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#1 Lebbin
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There have been numerous religion threads in which a person tries to persuade that God exists to unbelievers and so far I don't think anyone has converted either way. So if we can't "prove" to you Christianity is true, you find proof it's false.

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This is a Babel Fish.  It is small, yellow and leech-like, and probably the oddest thing in the Universe. It feeds on brainwave energy received not from its own carrier but from those around it. It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with. It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic matrix, formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with nerve signals picked up from the speech centres of the brain which has supplied them. The practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear, you can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language.

It, quite simply, could not have evolved by chance.  It proves that something must have created it - thus, proving that God exists.  But without faith, God is nothing, and with proof, there can be no faith, so therefore God does not exist.

QED.

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This is a Babel Fish.  It is small, yellow and leech-like, and probably the oddest thing in the Universe. It feeds on brainwave energy received not from its own carrier but from those around it. It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with. It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic matrix, formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with nerve signals picked up from the speech centres of the brain which has supplied them. The practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear, you can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language.

It, quite simply, could not have evolved by chance.  It proves that something must have created it - thus, proving that God exists.  But without faith, God is nothing, and with proof, there can be no faith, so therefore God does not exist.

QED.

GabuEx
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#4 chessmaster1989
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There have been numerous religion threads in which a person tries to persuade that God exists to unbelievers and so far I don't think anyone has converted either way. So if we can't "prove" to you Christianity is true, you find proof it's false.

Lebbin

 I hate to break it to you, but that's not how it works. You have a theory-there is a God-so it is up to you to prove it, not to us to disprove it.

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#5 Red-XIII
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You cannot touch, taste, smell, hear or see God. He cannot be measured by any empirical means, therefore he cannot exist if you cannot prove him to be true.

If you are to believe that he exists because he can't be disproven, then the tooth fairy, santa claus and the boogeyman are just as real.

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#6 jimmyjammer69
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Lebbin, please prove to me that the above Babel fish does not exist.
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This is a Babel Fish.  It is small, yellow and leech-like, and probably the oddest thing in the Universe. It feeds on brainwave energy received not from its own carrier but from those around it. It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with. It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic matrix, formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with nerve signals picked up from the speech centres of the brain which has supplied them. The practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear, you can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language.

It, quite simply, could not have evolved by chance.  It proves that something must have created it - thus, proving that God exists.  But without faith, God is nothing, and with proof, there can be no faith, so therefore God does not exist.

QED.

GabuEx

Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy ftw! 

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#8 dracula_16
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You've already got your mind made up before someone makes the first move.
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#9 hellside
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I think there's article called: a hundred ways to prove that god exist and below that article, is an article called: a hundred ways to prove that god do not exist
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Surely any deity - no matter how whimsical - would never unleash anything like this upon the world.

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#11 II_Seraphim_II
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Surely and deity - no matter how whimsical - would never unleash anything like this upon the world.

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#12 Funky_Llama
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Do you mean God or Christianity? Make your mind up.
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#13 redwolf22
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God(s) are one of these things that cannot be disproved, even if we know every law and mechanisim working in the universe. For god(s) are behond our reality, and so they are behond scientific experiments. To deny the existance of god(s) as a plausible concept is stupid, as they cannot be disproved.

What I contest is the belief system built around it, for there is no logical reason for it to be true as it is a creation of mankind.

So, a quick summary:

Gods existance = Cannot be sure; to be 100% sure either way is deluding yourself

Belief system = A creation of mankind; in no means (and should not be regarded as) true

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Prove to me that Xenu, Zeus, Mars, Ceres, Athena, Aphrodite, Ares, Hera, Jupiter, The Flying Spaghetti Monster, fairies, unicorns, orks and the like do not exist. If you can't, then they do.

That's your logic, ain't it, TC?

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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

This is a Babel Fish.  It is small, yellow and leech-like, and probably the oddest thing in the Universe. It feeds on brainwave energy received not from its own carrier but from those around it. It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with. It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic matrix, formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with nerve signals picked up from the speech centres of the brain which has supplied them. The practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear, you can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language.

It, quite simply, could not have evolved by chance.  It proves that something must have created it - thus, proving that God exists.  But without faith, God is nothing, and with proof, there can be no faith, so therefore God does not exist.

QED.

Nice!
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There have been numerous religion threads in which a person tries to persuade that God exists to unbelievers and so far I don't think anyone has converted either way. So if we can't "prove" to you Christianity is true, you find proof it's false.

Lebbin
Uhmm so your trying to prove the christian god a... well christian believe the bible to be fact.... so there was a talking snake in the bible, there was 600 year pluse man who built a giant boat and put 2 of EVERY animal on it, you think the earth is only 6,000 years old, a man lived in a whales stomach for 3 days, i could go on....if you think those are facts i cant help you...... now if you want us to prove "god" now thats impossible because no one living knows what happens after we pass.... i dont know an niether does anyone else
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#17 Devvy01
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Walk out in front of a bus and say "God save me".
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#18 RadBooley
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No. Figure it out for yourself like everybody else.
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#19 Lolster12345
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You cannot touch, taste, smell, hear or see God. He cannot be measured by any empirical means, therefore he cannot exist if you cannot prove him to be true.

If you are to believe that he exists because he can't be disproven, then the tooth fairy, santa claus and the boogeyman are just as real.

Red-XIII
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This is a Babel Fish.  It is small, yellow and leech-like, and probably the oddest thing in the Universe. It feeds on brainwave energy received not from its own carrier but from those around it. It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with. It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic matrix, formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with nerve signals picked up from the speech centres of the brain which has supplied them. The practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear, you can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language.

It, quite simply, could not have evolved by chance.  It proves that something must have created it - thus, proving that God exists.  But without faith, God is nothing, and with proof, there can be no faith, so therefore God does not exist.

QED.

GabuEx
DING DING DING. /thread
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#21 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Lebbin"]

There have been numerous religion threads in which a person tries to persuade that God exists to unbelievers and so far I don't think anyone has converted either way. So if we can't "prove" to you Christianity is true, you find proof it's false.

bsman00
Uhmm so your trying to prove the christian god a... well christian believe the bible to be fact.... so there was a talking snake in the bible, there was 600 year pluse man who built a giant boat and put 2 of EVERY animal on it, you think the earth is only 6,000 years old, a man lived in a whales stomach for 3 days, i could go on....if you think those are facts i cant help you...... now if you want us to prove "god" now thats impossible because no one living knows what happens after we pass.... i dont know an niether does anyone else

Christians believe they are symbols. The snake is a symbol for evil. Not a talking snake.:|
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#22 bsman00
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[QUOTE="bsman00"][QUOTE="Lebbin"]

There have been numerous religion threads in which a person tries to persuade that God exists to unbelievers and so far I don't think anyone has converted either way. So if we can't "prove" to you Christianity is true, you find proof it's false.

LJS9502_basic

Uhmm so your trying to prove the christian god a... well christian believe the bible to be fact.... so there was a talking snake in the bible, there was 600 year pluse man who built a giant boat and put 2 of EVERY animal on it, you think the earth is only 6,000 years old, a man lived in a whales stomach for 3 days, i could go on....if you think those are facts i cant help you...... now if you want us to prove "god" now thats impossible because no one living knows what happens after we pass.... i dont know an niether does anyone else

Christians believe they are symbols. The snake is a symbol for evil. Not a talking snake.:|

Umm in the bible its says a snake talked to eve or adam (i forget) to eat that damn apple... then after they ate the apple they were screwed.....what was the symbol of the guy being in a whale for 3 days? and most christians believe the noahs ark story as actual fact :|

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This is a Babel Fish.  It is small, yellow and leech-like, and probably the oddest thing in the Universe. It feeds on brainwave energy received not from its own carrier but from those around it. It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with. It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic matrix, formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with nerve signals picked up from the speech centres of the brain which has supplied them. The practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear, you can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language.

It, quite simply, could not have evolved by chance.  It proves that something must have created it - thus, proving that God exists.  But without faith, God is nothing, and with proof, there can be no faith, so therefore God does not exist.

QED.

GabuEx
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#24 Brainkiller05
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God does not exist.
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#25 empurer
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Lol this forum is pathetic.

 

 

Walk out in front of a bus and say "God save me".Devvy01

You don't know what you're talking about lololol

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#26 ithilgore2006
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You are the one with the belief, the burden of proof is on you. You can't just say "I believe ___, if you can't disprove it, it's fact!". That applies to everything, including religion.
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#27 foxhound_fox
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Why disprove something that has yet to be proven? If something does not have any evidence suggesting its existence, then why must one disprove a non-existent entity? The burden of proof lies within the affirmative.
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Umm in the bible its says a snake talked to eve or adam (i forget) to eat that damn apple... then after they ate the apple they were screwed.....what was the symbol of the guy being in a whale for 3 days? and most christians believe the noahs ark story as actual fact :|

bsman00
Metaphors dude. There did exist a flood back in the day in that area. Which was the entirety of the known world to them.
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#29 empurer
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[QUOTE="Lebbin"]

There have been numerous religion threads in which a person tries to persuade that God exists to unbelievers and so far I don't think anyone has converted either way. So if we can't "prove" to you Christianity is true, you find proof it's false.

bsman00

Uhmm so your trying to prove the christian god a... well christian believe the bible to be fact.... so there was a talking snake in the bible, there was 600 year pluse man who built a giant boat and put 2 of EVERY animal on it, you think the earth is only 6,000 years old, a man lived in a whales stomach for 3 days, i could go on....if you think those are facts i cant help you...... now if you want us to prove "god" now thats impossible because no one living knows what happens after we pass.... i dont know an niether does anyone else

Lol, another person who doesn't know what he's talking about.

lolololol

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[QUOTE="empurer"][QUOTE="bsman00"][QUOTE="Lebbin"]

There have been numerous religion threads in which a person tries to persuade that God exists to unbelievers and so far I don't think anyone has converted either way. So if we can't "prove" to you Christianity is true, you find proof it's false.

Uhmm so your trying to prove the christian god a... well christian believe the bible to be fact.... so there was a talking snake in the bible, there was 600 year pluse man who built a giant boat and put 2 of EVERY animal on it, you think the earth is only 6,000 years old, a man lived in a whales stomach for 3 days, i could go on....if you think those are facts i cant help you...... now if you want us to prove "god" now thats impossible because no one living knows what happens after we pass.... i dont know an niether does anyone else

Lol, another person who doesn't know what he's talking about.

lolololol

You say this forum is pathtic.. you dont say why... you say i dont know what im talking about... and you dont say why... explain buddy
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#31 -Jiggles-
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Dammit, GabuEx, religious threads aren't fun anymore if you keep coming in and destroying the initial arguement at post one. :(
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#32 empurer
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All the cool kids are atheists.

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#33 bsman00
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All the cool kids are atheists.

empurer
Are you avoiding my question?
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#34 empurer
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It, quite simply, could not have evolved by chance.  It proves that something must have created it - thus, proving that God exists.  But without faith, God is nothing, and with proof, there can be no faith, so therefore God does not exist.

QED.

GabuEx

You could argue that there would be greater faith in god if he were proven to exist.

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#35 empurer
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[QUOTE="empurer"]

All the cool kids are atheists.

bsman00

Are you avoiding my question?

Yeah.

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You could argue that there would be greater faith in god if he were proven to exist. empurer

If God were proven to exist, you wouldn't need faith.
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#38 empurer
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[QUOTE="empurer"]You could argue that there would be greater faith in god if he were proven to exist. foxhound_fox

If God were proven to exist, you wouldn't need faith.

I have faith in my government.

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#39 empurer
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[QUOTE="empurer"][QUOTE="bsman00"] Are you avoiding my question? bsman00

 

Yeah.

are you scared? dont come in here acting like you know ****

Man, I'm trembling.

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#40 bsman00
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[QUOTE="empurer"][QUOTE="bsman00"][QUOTE="empurer"]

 

Yeah.

are you scared? dont come in here acting like you know ****

Man, I'm trembling.

o you must be a shill
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#41 LJS9502_basic
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Dammit, GabuEx, religious threads aren't fun anymore if you keep coming in and destroying the initial arguement at post one. :(-Jiggles-
Don't worry....he didn't.;)
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Prove to me that Xenu, Zeus, Mars, Ceres, Athena, Aphrodite, Ares, Hera, Jupiter, The Flying Spaghetti Monster, fairies, unicorns, orks and the like do not exist. If you can't, then they do.

That's your logic, ain't it, TC?

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Mars exists, it's a chocolate bar brand. On a more serious note, I don't believe this question could ever be properly answered / proved / disproved. Taken from another angle, an atheist could certainly ask "Prove to me that (Insert all Gods here) exist, and if you cannot, then they don't. It's like a maths equation, 0=0 or something like that. I dunno, I am not at all sure of what I've just typed but the existence of God still remains a mystery. :? (No I do not considerate the Shroud of Turin as actual proof!)
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[QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]Dammit, GabuEx, religious threads aren't fun anymore if you keep coming in and destroying the initial arguement at post one. :(LJS9502_basic
Don't worry....he didn't.;)

I like you.

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#44 vlin1108
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Can't scientists harvest and reproduce the Babel Fish species for further study and profit? Lots of people would be interested in buying a fish that could make you understand all the languages of the world. How rare is it, exactly? I've never heard of a fish that deserves to not be eaten before; this is amazing!
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#45 markop2003
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="empurer"]You could argue that there would be greater faith in god if he were proven to exist. empurer


If God were proven to exist, you wouldn't need faith.

I have faith in my government.

faith that they exist or faith that they're doing the right thing? If you were provided proof of both then it would no longer be faith it would be fact
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#46 empurer
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[QUOTE="empurer"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]
If God were proven to exist, you wouldn't need faith.markop2003

I have faith in my government.

faith that they exist or faith that they're doing the right thing? If you were provided proof of both then it would no longer be faith it would be fact

Yeah, too bad I wasn't arguing that.

lol

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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

This is a Babel Fish.  It is small, yellow and leech-like, and probably the oddest thing in the Universe. It feeds on brainwave energy received not from its own carrier but from those around it. It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with. It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic matrix, formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with nerve signals picked up from the speech centres of the brain which has supplied them. The practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear, you can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language.

It, quite simply, could not have evolved by chance.  It proves that something must have created it - thus, proving that God exists.  But without faith, God is nothing, and with proof, there can be no faith, so therefore God does not exist.

QED.

chester706
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Please proove it is fiction, i have faith in it's existance.
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

This is a Babel Fish.  It is small, yellow and leech-like, and probably the oddest thing in the Universe. It feeds on brainwave energy received not from its own carrier but from those around it. It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with. It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic matrix, formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with nerve signals picked up from the speech centres of the brain which has supplied them. The practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear, you can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language.

It, quite simply, could not have evolved by chance.  It proves that something must have created it - thus, proving that God exists.  But without faith, God is nothing, and with proof, there can be no faith, so therefore God does not exist.

QED.

IZoMBiEI
well done

Indeed.
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#49 LJS9502_basic
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It, quite simply, could not have evolved by chance. It proves that something must have created it - thus, proving that God exists. But without faith, God is nothing, and with proof, there can be no faith, so therefore God does not exist.

QED.

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I have no faith that you exist. Therefore, you do not exist.
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#50 Funky_Llama
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

It, quite simply, could not have evolved by chance. It proves that something must have created it - thus, proving that God exists. But without faith, God is nothing, and with proof, there can be no faith, so therefore God does not exist.

QED.

LJS9502_basic
I have no faith that you exist. Therefore, you do not exist.

But GabuEx is not nothing without faith :o