Putin humiliates Obama by refusing to take counter sanctions.

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#1  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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Russia's foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, initially suggested that Russia would respond in kind by ejecting 35 US diplomats in Moscow and St. Petersburg. Nevertheless, that idea was shot down by Putin, who has effectively chosen "not to dignify the measures taken against Russia with a response," said Michael Kofman, a global fellow at the Wilson Center who specializes in Russian and Eurasian affairs.

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday said the Kremlin "will not resort to irresponsible 'kitchen' diplomacy" in response to new US sanctions for Russia's suspected meddling in the US election process. "Although we have the right to retaliate, Russia would instead plan our further steps to restore Russian-US relations based on the policies of the Trump administration."

Oh, poor poor Obama. Now instead of looking strong, he looks like Putin dismissed him as someone not even worthy to fight.

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#2  Edited By JigglyWiggly_
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lolrussia

russia is a shithole

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#3 mrbojangles25
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maybe

or maybe Putin/Russia really did hack and, fearing escalation, they're essentially submitting to US reprisal and taking their licks. The world is way to interconnected now and even the US and Russia are dependent on each other; both countries have way too much to lose, and little to gain, by heading towards conflict.

I will say this, though: you Obama haters are really, really inconsistent. If the roles were reversed, you'd by decrying Obama as a wimp for not retaliating. But no, since it's Putin against Obama, Putin is not a pussy...no no no, he is a superior that can't be bothered with Obama. Give me a break, dude.

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#4 LJS9502_basic
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What a stupid topic. I would not like if the US didn't respond. Sad that anyone does.

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#5  Edited By firedguy33
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Obama butthurt about Trump winning? Good for Putin to not steep to the level of Clinton/Obama.

At least some people aren't dumb enough to not realize this is just a ploy to ruin Trump once he gets in the White House.

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#6  Edited By iandizion713
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lol Russia is such a joke.

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#7 jhonMalcovich
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@iandizion713 said:

lol Russia is such a joke.

Obama has been schooled by a mature politician like Putin :D

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#8  Edited By kaealy
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I can't take this shit seriously at all from the US side since the shitlist of things CIA and other "agents" has done to interupt/"influence" other countries elections and disrupt their governments. To me in the end, doesnt' matter if the russians hacked anything or not, the skeletons still existed in the closet in the shitshow that was the US election process.

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#9 iandizion713
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@kaealy: That sounds so silly. "O i dont care if Putin placed Trump in power, we brought down Stalin and Hitler."

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#10  Edited By jun_aka_pekto
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@iandizion713 said:

That sounds so silly. "O i dont care if Putin placed Trump in power, we brought down Stalin and Hitler."

Who brought down Stalin, exactly? I know the Allies brought down Hitler and it was the Russkies who steamrolled into Berlin.

But, what exactly do you mean we brought down Stalin? Stalin died while the Soviets were on the rise during the Cold War.

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#11  Edited By xdude85
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Of course Russia isn't going to retaliate, because a dipshit is going to take office soon that's more than eager to be Putin's butt-buddy.

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@jun_aka_pekto said:
@iandizion713 said:

That sounds so silly. "O i dont care if Putin placed Trump in power, we brought down Stalin and Hitler."

Who brought down Stalin, exactly? I know the Allies brought down Hitler and it was the Russkies who steamrolled into Berlin.

But, what exactly do you mean we brought down Stalin? Stalin died while the Soviets were on the rise during the Cold War.

I meant the collapse of the soviet union.

Cant wait to hear what Putins Puppet has to say about this.

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#13 jun_aka_pekto
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@iandizion713 said:

I meant the collapse of the soviet union.

Cant wait to hear what Putins Puppet has to say about this.

I would think a healthy doze of glasnost, spreading throughout the Warsaw Pact and Russia itself, caused the collapse of the Soviet Union. Give their people the credit.

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#14  Edited By iandizion713
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@jun_aka_pekto: Plus some good ol Murican whoop arse. The arms race and sanctions helped dry Russia of its common funds.

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#15 Drunk_PI
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If you love Russia so much, why don't you move there?

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@xdude85 said:

Of course Russia isn't going to retaliate, because a dipshit is going to take office soon that's more than eager to be Putin's butt-buddy.

Yep, and besides, I believe Putin sanctioned the US on several other occasions...

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#17  Edited By jun_aka_pekto
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@iandizion713 said:

@jun_aka_pekto: Plus some good ol Murican whoop arse. The arms race and sanctions helped dry Russia of its common funds.

I was there as a young serviceman when it all happened. Besides the numbers games, we pretty much watched the Soviet Empire implode from within. Then, all of a sudden, we were friends with the Russkies and their aircraft were taking part in US airshows.

Aerospace America 1990. Will Rogers Int'l Airport. Oklahoma City where I volunteered as a parking attendant. Toured their aircraft and shook hands with their crews. A year prior, it would have been unthinkable to see Soviet aircraft on US soil. I was privileged to see one of the first ones.

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#18 iandizion713
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@jun_aka_pekto: Keep your friends close and your evil dictators closer.

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#19 jun_aka_pekto
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@iandizion713 said:

@jun_aka_pekto: Keep your friends close and your evil dictators closer.

Which one?

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#20  Edited By iandizion713
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@jun_aka_pekto: Russia, China, etc.

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Putin just showed how much of a lame duck Obama is.

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@drunk_pi: if you dislike Russia how about moving their to Americanize them :-P

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#24 kaealy
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@iandizion713: Stalin died in the 50's, long before the collapse of the soviet union. What are you on about?

The dirt and corrupt system were already in place, why blame the whisleblowers even If it's a foreign power? The Americans should be greatful that someone brought out the dirty laundry into the light.

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Can't wait for the TrumPutin sex tape. Hotest couple since BrAngelina.

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Can't wait for the TrumPutin sex tape. Hotest couple since BrAngelina.

You know Trump insists he is a POWER bottom. He is the most powerful on the bottom, the most powerful, incredible, incredible.

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#27  Edited By AFBrat77
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I'm glad that Obama took action, but he should have done so before the election. This certainly isn't Obama making things up, most Republicans in office agree about the Russian involvement.

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@playmynutz said:

@drunk_pi: if you dislike Russia how about moving their to Americanize them :-P

If you love Putin so much, why don't you marry him.

:P

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#29  Edited By FireEmblem_Man
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@drunk_pi said:
@playmynutz said:

@drunk_pi: if you dislike Russia how about moving their to Americanize them :-P

If you love Putin so much, why don't you marry him.

:P

Weak comeback, you just repeated the same phrase

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@firedguy33 said:

this is just a ploy to ruin Trump once he gets in the White House.

A ploy to ruin Trump? Trust me, Trump will be responsible for his own ruin! No matter how hard his cabinet and followers try to protect him, he will ultimately under-mind himself and his twitter account is proof of that. lol

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#31  Edited By jun_aka_pekto
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@eliminatorpaige said:
@jun_aka_pekto said:

Who brought down Stalin, exactly? I know the Allies brought down Hitler and it was the Russkies who steamrolled into Berlin.

But, what exactly do you mean we brought down Stalin? Stalin died while the Soviets were on the rise during the Cold War.

Might need a refresher on WW2 history. The allies agreed Russia deserved to take down Hitler and let Russia do it. Stop acting like Russia won that war by itself, it was a team effort.

C'mon man. Take a close look at my statement you underlined and analyze it. There's nothing in that statement that says Russia won the war by itself.

Blessings or no blessings from the Western Allies, it was still the Russkies who went to Berlin and took the prize.

Besides that, you ignored the rest of the sentence. We all know the big 3 in the European Theater were the Brits, the Yanks, and the Russkies.

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Dont worry Putin, Trump gone kiss that boo-boo and make it all better.

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#33  Edited By Jag85
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@FireEmblem_Man said:
@drunk_pi said:
@playmynutz said:

@drunk_pi: if you dislike Russia how about moving their to Americanize them :-P

If you love Putin so much, why don't you marry him.

:P

Weak comeback, you just repeated the same phrase

They're both weak comebacks just repeating the same phrase. The original insult was better:

@drunk_pi said:

If you love Russia so much, why don't you move there?

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#34 ominous_titan
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Obama needs to just fade away now. 8 years of The Great Triggering is nearly over and the west can grow its balls back now.

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Is this what we're considering humiliation right now, some tweets? Russia has been in bad shape since 2014 when oil prices plunged and they were hit with sanctions for supporting separatists in Ukraine and annexing Crimea. The ruble has tumbled, their markets have declines in double digit percentages, and they entered into a recession. But somehow Putin is 'owning' Obama? Putin has inflicted significant harm on the Russian economy and lively hood of the average citizen in his country.

Putin is only humiliating the average Russian citizen due to rampant crony capitalism and a foreign policy which has resulted in damaging international sanctions. It's amazing to to see people praise a leader who imperils his own people so frequently.

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@HoolaHoopMan said:

Is this what we're considering humiliation right now, some tweets? Russia has been in bad shape since 2014 when oil prices plunged and they were hit with sanctions for supporting separatists in Ukraine and annexing Crimea. The ruble has tumbled, their markets have declines in double digit percentages, and they entered into a recession. But somehow Putin is 'owning' Obama? Putin has inflicted significant harm on the Russian economy and lively hood of the average citizen in his country.

Putin is only humiliating the average Russian citizen due to rampant crony capitalism and a foreign policy which has resulted in damaging international sanctions. It's amazing to to see people praise a leader who imperils his own people so frequently.

Leadership isn't about looking after the well being of your citizens, it's about yelling the loudest and carrying the biggest stick.

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@mattbbpl said:
@HoolaHoopMan said:

Is this what we're considering humiliation right now, some tweets? Russia has been in bad shape since 2014 when oil prices plunged and they were hit with sanctions for supporting separatists in Ukraine and annexing Crimea. The ruble has tumbled, their markets have declines in double digit percentages, and they entered into a recession. But somehow Putin is 'owning' Obama? Putin has inflicted significant harm on the Russian economy and lively hood of the average citizen in his country.

Putin is only humiliating the average Russian citizen due to rampant crony capitalism and a foreign policy which has resulted in damaging international sanctions. It's amazing to to see people praise a leader who imperils his own people so frequently.

Leadership isn't about looking after the well being of your citizens, it's about yelling the loudest and carrying the biggest stick.

It's all marketing with Putin. Sell the man at the forefront, just ignore his track record as far as economics and human rights is concerned. People are fools.

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@HoolaHoopMan said:
@mattbbpl said:

Leadership isn't about looking after the well being of your citizens, it's about yelling the loudest and carrying the biggest stick.

It's all marketing with Putin. Sell the man at the forefront, just ignore his track record as far as economics and human rights is concerned. People are fools.

Replace "Putin" with "Trump" and this would be just as accurate, well said.

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#40  Edited By jun_aka_pekto
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@eliminatorpaige said:

You did it again. You are implying that Russia did that all by itself.

We're talking about Berlin. What other major combatants sent armies to take Berlin beside the Soviets? The US advance stopped at the Elbe River. The British advance also stopped far short of Berlin. Both Western allies considered the Ruhr Valley more valuable real estate because that where all of Germany's industry were at. Berlin was largely symbolic and useless in their general strategy. Of course, the Soviets saw it differently because they had a score to settle. So, the Soviets got the honor of taking Berlin.

There were many US and British bomber raids on Berlin. But, all they did were come and go. Instead of convincing its residents to surrender, all the raids did was piss them off. You need boots on the ground to occupy the city and it was the Soviets who had them.

Let's hear what you have to say.

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#41  Edited By iandizion713
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@jun_aka_pekto: The RAF (Royal) and USAAF bombed Berlin from 1940-1945. France and Russia helped in 1945. By 1945 most Germans had fled. America destroyed Berlins railway service in early 1945 helping support Russian invasion.

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#42  Edited By KHAndAnime
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Obama is one salty fellow. Should he be surprised other world leaders don't take him seriously? We interfere with elections all the time. Regardless if it was Russia, from what we've seen it's been determined it was a phish and not some high-level brute-force hack attack. It was low-level script-kiddy stuff. Doesn't take some uber-hacker to phish someone. Can't blame Russia for the DNC's poor security, or for doing something that we do to other nations ourselves. Big fat hypocrite.

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#43 iandizion713
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@KHAndAnime: Why would he be surprised evil dictators dont like him.

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@jun_aka_pekto said:
@eliminatorpaige said:

You did it again. You are implying that Russia did that all by itself.

We're talking about Berlin. What other major combatants sent armies to take Berlin beside the Soviets? The US advance stopped at the Elbe River. The British advance also stopped far short of Berlin. Both Western allies considered the Ruhr Valley more valuable real estate because that where all of Germany's industry were at. Berlin was largely symbolic and useless in their general strategy. Of course, the Soviets saw it differently because they had a score to settle. So, the Soviets got the honor of taking Berlin.

There were many US and British bomber raids on Berlin. But, all they did were come and go. Instead of convincing its residents to surrender, all the raids did was piss them off. You need boots on the ground to occupy the city and it was the Soviets who had them.

Let's hear what you have to say.

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#45  Edited By luckylucious
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@HoolaHoopMan said:

Putin is only humiliating the average Russian citizen due to rampant crony capitalism and a foreign policy which has resulted in damaging international sanctions. It's amazing to to see people praise a leader who imperils his own people so frequently.

Finally. I'm tired of Republicans pussyfooting around Putin just because he likes Donald. Come on now my fellow conservatives, he is literally the most corporatist, un-american, piece of scum ever to rule Russia.

His appreciation towards Trump should worry the Republican party, not excite them. That being said, the fact that memes are being sent to the US by another foreign nation shows how weakened our foreign policy has truly become under Obama.

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@MarcRecon said:
@firedguy33 said:

this is just a ploy to ruin Trump once he gets in the White House.

A ploy to ruin Trump? Trust me, Trump will be responsible for his own ruin! No matter how hard his cabinet and followers try to protect him, he will ultimately under-mind himself and his twitter account is proof of that. lol

Trump's twitter account is a liability to ruin him indeed, but that doesn't change the fact that what Obama did was childish, stupid and I'm glad Putin is taking the high road because this is nothing but an underhanded move to ruin relations, force Trump to reconcile with other nations and then use that as evidence in whatever the next wild koolaid Clinton/Obama administration wants people to drink.

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#47  Edited By iandizion713
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@firedguy33: Thats funny coming from purple lip Putin puppets.

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@iandizion713 said:

@firedguy33: Thats funny coming from purple lip Putin puppets.

One statement of agreement with Putin humiliating Obama's idiot tactics for his idiot fanbase and now I'm a Putin puppet?

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@firedguy33 said:
@iandizion713 said:

@firedguy33: Thats funny coming from purple lip Putin puppets.

One statement of agreement with Putin humiliating Obama's idiot tactics for his idiot fanbase and now I'm a Putin puppet?

Exactly what a Putin Puppet would say.