majority of the people who drink actually drink responsibly.
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Undecided, favoring no.
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#67 LikeHaterade
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] nice, prohibition v2. We all know how well that went...

Sorry but although it's fun and all getting drunk, it being legal sure as hell isn't worth all of the innocent lives that has been lost because of it. I don't believe in legalizing marijuana and making it worse.

America has tried to ban alcohol, and it failed miserably. The "war on drugs" has also failed miserably. And no, not everyone who drinks gets crazy drunk, and the overwhelming majority of the people who drink actually drink responsibly.

And that makes it right to legalize it? You and I obviously have different outlooks on human life.
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At least decriminalized. I'm sick of seeing 20 billion taxpayer's dollars going down the drain every year in expenses being made for the war on drugs, most of which is due to the interdiction of pot.
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#69 needled24-7
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There is no reason why it shouldn't be legal. FACT.
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#70 needled24-7
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No. Marijuana not only opens the doors to other more potent drugs, but also effects awareness and depth perception, which would result in an increased number of vehicular deaths(referring to the innocent, sober drivers) due to people driving under the influence of marijuana.LikeHaterade
You're right, it does effect awareness and all that stuff. That's why I'm always better at Halo. :D
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#71 Curlyfrii87
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It would cause more problems than it solved, so No!
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#72 StartARiot7
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No you would have to look out for drunk drives and now high drivers, with it being legalized the crash/death rate of driving would go way high. And its pointless to make it legalized.
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[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"] Sorry but although it's fun and all getting drunk, it being legal sure as hell isn't worth all of the innocent lives that has been lost because of it. I don't believe in legalizing marijuana and making it worse.

America has tried to ban alcohol, and it failed miserably. The "war on drugs" has also failed miserably. And no, not everyone who drinks gets crazy drunk, and the overwhelming majority of the people who drink actually drink responsibly.

And that makes it right to legalize it? You and I obviously have different outlooks on human life.

No you are right that doesn't make it right to legalize it. In my opinion, marijuana should be legal, just simply because I think it is stupid and illogical for it to be illegal and yet to have alcohol be perfectly legal. But it probably won't be legal for a while, because there is just no real compelling reason to make it legal. I mean, it doesn't benefit society in any meaningful and productive way, and because of that it would be incredibly difficult to overturn its status as a controlled substance. So even though from an ideological stand point I believe it should be legal, I realize from a practical and rational stand point that it's not going to happen for a while.
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ONLY IF they legalize all drugs.
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#75 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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No, it'll never happen -- even the liberals in Congress wouldn't legalize it. Thank the Lord too.
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#76 Big_player
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No. It just leads people into harder drugs. I watched some of my 'friends' start of with with weed and move into harder junk. They said they wouldent try anything else, but time tells different.

Drugs are for losers or patients that need them.

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Marijuana only leads to harder drugs because teenagers need to go to the black market to get it, put marijuana in stores and those same teenagers and young adults won't have any contact with the people pushing harder drugs. As of now drug prohibition causes more deaths and damage society then the drugs alone.
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ONLY IF they legalize all drugs. Sajedene

That would be pure hell.

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#78 Sajedene
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"]ONLY IF they legalize all drugs. Theokhoth

That would be pure hell.

That is nothing but assumption. If the argument here is that the government legalize weed and control its distribution -- then the same argument can be said for any drug out there. Legalize it and control its distribution... people who do the drugs who have and never were any harm to society or themselves can do so without prosecution and those who ARE a harm to themselves and to society can either be "weeded" out by any screening process the government does or to control how much of the drug they are able to purchase at a time (no more OD)
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#79 Iced_Earth_Rulz
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Yes it should be. Not only does it have its medicinal uses and its use for stuff like paper and rope. It also has alternative fuel potential. It has as much ethonal count as a corn plant if not more. Give me some time to find the link but I was reading about it the other day.
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] No you are right that doesn't make it right to legalize it. In my opinion, marijuana should be legal, just simply because I think it is stupid and illogical for it to be illegal and yet to have alcohol be perfectly legal. But it probably won't be legal for a while, because there is just no real compelling reason to make it legal. I mean, it doesn't benefit society in any meaningful and productive way, and because of that it would be incredibly difficult to overturn its status as a controlled substance. So even though from an ideological stand point I believe it should be legal, I realize from a practical and rational stand point that it's not going to happen for a while.

Doesn't benefit society at all, how about the fact that it's the most medically active substance on earth, or that a simple 10% tax on marijuana could generate over 5 billion dollars, or that it along with hemp is one of the most nutritionally fulfilling foods on the earth, or that it has inspired some of the greatest art and music in history, or that hemp has over 500 industrial uses.
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[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] America has tried to ban alcohol, and it failed miserably. The "war on drugs" has also failed miserably. And no, not everyone who drinks gets crazy drunk, and the overwhelming majority of the people who drink actually drink responsibly.-Sun_Tzu-
And that makes it right to legalize it? You and I obviously have different outlooks on human life.

In my opinion, marijuana should be legal, just simply because I think it is stupid and illogical for it to be illegal and yet to have alcohol be perfectly legal.

Sure I can see why you believe that. There are a few contributing factors I'm sure though. Marijuana is addictive to many which does show from the hundreds of thousands of people a year seeking treatment for marijuana dependency, despite the lack of evidnce showing withdrawal symptoms. I think that it could have an effect on young adults' motivation in college as well. You have high schoolers skipping school nowadays to go smoke pot. I don't believe However, some of the same could indeed be said about alcohol, but I'm just speeking in terms that legalizing it would make the statistics worse. I'm not trying to debate on what's worse, alcohol or marijuana.A lot of cocaine and heroin users started off using marijuana which shows that it can indeed open the doors to other, more addictive drugs as well. But whatever. If there was some way to prevent innocent lives being lost because of the two, I suppose I could care less as to whether or not it was legalized. It's a fact that the statistics would get worse though.

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What is it with the internet and its obsession with legalizing marijuana?
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What is it with the internet and its obsession with legalizing marijuana?jim_shorts
Most people on forums like this are teenagers, or people in their twenties (College students, gamers ect.) -- that's where the majority of liberal-minded individuals are.
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Sajedene"]ONLY IF they legalize all drugs. Sajedene

That would be pure hell.

That is nothing but assumption. If the argument here is that the government legalize weed and control its distribution -- then the same argument can be said for any drug out there. Legalize it and control its distribution... people who do the drugs who have and never were any harm to society or themselves can do so without prosecution and those who ARE a harm to themselves and to society can either be "weeded" out by any screening process the government does or to control how much of the drug they are able to purchase at a time (no more OD)

I don't know about that. Drugs such as heroin would in all probability have a really big negative effect on society. In every case I would disagree with this. But in terms of drugs, the government should decide what's best for the people. It's obvious heroin wouldn't have any positive effects on anybody other than satisfying the addiction. The effects are far more potent than both alcohol or marijuana. Plus, known to make others hallucinate violent images.
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There is no reason why it shouldn't be legal. FACT.needled24-7

1. Its not harmful. Theres not one death directly related. If you want to count any DUI's as a reason, you might as well make driving illegal as a whole, seeing as speeding is illegal and it kills people.

2. Its not addicting. Unless you count being addicted to the pleasure received from it, which would make ALOT of stuff illegal.

3. Everything that is bad with it is because its illegal(such as lacing it with harder drugs)

4. The goverment spends billions fighting against a billion dollar industry they could instead use themselves as taxes.

5. Is weed a gateway drug? It could be. I mean its illegal, crack is illegal, whats the difference? I'd get in just as much trouble, so why not try it and get hooked on crack? I mean if weed were legal, why would I try crack then? Or drug dealers lacing it with meth to get users hooked, which wouldn't happen if it were legal.

6 . It would stop harmless people from getting in an overpopulated jail and freeing killers.

7. It has uselful medical properties.

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marijuana is a gateway drug.. the gateway to partytown! legalize it.
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

That would be pure hell.

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That is nothing but assumption. If the argument here is that the government legalize weed and control its distribution -- then the same argument can be said for any drug out there. Legalize it and control its distribution... people who do the drugs who have and never were any harm to society or themselves can do so without prosecution and those who ARE a harm to themselves and to society can either be "weeded" out by any screening process the government does or to control how much of the drug they are able to purchase at a time (no more OD)

I don't know about that. Drugs such as heroin would in all probability have a really big negative effect on society. In every case I would disagree with this. But in terms of drugs, the government should decide what's best for the people. It's obvious heroin wouldn't have any positive effects on anybody other than satisfying the addiction. The effects are far more potent than both alcohol or marijuana. Plus, known to make others hallucinate violent images.

And yet someone who uses heroin will argue with you to hell about how they can handle it. The same with weed. The same for ANY drug. They have their positives and negatives and certain individuals will find them acceptable or objectionable. So who are you all to say that one drug is to be allowed because YOU are using it (maybe not you but talking to GS users who voted yes) and say NO to another drug because "it is bad".
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#88 Iced_Earth_Rulz
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http://ezinearticles.com/?Cannabis-DNA-Modification-for-Use-to-Produce-Ethanol&id=146965

i forgot to mention you have to alter the DNA but cannabis is easy to manipulate.

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[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="Sajedene"] That is nothing but assumption. If the argument here is that the government legalize weed and control its distribution -- then the same argument can be said for any drug out there. Legalize it and control its distribution... people who do the drugs who have and never were any harm to society or themselves can do so without prosecution and those who ARE a harm to themselves and to society can either be "weeded" out by any screening process the government does or to control how much of the drug they are able to purchase at a time (no more OD)Sajedene
I don't know about that. Drugs such as heroin would in all probability have a really big negative effect on society. In every case I would disagree with this. But in terms of drugs, the government should decide what's best for the people. It's obvious heroin wouldn't have any positive effects on anybody other than satisfying the addiction. The effects are far more potent than both alcohol or marijuana. Plus, known to make others hallucinate violent images.

And yet someone who uses heroin will argue with you to hell about how they can handle it. The same with weed. The same for ANY drug. They have their positives and negatives and certain individuals will find them acceptable or objectionable. So who are you all to say that one drug is to be allowed because YOU are using it (maybe not you but talking to GS users who voted yes) and say NO to another drug because "it is bad".

So you're saying that all drugs are pretty much the same and no drug is worse than others?
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Yes, i think it should i dont smoke it but, theres no denying its healthier than both liquor and smoking i see no problem with it
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#91 LoG-Sacrament
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it sure should. i guess i could understand the governments obsession with holding every citizen's hand and illegalizing drugs like crystal meth since it is a dangerous drug. but marijuana is simply not in the same class. the user will just mellow out a bit. i wouldnt back it as my main tool to fix the economy, but id sure want it legalized.
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Sajedene"]ONLY IF they legalize all drugs. Sajedene

That would be pure hell.

That is nothing but assumption. If the argument here is that the government legalize weed and control its distribution -- then the same argument can be said for any drug out there. Legalize it and control its distribution... people who do the drugs who have and never were any harm to society or themselves can do so without prosecution and those who ARE a harm to themselves and to society can either be "weeded" out by any screening process the government does or to control how much of the drug they are able to purchase at a time (no more OD)

Legalizing all drugs would be a catastrophe. Have you ever seen the effects of crystal meth on a person? Heroin addicts? No, the government wouldn't be able to weed them out as easy as you appear to believe.

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Legalized will NEVER happened in the US. The only thing that might be POSSIBLE is to lower the punishment for having marijuana on you, in other words that its no more a crime. and major RUFLZ at people thinking marijuana is bad/gateway drug

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#94 Montaya
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We should be banning drugs and alcohol, or at least further restricting it, not the other way around, our countries image is bad enough, but with everyone high on weed our country would be a joke.
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1. Its not harmful. Theres not one death directly related. If you want to count any DUI's as a reason, you might as well make driving illegal as a whole, seeing as speeding is illegal and it kills people.

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Cognitive Impairment is not harmful? How about deficits in math skills and verbal expression, or selective impairments in memory retrieval
processes? How about how it disrupts the flow of chemical neurotransmitters, orhow it's been linked to or "can" lead to increased anxiety, panic attacks, depression, and other mental health problems. Nah, man -- getting high is soo cool that who cares what happens to me, I just want to forget everything and be free man, yeah -- be cool.
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We should be banning drugs and alcohol, or at least further restricting it, not the other way around, our countries image is bad enough, but with everyone high on weed our country would be a joke.Montaya
I don't get this argument, just because it's legal doesn't mean everyone would use it. I've never heard anyone say they don't want to try marijuana or any other drug because it's illegal, it's always for another reason such as health. Salvia is legal and we don't see the whole country tripping balls and making US a joke.
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#97 soldier-dark
Member since 2005 • 5909 Posts
No, I only think it should be applied to medical uses, and even then not too much. To be honest, people who smoke marijuana annoy me. Also, I believe it would cause a lot of people to be less productive because it's easier to get.
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#98 basebike2
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ya i think you need to smoke like 8pounds at once to die its a imposible number for a overdose. But if it was ever legallized it would have to be like alcohol. Dont drive when you are smoking it and dont do it in public.
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#99 Big_player
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Cognitive Impairment is not harmful? How about deficits in math skills and verbal expression, or selective impairments in memory retrievalprocesses? How about how it disrupts the flow of chemical neurotransmitters, orhow it's been linked to or "can" lead to increased anxiety, panic attacks, depression, and other mental health problems. Nah, man -- getting high is soo cool that who cares what happens to me, I just want to forget everything and be free man, yeah -- be cool.Stevo_the_gamer

As a regular smoker I can tell you I have no deficit in either math or verbal expression and I maintain a consistant 90+% in school. Memory impairment only occurs while THC is still active in your system, Marijuana is prescribed where available for anxiety, depression, OCD, Tourettes, ADD, ADHD etc so clearly your incorrect on that point. and I'd love to see a relieable study that says it interrupts chemical neurotransmitters.

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#100 Blood-Scribe
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ya i think you need to smoke like 8pounds at once to die its a imposible number for a overdose. But if it was ever legallized it would have to be like alcohol. Dont drive when you are smoking it and dont do it in public. basebike2

Actually, it's way more than that.

You have to smoke about a third of your body weight within fifteen minutes to die of an overdose.