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#1 Dragoon111
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I haven't been to these boards to have an intellegent dicussion in a while so here goes, I no the majority of you know about the conspirecy that 9/11 was actually an inside job and what not, Imagine if the truth was exposed and America really did commit these acts, what is the average person in America supposed to do? I mean, other then the fact to be outraged, what could one really do about it. Imagine if you lived in the states and members of your family where killed in the World Trade Centre, what would/could you possibly do?

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#2 HupHupOranje
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If the conspiracy turned out to be legit, I would shrug my shoulders and be generally un-surprised.
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#3 jerami
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People might have conspiracy theories, but we always will with EVERYTHING... it's in our nature to speculate!
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#4 Erasorn
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Indeed, but we need to stop the communists from doing it again! If the people is lead to believe the lies of the communists, they might gain the upper hand and we might lose america to them!
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#5 andyxm
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it happened its in the past, who cares who caused it...?
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#6 Witchsight
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Im pretty sure either way it was real
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#7 branketra
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I haven't come to these boards to have an intellegent dicussionDragoon111

:? Look, ma, the truth! 

Where's the proof that can be brought to court? :roll: This thread should've ended before it started.

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#9 RPG-er
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*watches the 9-11 south park episode* omg :shock:
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#10 Gog
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There are always that kind of paranoid people around who come up with alternative theories like for the death of JFK,Elvis,Diana, the landing on the moon, 9/11 etc .. most of it is groundless.
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#11 marolia
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I think it was real.
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#12 Vfanek
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I'm a European...so my reaction would probably be O_o and then Oh well :|
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#13 Dragoon111
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In my opinion, i believe that a War world break out in the heart of America, and destroy itself, and other countries would take advantage of the War that america is in
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#14 alex1889
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*watches the 9-11 south park episode* omg :shock:RPG-er
i love that episode
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#15 Scn64
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it happened its in the past, who cares who caused it...? andyxm
There's a big difference between your own government, who is supposed to protect its people, performing an act of terrorism on you and an outside terrorist group doing the same thing. I hope most people WOULD care who caused it.
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#16 HupHupOranje
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[QUOTE="andyxm"]it happened its in the past, who cares who caused it...? Scn64
There's a big difference between your own government, who is supposed to protect its people, performing an act of terrorism on you and an outside terrorist group doing the same thing. I hope most people WOULD care who caused it.

 Not in America! As long as McDonalds is still open and American Idol is on TV - who cares what the government does?

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#17 SaintLeonidas
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I haven't been to these boards to have an intellegent dicussion in a while so here goes, I no the majority of you know about the conspirecy that 9/11 was actually an inside job and what not, Imagine if the truth was exposed and America really did commit these acts, what is the average person in America supposed to do? I mean, other then the fact to be outraged, what could one really do about it. Imagine if you lived in the states and members of your family where killed in the World Trade Centre, what would/could you possibly do?

Dragoon111

theres lot we could do about it, first take old george out back and put him 6 feet under.

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#18 Hallenbeck77  Moderator
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You want proof?

On September 10, the towers were still standing.

On Spetember 11, a tragedy happened that no country deserved to go through.

On the 12, people were trying to find survivors.

Please, for the lover of all that is decent, STOP with the conspiracy theories.  It's getting really, old really quick.

That's all I'm contributing to this.

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#19 Dragoon111
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[QUOTE="Scn64"][QUOTE="andyxm"]it happened its in the past, who cares who caused it...? HupHupOranje

There's a big difference between your own government, who is supposed to protect its people, performing an act of terrorism on you and an outside terrorist group doing the same thing. I hope most people WOULD care who caused it.

 Not in America! As long as McDonalds is still open and American Idol is on TV - who cares what the government does?

LOL, Thats ****
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#20 The-Bulldozer
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Well 9/11 is real just the people who planned aren't the same people that the media is sayin'.
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[QUOTE="HupHupOranje"]

[QUOTE="Scn64"][QUOTE="andyxm"]it happened its in the past, who cares who caused it...? Dragoon111

There's a big difference between your own government, who is supposed to protect its people, performing an act of terrorism on you and an outside terrorist group doing the same thing. I hope most people WOULD care who caused it.

 Not in America! As long as McDonalds is still open and American Idol is on TV - who cares what the government does?

LOL, Thats ****

Agreed; that's the kind of simplistic leftist pablum that makes me embarrassed to call myself a liberal.
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#22 branketra
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Well 9/11 is real just the people who planned aren't the people who the one who the media are sayin'The-Bulldozer
Finally.
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#23 DrummerJon
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Common sense disproves most conspiracy theories.
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#24 KrayzieJ
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perhaps the conspiracy theories would hold some weight if they could come up with a logical motive.
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#25 194197844077667059316682358889
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Common sense disproves most conspiracy theories.DrummerJon
I guess common sense is trumped by cherry-picked evidence and the desire to have super secret privileged knowledge.
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#26 Brainkiller05
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I'm sure it was real...
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#27 daniel52587
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In the constitution is says we can thow out our form of government. We can unite and throw out everybody if needed. Put those responsible to death and what not. I wouldnt be suprised because I already know it was an inside job, and everyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. The people are ultimately in power, not the government.
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#28 MattUD1
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In the constitution is says we can thow out our form of government. We can unite and throw out everybody if needed. Put those responsible to death and what not. I wouldnt be suprised because I already know it was an inside job, and everyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. The people are ultimately in power, not the government.daniel52587
Delusion, like maniacs and terrorism, goes both ways...:|
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#29 194197844077667059316682358889
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In the constitution is says we can thow out our form of government. We can unite and throw out everybody if needed. Put those responsible to death and what not. I wouldnt be suprised because I already know it was an inside job, and everyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. The people are ultimately in power, not the government.daniel52587
Can you point out to me the section of the Constitution that says this? I guess I'm too delusional to know that bit.
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#30 foxhound_fox
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How can people deny that it was not real? Terrorists flew planes into buildings and people died... :?

You can argue all you want about it being a conspiracy or whatever, but in the end, it is all in the past now, we have to learn from our mistakes and prevent them from happening again.
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#31 ArmoredAshes
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I haven't been to these boards to have an intellegent dicussion in a while so here goes, I no the majority of you know about the conspirecy that 9/11 was actually an inside job and what not, Imagine if the truth was exposed and America really did commit these acts, what is the average person in America supposed to do? I mean, other then the fact to be outraged, what could one really do about it. Imagine if you lived in the states and members of your family where killed in the World Trade Centre, what would/could you possibly do?

Dragoon111

 

Well alot of the government would have to be imprisoned or something. Well probably they would jsut get a slap on the wrist because people who are famous/rich get away with alot of stuff an average person wouldnt..

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#32 ArmoredAshes
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How can people deny that it was not real? Terrorists flew planes into buildings and people died... :?

You can argue all you want about it being a conspiracy or whatever, but in the end, it is all in the past now, we have to learn from our mistakes and prevent them from happening again.foxhound_fox

 

No one's saying it didnt happen at all...its more of the arguement that our government played a part in/allowed it to happen. 

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#33 Hoobinator
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Bu bu teh US government can do no wrong :cry:  .... oh wait, yes it can :|

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#34 KrayzieJ
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In the constitution is says we can throw out our form of government. We can unite and throw out everybody if needed. Put those responsible to death and what not. I wouldn't be surprised because I already know it was an inside job, and everyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. The people are ultimately in power, not the government.daniel52587
how can you say it was an inside job? how on earth would killing several thousands of your own people be a wise decision? Don't come at me with that "oh so they could justify a war " I don't buy this bull ****. America can go to war with who ever they want, under false pretenses of spreading freedom/liberty/justice all they want. Bush did not need to kill his own people to do that. Can you please explain why "terrorists" (I hate to use that word) just happily go along with this false accusation that they carried out the attacks? This false flag policy BS is a total sham with absolutely no logical or coherent argument.
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#35 daniel52587
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[QUOTE="daniel52587"]In the constitution is says we can thow out our form of government. We can unite and throw out everybody if needed. Put those responsible to death and what not. I wouldnt be suprised because I already know it was an inside job, and everyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. The people are ultimately in power, not the government.xaos
Can you point out to me the section of the Constitution that says this? I guess I'm too delusional to know that bit.

I dont know how well you read, but I will repeat myself. "In the constitution it says we can throw out our form of government." (END). I suppose you are in fact delusional. In turn, we can put those responsible to death because those responsible killed thousands; so I believe the death penalty would be very legal.
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#36 greeneye59
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If it was legit, I'd be extremely pissed.  But I think our government will clean house.  And that's all that can happen.  The Republicans will be through, for the most part, in the White House.  And terrorism will just explode like a bad rash.  Spreading everywhere.
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[QUOTE="DrummerJon"]Common sense disproves most conspiracy theories.xaos
I guess common sense is trumped by cherry-picked evidence and the desire to have super secret privileged knowledge.

Amen.
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[QUOTE="daniel52587"]In the constitution is says we can throw out our form of government. We can unite and throw out everybody if needed. Put those responsible to death and what not. I wouldn't be surprised because I already know it was an inside job, and everyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. The people are ultimately in power, not the government.KrayzieJ
how can you say it was an inside job? how on earth would killing several thousands of your own people be a wise decision? Don't come at me with that "oh so they could justify a war " I don't buy this bull ****. America can go to war with who ever they want, under false pretenses of spreading freedom/liberty/justice all they want. Bush did not need to kill his own people to do that. Can you please explain why "terrorists" (I hate to use that word) just happily go along with this false accusation that they carried out the attacks? This false flag policy BS is a total sham with absolutely no logical or coherent argument.

Because I will never believe that terrorist that come from a 3rd world country could possibly fly a commercial airliner, which has very complicated mechanics, into a building that is just a dot in the sky. Anyone who believes that needs to be shot just for stupidity. Seriously, you believe that? I dont know why our government would do it, that is beyond me. But I will tell you that no one from a 3rd world country is capable of that.
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#39 Gog
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Indeed. The government making up bogus excuses to attack several countries is not quite the same as killing thousands of your own people to have an excuse.
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#40 Gog
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[QUOTE="KrayzieJ"][QUOTE="daniel52587"]In the constitution is says we can throw out our form of government. We can unite and throw out everybody if needed. Put those responsible to death and what not. I wouldn't be surprised because I already know it was an inside job, and everyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. The people are ultimately in power, not the government.daniel52587
how can you say it was an inside job? how on earth would killing several thousands of your own people be a wise decision? Don't come at me with that "oh so they could justify a war " I don't buy this bull ****. America can go to war with who ever they want, under false pretenses of spreading freedom/liberty/justice all they want. Bush did not need to kill his own people to do that. Can you please explain why "terrorists" (I hate to use that word) just happily go along with this false accusation that they carried out the attacks? This false flag policy BS is a total sham with absolutely no logical or coherent argument.

Because I will never believe that terrorist that come from a 3rd world country could possibly fly a commercial airliner, which has very complicated mechanics, into a building that is just a dot in the sky. Anyone who believes that needs to be shot just for stupidity. Seriously, you believe that? I dont know why our government would do it, that is beyond me. But I will tell you that no one from a 3rd world country is capable of that.

Why not? They are plenty of able pilots in what you call 3rd world countries. They even followed their flight training in the US...

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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="daniel52587"]In the constitution is says we can thow out our form of government. We can unite and throw out everybody if needed. Put those responsible to death and what not. I wouldnt be suprised because I already know it was an inside job, and everyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. The people are ultimately in power, not the government.daniel52587
Can you point out to me the section of the Constitution that says this? I guess I'm too delusional to know that bit.

I dont know how well you read, but I will repeat myself. "In the constitution it says we can throw out our form of government." (END). I suppose you are in fact delusional. In turn, we can put those responsible to death because those responsible killed thousands; so I believe the death penalty would be very legal.

Please make an effort to be more clear in your absurd claims going forward. Thanks! As for the legality of the death penalty, it would depend on the jurisdiction in which the crimes were prosecuted. Most likely, it would be federal, since the attacks were interstate in nature, and there are a number of federal laws providing for the death penalty. However, as structured they could only be levied against individuals who carried out the attacks, not anyone who planned or ordered them. The only non-homicide offenses that can result in the death penalty at the federal level are epsionage, treason and massive scale drug trafficking. Application of the death penalty is based on the law, not what individuals "believe" to be "very legal."
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#42 Elraptor
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I suppose there would be an impeachment and maybe an assault on the White House. >_> Yes, I exaggerate, but the sentiment would likely be there.
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it doesn't matter if it was real, fake or both.  it happened over 5 years ago and a war over it has already started 
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[QUOTE="KrayzieJ"][QUOTE="daniel52587"]In the constitution is says we can throw out our form of government. We can unite and throw out everybody if needed. Put those responsible to death and what not. I wouldn't be surprised because I already know it was an inside job, and everyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. The people are ultimately in power, not the government.daniel52587
how can you say it was an inside job? how on earth would killing several thousands of your own people be a wise decision? Don't come at me with that "oh so they could justify a war " I don't buy this bull ****. America can go to war with who ever they want, under false pretenses of spreading freedom/liberty/justice all they want. Bush did not need to kill his own people to do that. Can you please explain why "terrorists" (I hate to use that word) just happily go along with this false accusation that they carried out the attacks? This false flag policy BS is a total sham with absolutely no logical or coherent argument.

Because I will never believe that terrorist that come from a 3rd world country could possibly fly a commercial airliner, which has very complicated mechanics, into a building that is just a dot in the sky. Anyone who believes that needs to be shot just for stupidity. Seriously, you believe that? I dont know why our government would do it, that is beyond me. But I will tell you that no one from a 3rd world country is capable of that.

WTF? what, the fact that someone comes from a 3rd world country automatically makes them incapable of learning to fly an airplane? This is the stuff I am talking about, people who support the conspiracies only come up with blank suppositions and unsupported accusations. Lets say this was part of some grand evil scheme by the Bush administration, then wow they are really taking over huh? If they could plan an absolutely perfect coordinated attack on there own people then surely they could handle everything else with such precision, right? Looks like they took their masterful scheming ability's and applied that to their warmaking huh?
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#45 mynameisjosh657
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People can come up with conspiracy theories for anything if they put their minds to it. Seriously. 9/11 was not an inside job. Some people just can't wrap their minds around the magnitude of that tragedy and the seriousness of terrorism, so they try to rationalize and say it's all Bush's fault, which I find to be ludicrous even if I don't support everything Bush does. The same people who say 9/11 was an inside job are likely to be some of the same people who think Bush has a secret weather machine and caused Hurricane Katrina because he's racist.
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#46 daniel52587
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[QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="daniel52587"]In the constitution is says we can thow out our form of government. We can unite and throw out everybody if needed. Put those responsible to death and what not. I wouldnt be suprised because I already know it was an inside job, and everyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. The people are ultimately in power, not the government.xaos
Can you point out to me the section of the Constitution that says this? I guess I'm too delusional to know that bit.

I dont know how well you read, but I will repeat myself. "In the constitution it says we can throw out our form of government." (END). I suppose you are in fact delusional. In turn, we can put those responsible to death because those responsible killed thousands; so I believe the death penalty would be very legal.

Please make an effort to be more clear in your absurd claims going forward. Thanks! As for the legality of the death penalty, it would depend on the jurisdiction in which the crimes were prosecuted. Most likely, it would be federal, since the attacks were interstate in nature, and there are a number of federal laws providing for the death penalty. However, as structured they could only be levied against individuals who carried out the attacks, not anyone who planned or ordered them. The only non-homicide offenses that can result in the death penalty at the federal level are epsionage, treason and massive scale drug trafficking. Application of the death penalty is based on the law, not what individuals "believe" to be "very legal."

For one, I would consider it to be Treason. Regardless, if the people rebel against the government, law doesnt really make a difference anymore does it.
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[QUOTE="Scn64"][QUOTE="andyxm"]it happened its in the past, who cares who caused it...? HupHupOranje

There's a big difference between your own government, who is supposed to protect its people, performing an act of terrorism on you and an outside terrorist group doing the same thing. I hope most people WOULD care who caused it.

Not in America! As long as McDonalds is still open and American Idol is on TV - who cares what the government does?

 i'm actually worried because that's so true. how  is our country going to run  in 20 years when the people who are sucked into that junk now are running the country? some of the people here disgust me with how ignorant they are to what goes on outside of the media and retail and crap.

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[QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="KrayzieJ"][QUOTE="daniel52587"]In the constitution is says we can throw out our form of government. We can unite and throw out everybody if needed. Put those responsible to death and what not. I wouldn't be surprised because I already know it was an inside job, and everyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. The people are ultimately in power, not the government.KrayzieJ
how can you say it was an inside job? how on earth would killing several thousands of your own people be a wise decision? Don't come at me with that "oh so they could justify a war " I don't buy this bull ****. America can go to war with who ever they want, under false pretenses of spreading freedom/liberty/justice all they want. Bush did not need to kill his own people to do that. Can you please explain why "terrorists" (I hate to use that word) just happily go along with this false accusation that they carried out the attacks? This false flag policy BS is a total sham with absolutely no logical or coherent argument.

Because I will never believe that terrorist that come from a 3rd world country could possibly fly a commercial airliner, which has very complicated mechanics, into a building that is just a dot in the sky. Anyone who believes that needs to be shot just for stupidity. Seriously, you believe that? I dont know why our government would do it, that is beyond me. But I will tell you that no one from a 3rd world country is capable of that.

WTF? what, the fact that someone comes from a 3rd world country automatically makes them incapable of learning to fly an airplane? This is the stuff I am talking about, people who support the conspiracies only come up with blank suppositions and unsupported accusations. Lets say this was part of some grand evil scheme by the Bush administration, then wow they are really taking over huh? If they could plan an absolutely perfect coordinated attack on there own people then surely they could handle everything else with such precision, right? Looks like they took their masterful scheming ability's and applied that to their warmaking huh?

Yes it does, because they have never been exposed to such technologies as the controls for flying a commercial airliner. Seriously.........
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[QUOTE="KrayzieJ"][QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="KrayzieJ"][QUOTE="daniel52587"]In the constitution is says we can throw out our form of government. We can unite and throw out everybody if needed. Put those responsible to death and what not. I wouldn't be surprised because I already know it was an inside job, and everyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. The people are ultimately in power, not the government.daniel52587
how can you say it was an inside job? how on earth would killing several thousands of your own people be a wise decision? Don't come at me with that "oh so they could justify a war " I don't buy this bull ****. America can go to war with who ever they want, under false pretenses of spreading freedom/liberty/justice all they want. Bush did not need to kill his own people to do that. Can you please explain why "terrorists" (I hate to use that word) just happily go along with this false accusation that they carried out the attacks? This false flag policy BS is a total sham with absolutely no logical or coherent argument.

Because I will never believe that terrorist that come from a 3rd world country could possibly fly a commercial airliner, which has very complicated mechanics, into a building that is just a dot in the sky. Anyone who believes that needs to be shot just for stupidity. Seriously, you believe that? I dont know why our government would do it, that is beyond me. But I will tell you that no one from a 3rd world country is capable of that.

WTF? what, the fact that someone comes from a 3rd world country automatically makes them incapable of learning to fly an airplane? This is the stuff I am talking about, people who support the conspiracies only come up with blank suppositions and unsupported accusations. Lets say this was part of some grand evil scheme by the Bush administration, then wow they are really taking over huh? If they could plan an absolutely perfect coordinated attack on there own people then surely they could handle everything else with such precision, right? Looks like they took their masterful scheming ability's and applied that to their warmaking huh?

Yes it does, because they have never been exposed to such technologies as the controls for flying a commercial airliner. Seriously.........

Indeed, how could these people learn to fly a comercial airliner;

Unless, communists gave them the education! The KGB has the power to do just that! :o

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For one, I would consider it to be Treason. Regardless, if the people rebel against the government, law doesnt really make a difference anymore does it. daniel52587
Nor would the Constitution, which makes me wonder why you mentioned it in the first place