Protestantism VS Catholicism Round 837

Who, in your opinion is the true champion of Christianity? Who is more in line with the teachings of the "Messiah"? The Catholics who believe their church is directly descending from christ himself, or the protestant who protest? Who is the better evolved-jew (according to one ann coulter)

Lets hear it. This is no different than atheism vs christianity mind you (theoretically speaking).

By the way, thats great that you're atheist or agnostic this isnt the thread for that.

Im aware that I said I dont like religion threads, but usually religions threads are atheists vs christianity. At least i bring quallity to mediocrity.

again, this isnt the atheist thread.

Go ask Ireland.KG86

according to them, Catholics win.

Of course it's different than Athiests versus Christians, because Protestants and Catholics share the same basic tenets of belief, instead of being opposed on the basic tenets of belief.

This is a pointless thread. Obviously, a protestant will say they're the correct religion, while catholics will say the same. Just like athiests, buddhists, hindus, jews, muslims, scientologists and worshipers of Odin will all say they're right.

Of course it's different than Athiests versus Christians, because Protestants and Catholics share the same basic tenets of belief, instead of being opposed on the basic tenets of belief.

This is a pointless thread. Obviously, a protestant will say they're the correct religion, while catholics will say the same. Just like athiests, buddhists, hindus, jews, muslims, scientologists and worshipers of Odin will all say they're right.

ElZilcho90

Of course it's different than Athiests versus Christians, because Protestants and Catholics share the same basic tenets of belief, instead of being opposed on the basic tenets of belief.

This is a pointless thread. Obviously, a protestant will say they're the correct religion, while catholics will say the same. Just like athiests, buddhists, hindus, jews, muslims, scientologists and worshipers of Odin will all say they're right.

ElZilcho90

atheism vs christianity is the same because even so, both sides are blindly following. You mean to tell me that atheists have sound proof that there are no deities in the universe? Can christians prove god? no way. same thing petty differences.

[QUOTE="ElZilcho90"]

Of course it's different than Athiests versus Christians, because Protestants and Catholics share the same basic tenets of belief, instead of being opposed on the basic tenets of belief.

This is a pointless thread. Obviously, a protestant will say they're the correct religion, while catholics will say the same. Just like athiests, buddhists, hindus, jews, muslims, scientologists and worshipers of Odin will all say they're right.

H8sMikeMoore

atheism vs christianity is the same because even so, both sides are blindly following. You mean to tell me that atheists have sound proof that there are no deities in the universe? Can christians prove god? no way. same thing petty differences.

See, the difference between those two arguments is that one group actually agrees with one another on the basics. Athiests and Christians are completely contrary on such basic tenets of the faith as the existance of God. Protestants and Catholics agree on the basics. It's not an acceptable comparison.

It's not an issue of provability, it's an issue of how much argument, and on what topics, occurs between two groups.

atheism vs christianity is the same because even so, both sides are blindly following. You mean to tell me that atheists have sound proof that there are no deities in the universe? Can christians prove god? no way. same thing petty differences.

H8sMikeMoore

Simplistic understanding of why people believe.

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atheism vs christianity is the same because even so, both sides are blindly following. You mean to tell me that atheists have sound proof that there are no deities in the universe? Can christians prove god? no way. same thing petty differences.

LJS9502_basic

Simplistic understanding of why people believe.

simplistic understanding is WHY people believe, or dont.

simplistic understanding is WHY people believe, or dont.

H8sMikeMoore

That's not true at all. You really shouldn't generalize what you don't understand.;)

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simplistic understanding is WHY people believe, or dont.

LJS9502_basic

That's not true at all. You really shouldn't generalize what you don't understand.;)

enlighten me oh great one. your lack of opinion to somehow flame me is so enticing

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

simplistic understanding is WHY people believe, or dont.

LJS9502_basic

That's not true at all. You really shouldn't generalize what you don't understand.;)

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

simplistic understanding is WHY people believe, or dont.

H8sMikeMoore

That's not true at all. You really shouldn't generalize what you don't understand.;)

enlighten me oh great one. your lack of opinion to somehow flame me is so enticing

At least I'm not generalizing a topic I have no basis in understanding. People do think about their beliefs you know. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean they haven't.:roll:

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

simplistic understanding is WHY people believe, or dont.

LJS9502_basic

That's not true at all. You really shouldn't generalize what you don't understand.;)

enlighten me oh great one. your lack of opinion to somehow flame me is so enticing

At least I'm not generalizing a topic I have no basis in understanding. People do think about their beliefs you know. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean they haven't.:roll:

How exactly ARENT you generalizing? You're assuming that i dont understand religion or atheism. You need to assume to generalize. You're really avoiding giving some kind of reason as to how im generalizing arent you?

How exactly ARENT you generalizing? You're assuming that i dont understand religion or atheism. You need to assume to generalize. You're really avoiding giving some kind of reason as to how im generalizing arent you?

H8sMikeMoore

I haven't generalized anything and you have. Your first post showed your experience with this question. Your WORDS are what I based my comment on. I can only go by what YOU said.

Why is generalizing a big deal, its just to narrow down oppinions. The answer to who is right or wrong wont be answered in a Gamespot Forum. Gerneralizing or Not Generalizing its about different views and oppinions.Special_8

Generalizing always has an inherent fault in it since no one group is 100% similar.:|

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How exactly ARENT you generalizing? You're assuming that i dont understand religion or atheism. You need to assume to generalize. You're really avoiding giving some kind of reason as to how im generalizing arent you?

LJS9502_basic

I haven't generalized anything and you have. Your first post showed your experience with this question. Your WORDS are what I based my comment on. I can only go by what YOU said.

and seeing how I havent posted my own beliefs how would you know that I dont understand these topics mr. editing posts.

[QUOTE="Special_8"]Why is generalizing a big deal, its just to narrow down oppinions. The answer to who is right or wrong wont be answered in a Gamespot Forum. Gerneralizing or Not Generalizing its about different views and oppinions.LJS9502_basic

Generalizing always has an inherent fault in it since no one group is 100% similar.:|

and seeing how I havent posted my own beliefs how would you know that I dont understand these topics mr. editing posts.

H8sMikeMoore

I haven't edited anything....and you straight out said.....

atheism vs christianity is the same because even so, both sides are blindly following.

H8sMikeMoore

Which is false.....again YOUR words.:lol:

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Special_8"]Why is generalizing a big deal, its just to narrow down oppinions. The answer to who is right or wrong wont be answered in a Gamespot Forum. Gerneralizing or Not Generalizing its about different views and oppinions.Special_8

Generalizing always has an inherent fault in it since no one group is 100% similar.:|

Where in my post above did I mention religion. Oh wait...I didn't.:roll:

Second.....we're talking generalizations here. Why are you defending that which breeds misunderstanding and hate?

Odin is kewl!Special_8

Atheism vs Christianity IS basically the same Argument as Protestant vs Catholicism. Yes, different oppionions, but they are the same as in Niether of the sides can prove they are the correct one. DIFFERENT oppionions is what this was all based around.Special_8

No..it's not.

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and seeing how I havent posted my own beliefs how would you know that I dont understand these topics mr. editing posts.

LJS9502_basic

I haven't edited anything....and you straight out said.....

atheism vs christianity is the same because even so, both sides are blindly following.

H8sMikeMoore

Which is false.....again YOUR words.:lol:

I think its cute that you think you even came close to winning this. Let me explain why you didnt in a few small words.

Atheism vs Christianity is the same in the sense that its petty arguing thats what I was getting at Mr. Generalization. How about instead of assuming and acting like youre hot stuff you possibly... i dont know ask what someone means when you dont fully comprehend?

Yeah they are my words, and theyre very fine words if you ask me.

They do both blindy follow. Looks like I have better understanding than you do ;)

[QUOTE="Special_8"]Atheism vs Christianity IS basically the same Argument as Protestant vs Catholicism. Yes, different oppionions, but they are the same as in Niether of the sides can prove they are the correct one. DIFFERENT oppionions is what this was all based around.LJS9502_basic

No..it's not.

actually he has a much better understanding of what im talking about than you do

so lets get back on topic jack

Catholics VS Protestants

I think its cute that you think you even came close to winning this. Let me explain why you didnt in a few small words.

Atheism vs Christianity is the same in the sense that its petty arguing thats what I was getting at Mr. Generalization. How about instead of assuming and acting like youre hot stuff you possibly... i dont know ask what someone means when you dont fully comprehend?

Yeah they are my words, and theyre very fine words if you ask me.

They do both blindy follow. Looks like I have better understanding than you do ;)

H8sMikeMoore

Oh I've already used your words to prove you wrong. Stick with my argument with you and not the one you had with someone else. Two different topics...k?

As for being the Protestant vs Catholic being the same as atheist vs Christian...not even CLOSE. Both protestants and catholics believe essentially the same thing with little differences. Atheists believe something VERY different and diametrically opposed.

Where is your proof that all people blindly follow their beliefs...which is what you said. Not your OPINION...but proof.

Again...you have simplistic understanding of what people do when they choose a belief. Perhaps you have no strong beliefs in life and can't get that people actually THINK about what they believe.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

I think its cute that you think you even came close to winning this. Let me explain why you didnt in a few small words.

Atheism vs Christianity is the same in the sense that its petty arguing thats what I was getting at Mr. Generalization. How about instead of assuming and acting like youre hot stuff you possibly... i dont know ask what someone means when you dont fully comprehend?

Yeah they are my words, and theyre very fine words if you ask me.

They do both blindy follow. Looks like I have better understanding than you do ;)

LJS9502_basic

Oh I've already used your words to prove you wrong. Stick with my argument with you and not the one you had with someone else. Two different topics...k?

As for being the Protestant vs Catholic being the same as atheist vs Christian...not even CLOSE. Both protestants and catholics believe essentially the same thing with little differences. Atheists believe something VERY different and diametrically opposed.

Where is your proof that all people blindly follow their beliefs...which is what you said. Not your OPINION...but proof.

Again...you have simplistic understanding of what people do when they choose a belief. Perhaps you have no strong beliefs in life and can't get that people actually THINK about what they believe.

you HAVENT proved me wrong, you PROVED that you dont understand what this thread is about. All you're proving is that you're either a troll or lack comprehension skills

They are the same in the sense (as ive said many times which you havent read apparently) that they blindly follow

Now as for proof? The burdens on you. Prove the existance or the lack of deities.

Bottom line is, i win. You hate it. Move on

you HAVENT proved me wrong, you PROVED that you dont understand what this thread is about. All you're proving is that you're either a troll or lack comprehension skills

They are the same in the sense (as ive said many times which you havent read apparently) that they blindly follow

Now as for proof? The burdens on you. Prove the existance or the lack of deities.

Bottom line is, i win. You hate it. Move on

H8sMikeMoore

:lol: You won because you thinik so? No. You stated that beliefs are blindly followed. Where is your proof? It's simply not true. Yes...there may be some people that don't think....but most do. Just because you don't like/agree with what they think does NOT mean they haven't arrived at a conclusion because they didn't think or consider it.

That is the statement YOU made that I am arguing against. As for the thread itself...and that WAS your answer to it.....it's NOT the same as disagreeing with atheists...at all.

I'll prove them when you show me where MY ARGUMENT IN THIS THREAD WAS EVER ABOUT DIETIES.

You didn't win anthing.:lol:

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

and seeing how I havent posted my own beliefs how would you know that I dont understand these topics mr. editing posts.

H8sMikeMoore

I haven't edited anything....and you straight out said.....

atheism vs christianity is the same because even so, both sides are blindly following.

H8sMikeMoore

Which is false.....again YOUR words.:lol:

I think its cute that you think you even came close to winning this. Let me explain why you didnt in a few small words.

Atheism vs Christianity is the same in the sense that its petty arguing thats what I was getting at Mr. Generalization. How about instead of assuming and acting like youre hot stuff you possibly... i dont know ask what someone means when you dont fully comprehend?

Yeah they are my words, and theyre very fine words if you ask me.

They do both blindy follow. Looks like I have better understanding than you do ;)

Weirdly, I have to agree with LJS9502_basic here.

Atheism is not followed blindly. There is no atheist doctrine to follow. It is a believe that is arrived at personally and independently. All religions require faith to believe something without any proof. Globally, there are many religions with many Gods.

Rational Atheism uses the scientific framework of discovery to understand existence. If there is something that science does not know about, people create hypotheses (using quantifiable evidence) and discuss them without prejudice to discover the truth.

To state that atheism (a state of dis-belief) is followed as blindly as Christianity (a faith), you do seem to display a lack of understanding with regard to religion and belief.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

you HAVENT proved me wrong, you PROVED that you dont understand what this thread is about. All you're proving is that you're either a troll or lack comprehension skills

They are the same in the sense (as ive said many times which you havent read apparently) that they blindly follow

Now as for proof? The burdens on you. Prove the existance or the lack of deities.

Bottom line is, i win. You hate it. Move on

LJS9502_basic

:lol: You won because you thinik so? No. You stated that beliefs are blindly followed. Where is your proof? It's simply not true. Yes...there may be some people that don't think....but most do. Just because you don't like/agree with what they think does NOT mean they haven't arrived at a conclusion because they didn't think or consider it.

That is the statement YOU made that I am arguing against. As for the thread itself...and that WAS your answer to it.....it's NOT the same as disagreeing with atheists...at all.

I'll prove them when you show me where MY ARGUMENT IN THIS THREAD WAS EVER ABOUT DIETIES.

You didn't win anthing.:lol:

I win because this is an argument that you CANT win. There is a hole that you cant get out of

The proof that they BLINDLY FOLLOW is in the fact that you CANT PROVE THEM EITHER WAY.

Its not about wether I like or dislike them. Never stated if I like christians, or atheists.

Clearly you dont understand the purpose of this thread (and my reasoning, and entire point). Im going to make it very simple for you k?

Christianity = Has a god, they have no proof. Requires faith which is following blindly

Atheists = Have no deities, Have no proof that there isnt deities.

You're hoping that I said that atheism is somehow part of the same religion as christianity. Which I cant see how you got that when the quote you made earlier explained what I meant so that even a child could understand.

You said that all religions require faith to believe something without any proof. how is that different from athieism. Athiest choose to disbeleave in religion and its teachings without any proof. Wouldnt that fall under the same thing?Special_8

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

and seeing how I havent posted my own beliefs how would you know that I dont understand these topics mr. editing posts.

RationalAtheist

I haven't edited anything....and you straight out said.....

atheism vs christianity is the same because even so, both sides are blindly following.

H8sMikeMoore

Which is false.....again YOUR words.:lol:

I think its cute that you think you even came close to winning this. Let me explain why you didnt in a few small words.

Atheism vs Christianity is the same in the sense that its petty arguing thats what I was getting at Mr. Generalization. How about instead of assuming and acting like youre hot stuff you possibly... i dont know ask what someone means when you dont fully comprehend?

Yeah they are my words, and theyre very fine words if you ask me.

They do both blindy follow. Looks like I have better understanding than you do ;)

Weirdly, I have to agree with LJS9502_basic here.

Atheism is not followed blindly. There is no atheist doctrine to follow. It is a believe that is arrived at personally and independently. All religions require faith to believe something without any proof. Globally, there are many religions with many Gods.

Rational Atheism uses the scientific framework of discovery to understand existence. If there is something that science does not know about, people create hypotheses (using quantifiable evidence) and discuss them without prejudice to discover the truth.

To state that atheism (a state of dis-belief) is followed as blindly as Christianity (a faith), you do seem to display a lack of understanding with regard to religion and belief.

Science has not proved the lack of deities. Im not saying atheism is AS blind as christianity, but there is a certain level of faith in atheists that their is no god, or gods. They have the faith that they are right, and the other cant be. Im getting at agnosticism.