Proof that you don't have free will.

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#1 MetalDogGear
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If you tried to stab your arm with a knife, you wouldn't want to do it.

 

Ergo, you have no free will.

 

Ergo, it doesn't exist. 

Ergo, we are all slaves.

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#3 Michael0134567
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Alrighty then...

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#5 dave123321
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free will test guys: choose a 3 digit number then add the total of it's digits to the number. Now multiply the new number by the new numbers last digit. Post the result
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#6 C_Glass
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'free will' is actually the name of the homeless guy I abducted, so yes, I do have free will and there's nothing you can do to free him!

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#7 johnd13
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wut

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#9 DirigiblePlums
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If you tried to stab your arm with a knife, you wouldn't want to do it.

 

Ergo, you have no free will.

 

Ergo, it doesn't exist. 

Ergo, we are all slaves.

MetalDogGear
People stab themselves all the time Ergo, your theory is wrong Ergo, your logic is not sound Ergo, you are a moron.
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#10 mindstorm
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Because you desire to not be harmed by a knife more than you desire to stab yourself does not mean no choice was made. Certainly our human nature and circumstances influences the way we make choices but this does not mean we are not responsible for our actions.
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#11 Gaming-Planet
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If you tried to stab your arm with a knife, you wouldn't want to do it.

 

Ergo, you have no free will.

 

Ergo, it doesn't exist. 

Ergo, we are all slaves.

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Not wanting to do it is my free will.
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#12 KungfuKitten
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free will test guys: choose a 3 digit number then add the total of it's digits to the number. Now multiply the new number by the new numbers last digit. Post the resultdave123321

No.
I won.

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#13 dave123321
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[QUOTE="dave123321"]free will test guys: choose a 3 digit number then add the total of it's digits to the number. Now multiply the new number by the new numbers last digit. Post the resultKungfuKitten


No.
I won.

Everyone wins
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#14 DirigiblePlums
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[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

[QUOTE="dave123321"]free will test guys: choose a 3 digit number then add the total of it's digits to the number. Now multiply the new number by the new numbers last digit. Post the resultdave123321


No.
I won.

Everyone wins

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free will test guys: choose a 3 digit number then add the total of it's digits to the number. Now multiply the new number by the new numbers last digit. Post the resultdave123321

111 = 3

111 + 3 = 114

114 x 4 = 456

456

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#16 Swanogt19
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uh huh.
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#17 lostrib
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I don't follow your logic...

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#18 -Sun_Tzu-
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Now what

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#19 wis3boi
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I sorta agree with the title, but your OP and general thread is bad

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#20 MonsieurX
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Did you say Free Willy?

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#21 metroidfood
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Just stabbed my arm. Guess you're feeling a little stupid now, aren't you?

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#22 MannyDelgado
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Free will obviously doesn't exist, but that is a super-dumb way to go about trying to prove it
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#23 Intrinsic29
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I get that this is a joke thread but I think it's true that people don't have free will, given common definitions of free will. Or, more specifically, I think that the common definitions of free will simply don't make sense. People act 100% in accordance with the nature of the physical matter of their brains. None of us have the ability to act in any other way than what's dictated by the nature of our brains. It's still true that we're autonomous and responsible for our actions but only within the physical boundaries of the nature of our brains which we cannot transcend. It may seem like a merely semantic difference but I think this realization has some important moral implications. For instance, I don't think that 'bad people' like psychopaths or even just douchey people ever 'chose' to have the biological priors and/or life experiences that ultimately caused them to be the way they are and therefore I don't think it's reasonable to hold any animosity toward them or to think that they 'deserve' any kind of retribution. People who aren't 'bad people' are merely lucky that they don't have the right (or wrong) biological priors and/or haven't been subjeceted to certain life experiences. That's not to say that action shouldn't be taken to protect society from 'bad people' in a lot of cases but I think we can relinquish a lot of the negativity we feel toward people like this once we internalize this realization about 'free will.'

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#24 SOedipus
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I got called in to work and I said no.

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#26 GIJames248
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haha, of all the arguments against free will I cannot believe you fabricated/used that one :lol:

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#27 dave123321
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253 = 10 253 + 10 = 263 263 x 3 = 789 789
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#28 Postal_Guy
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Just stabbed my arm. Guess you're feeling a little stupid now, aren't you?

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Ice.

Cream.

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jOOOO

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#30 megagene
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Ugh. Where's the effort?
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#32 Shottayouth13-
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Ergo, you're an idiot.
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i swear to god. In crazy threads like this why is the first reply always so poignant?? IT ALWAYS HAPPENS
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#34 tjricardo089
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One word for you... emos.

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#35 Laihendi
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I curious to know how not wanting to engage in irrational self-mutilation disproves free will.
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#36 themajormayor
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I curious to know how not wanting to engage in irrational self-mutilation disproves free will.Laihendi
His argument seems to infer the opposite
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#37 rragnaar
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Possibly the weakest proof I've ever seen.
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#38 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="dave123321"]free will test guys: choose a 3 digit number then add the total of it's digits to the number. Now multiply the new number by the new numbers last digit. Post the resultDJ-Lafleur

111 = 3

111 + 3 = 114

114 x 4 = 456

456

341 = 8 341+8 =249 349*9= 3141
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#39 coolbeans90
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In the spirit of dave's trick, take any 3 digit number.

now multipy it by 7

Now multipy it by 11

Now multipy it by 13

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#40 CountBleck12
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Lame.

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#41 Rattlesnake_8
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Worst thread posted in a while.
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[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="dave123321"]free will test guys: choose a 3 digit number then add the total of it's digits to the number. Now multiply the new number by the new numbers last digit. Post the resultsurrealnumber5

111 = 3

111 + 3 = 114

114 x 4 = 456

456

341 = 8 341+8 =249 349*9= 3141

n=256 2+5+6=13=k 6k = 78
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#43 IdioticIcarus
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I feel like I have no free will whenever a girl scout asks, "Would you like to buy some Girl Scout Cookies?" Yes, seven boxes please.
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#44 Zuzuvela
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TC obviously didnt see 127 hours
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#46 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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So nobody has ever self harmed? 

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#47 TINYOWNSYOU
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TC obviously didnt see 127 hoursZuzuvela

Ha! This.

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#48 CursedChamp
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Ok...