Pope says atheists are responsible for global warming.

When i saw the title I cracked up

John Paul 2 > Benedict 16

http://www.secularism.org ? I'm not going to buy into articles from the religious sites and I'm not going to buy into the sites that already have a nit to pick with the religious folk either.duxup

I remember watching Penn and Teller: Bull! the other day and they were talking about the Vatican and the Pope. I didn't trust his word before but now I just despise him.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/6106462/Atheists-offer-to-care-for-Christians-pets-after-the-Rapture.html

^This made me lol.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/6106462/Atheists-offer-to-care-for-Christians-pets-after-the-Rapture.html

^This made me lol.

Nyxathid_Horror

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/6106462/Atheists-offer-to-care-for-Christians-pets-after-the-Rapture.html

^This made me lol.

Nyxathid_Horror

Here's what probably made people think he's blaming atheists:

Benedict XVI: Is it not true that inconsiderate use of creation begins where God is marginalized or also where is existence is denied? If the human creature's relationship with the Creator weakens, matter is reduced to egoistic possession, man becomes the "final authority," and the objective of existence is reduced to a feverish race to possess the most possible.

Quite honestly, I think he might be but the statement seems to be more about the increased global interest in materialism over spiritualism than anything else.

I think you misunderstand.
I think he means that by wanting more than we are given upon creation we have moved on to the point where our advancement requires us to polute the world, and he means that atheists, not believing in god, and not being happy with what they were given, are the ones who have had the ambition in this world to push humanity forward, and thus they are at fault. I hope i'm not the only one who understood that -_-;
Its a low blow if he really means anything byit, but I think its true to an extent that you cant deny.

Way to point the finger, pope.

People still care about what this clown says?

On one hand I think he's certainly right that excessive materialism and greed are bad.

On the other hand, I have to facepalm at him acting as if those denying the existence of God are the ones possessing such traits.

Hmm that website is pretty biased and taking that statement out of context. What he mean't (I assume) was that lack of faith means that man is the highest authority you will ever have to answer to. So since you expect to just die and disappear you try to attain as much as you possibly can while living... that's what I got out of that quote and it does make sense. It goes long great with the expression *Live your life to the fullest*

Well, if anything, he's good for a laugh.

Hmm that website is pretty biased and taking that statement out of context. What he mean't (I assume) was that lack of faith means that man is the highest authority you will ever have to answer to. So since you expect to just die and disappear you try to attain as much as you possibly can while living... that's what I got out of that quote and it does make sense. It goes long great with the expression *Live your life to the fullest*

Espada12

You can see the full context here. I don't see anything in the full quote that goes against the idea that he's basically (though perhaps inadvertently) saying that people who deny the existence of God are the ones who are materialistic and greedy.

I think you misunderstand.
I think he means that by wanting more than we are given upon creation we have moved on to the point where our advancement requires us to polute the world, and he means that atheists, not believing in god, and not being happy with what they were given, are the ones who have had the ambition in this world to push humanity forward, and thus they are at fault. I hope i'm not the only one who understood that -_-;
Its a low blow if he really means anything byit, but I think its true to an extent that you cant deny.

MuddVader

I can absolutely deny it. A hell of a lot of scientific progress was the result of CHRISTIANS and people of other religions.

And then his Popemobile puts out all those greenhouse gases.

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Hmm that website is pretty biased and taking that statement out of context. What he mean't (I assume) was that lack of faith means that man is the highest authority you will ever have to answer to. So since you expect to just die and disappear you try to attain as much as you possibly can while living... that's what I got out of that quote and it does make sense. It goes long great with the expression *Live your life to the fullest*

GabuEx

You can see the full context here. I don't see anything in the full quote that goes against the idea that he's basically (though perhaps inadvertently) saying that people who deny the existence of God are the ones who are materialistic and greedy.

Furthermore, who is more likely to think that humans are inherently better than the other animals? A religious person who thinks that god created the rest of nature for our good, or an atheist who rejects notions that we are divinely favored?

Umm, it's ATHEISTS who think that mankind is the divine authority? Most of the atheists I know are humbled by the power of nature and our inability to triumph over it.

We have nothing to learn about environmentalism from this hypocrite.

Oh that takes the cake... I wonder if he shares the same opinion on Gore and Obama. Mr. 20x the average energy bill and Mr. Use thousands of gallons to go plant a tree on earth day.

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Pope is dumb if I take it at face value. Don't care either way. By the way OP, it's called climate change now.

Furthermore, who is more likely to think that humans are inherently better than the other animals? A religious person who thinks that god created the rest of nature for our good, or an atheist who rejects notions that we are divinely favored?

Umm, it's ATHEISTS who think that mankind is the divine authority? Most of the atheists I know are humbled by the power of nature and our inability to triumph over it.

MrGeezer

First of all people in general believe they are better than other animals and it's true, we are at the top of the food chain incase you didn't know. Secondly what makes you think religious people don't acknowledge the power of nature?

The Pope is boring.

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Furthermore, who is more likely to think that humans are inherently better than the other animals? A religious person who thinks that god created the rest of nature for our good, or an atheist who rejects notions that we are divinely favored?

Umm, it's ATHEISTS who think that mankind is the divine authority? Most of the atheists I know are humbled by the power of nature and our inability to triumph over it.

Espada12

First of all people in general believe they are better than other animals and it's true, we are at the top of the food chain incase you didn't know. Secondly what makes you think religious people don't acknowledge the power of nature?

1) We AREN'T better than the other animals. "Top of the food chain" doesn't mean ****, particularly when the food chain is constantly changing.

2) I never said that religious people don't acknowledge the power of nature. But if you find someone who thinks that we are better than the rest of the animals, that the rest of the earth was put here divinely for us to use, then you are probably talking to a theist. That whole attitude comes along as part of the package once you accept that we are special, that we have god's grace, and that the other animals do not. Once you accept that we are god's "chosen people", it's a lot more easy to stop giving a damn about anything that is NOT god's chosen people.

I can absolutely deny it. A hell of a lot of scientific progress was the result of CHRISTIANS and people of other religions.

MrGeezer

And then his Popemobile puts out all those greenhouse gases.

avatar_genius

Pope Benedict is a barrel of laughs.

Who knows? Maybe he is right. :P

Global warming is due to an increase in doomed souls burning in hell. thriteenthmonke

No it's due to centuries of burning incense at church.

[QUOTE="thriteenthmonke"]Global warming is due to an increase in doomed souls burning in hell. KG86

No it's due to centuries of burning incense at church.

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The pope is a joke.

The pope is a joke.

CUDCUD

that's right! Catholics dont pollute! only stupid non-believers!!

1) We AREN'T better than the other animals. "Top of the food chain" doesn't mean ****, particularly when the food chain is constantly changing.

2) I never said that religious people don't acknowledge the power of nature. But if you find someone who thinks that we are better than the rest of the animals, that the rest of the earth was put here divinely for us to use, then you are probably talking to a theist. That whole attitude comes along as part of the package once you accept that we are special, that we have god's grace, and that the other animals do not. Once you accept that we are god's "chosen people", it's a lot more easy to stop giving a damn about anything that is NOT god's chosen people.

MrGeezer

1. The food chain is constantly changing with one constant.. us being at the top. If you don't think we are better than other animals then all I can do is respect your opinion, I am of the personal opinion we are.

2. I know many atheist and religious people who believe we are above animals and I agree with them, I agree with your final sentance though, it's easy to see others as unworthy when you believe you are the chosen one.

I think you misunderstand.
I think he means that by wanting more than we are given upon creation we have moved on to the point where our advancement requires us to polute the world, and he means that atheists, not believing in god, and not being happy with what they were given, are the ones who have had the ambition in this world to push humanity forward, and thus they are at fault. I hope i'm not the only one who understood that -_-;
Its a low blow if he really means anything byit, but I think its true to an extent that you cant deny.

MuddVader

John Paul 2 > Benedict 16

avatar_genius

I agree.

HE talks about materialism?? Have you ever seen the Vatican? If they sell all the gold crap that's in the vatican, they could probably end all the hunger in the world. He's a vile hypocrite, I loathe him and his institution.

I do not like the Pope. Not one bit.super_mario_128

Because when a Christian takes a poo it flows down the sewer, blessing us with holy water.