Question about growing up

I'm prior service military and was the first of my friends to move out. A few years have passed, I'm back home with mommy and daddy which sucks, not making enough money so I'm enlisting again. Anyways I have this friend who is about to be 22 years old. He hasn't worked anything except a summer job since he was 17. He hasn't went to school or anything. All he does is sit around, watch bad TV shows, and goes to the gym and works out. He wants to be a body builder. He doesn't go out anywhere, doesn't wanna go anywhere, a huge homebody. Anyways, I made a blog on my myspace about why I was enlisting in the military again and how I believe anyone who is out of HS and not in college should be working full-time.

Anyways I'm just wondering, how old do you think someone needs to be before they pop their mommas you know what outta their mouth and grow up?

The beauty of society is that people will think there is an exact age for something like this, when there absolutely is not. People move at different rates, people are all different. spazzx625

True but I think at 22yrs old, you should have done something by now. For 4 yrs he hasn't had a job, other than a summer job. To me theres no excuse for that. Not in school either, so why sit around day after day not doing crap with your life?

[QUOTE="spazzx625"]The beauty of society is that people will think there is an exact age for something like this, when there absolutely is not. People move at different rates, people are all different. SuperMaWiiOH

True but I think at 22yrs old, you should have done something by now. For 4 yrs he hasn't had a job, other than a summer job. To me theres no excuse for that. Not in school either, so why sit around day after day not doing crap with your life?

Working full-time is not fun. At least, that's the vibe I've been getting. I'm 18, and I'm thinking about just wandering for a while, alone throughout the country.

I don't have a lot of money, but stronger and stronger the feeling becomes that it's the only thing that'll sustain a "peace of mind" within me.

Working full-time everyday would probably turn me into a tool and by the time I have money to settle me somewhere I'll be dead inside, always thinking that I had the choice and chance to live my life.

I'm prior service military and was the first of my friends to move out. A few years have passed, I'm back home with mommy and daddy which sucks, not making enough money so I'm enlisting again. Anyways I have this friend who is about to be 22 years old. He hasn't worked anything except a summer job since he was 17. He hasn't went to school or anything. All he does is sit around, watch bad TV shows, and goes to the gym and works out. He wants to be a body builder. He doesn't go out anywhere, doesn't wanna go anywhere, a huge homebody. Anyways, I made a blog on my myspace about why I was enlisting in the military again and how I believe anyone who is out of HS and not in college should be working full-time.

Anyways I'm just wondering, how old do you think someone needs to be before they pop their mommas you know what outta their mouth and grow up?

SuperMaWiiOH

That depends on what part of the world you live in and how your family does things. My cousin moved back into my uncles house after he graduated college and he still live there. Why? No rent.

My aunt lived in my grand parents house her entire life. My uncle moved back in recently.

One of my friends lives in his grandmas basement while my other friend blows all of his money on rent instead of moving in with someone and saving his money so he can invest into something.

You're all high and mighty but you lived in Government Issuedbarracks and you plan on moving back into thebarracks.

My sister is a Registered Nurse and she was considering moving back in with my parents so she could save up for a down payment on a mortgage.

So having family that owns a lot of realestate benefits everyone.

[QUOTE="spazzx625"]The beauty of society is that people will think there is an exact age for something like this, when there absolutely is not. People move at different rates, people are all different. SuperMaWiiOH

True but I think at 22yrs old, you should have done something by now. For 4 yrs he hasn't had a job, other than a summer job. To me theres no excuse for that. Not in school either, so why sit around day after day not doing crap with your life?

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[QUOTE="spazzx625"]The beauty of society is that people will think there is an exact age for something like this, when there absolutely is not. People move at different rates, people are all different. WSGRandomPerson

True but I think at 22yrs old, you should have done something by now. For 4 yrs he hasn't had a job, other than a summer job. To me theres no excuse for that. Not in school either, so why sit around day after day not doing crap with your life?

Depression most likely. Once you lose all initiative it's near impossible to restore it. Maybe he just watches TV because he's alive and he needs something to do to pass the time. Maybe he doesn't want anything so money means nothing to him.Maybe he doesn't care if hewakes up tommorow. Maybe he has given up. Affter all none of this matters. When we die, when the world ends, it doesn't matter.

You ask yourself What do you want in life? What if he doesn't want anything? What incentive wouldhe have?

The beauty of society is that people will think there is an exact age for something like this, when there absolutely is not. People move at different rates, people are all different. spazzx625

[QUOTE="SuperMaWiiOH"]

I'm prior service military and was the first of my friends to move out. A few years have passed, I'm back home with mommy and daddy which sucks, not making enough money so I'm enlisting again. Anyways I have this friend who is about to be 22 years old. He hasn't worked anything except a summer job since he was 17. He hasn't went to school or anything. All he does is sit around, watch bad TV shows, and goes to the gym and works out. He wants to be a body builder. He doesn't go out anywhere, doesn't wanna go anywhere, a huge homebody. Anyways, I made a blog on my myspace about why I was enlisting in the military again and how I believe anyone who is out of HS and not in college should be working full-time.

Anyways I'm just wondering, how old do you think someone needs to be before they pop their mommas you know what outta their mouth and grow up?

MagnumPI

That depends on what part of the world you live in and how your family does things. My cousin moved back into my uncles house after he graduated college and he still live there. Why? No rent.

My aunt lived in my grand parents house her entire life. My uncle moved back in recently.

One of my friends lives in his grandmas basement while my other friend blows all of his money on rent instead of moving in with someone and saving his money so he can invest into something.

You're all high and mighty but you lived in Government Issuedbarracks and you plan on moving back into thebarracks.

My sister is a Registered Nurse and she was considering moving back in with my parents so she could save up for a down payment on a mortgage.

So having family that owns a lot of realestate benefits everyone.

It's not really GOV issued. Actually instead of making $40,000 or so a year, they just pay for that stuff for you. Not all military does this. Canadas military just pays all money, and you get your own place, instead of them getting you a place like US military.

[QUOTE="spazzx625"]The beauty of society is that people will think there is an exact age for something like this, when there absolutely is not. People move at different rates, people are all different. ice_radon

Your in school, totally diff situtation. I'm saying if someone is not in school they have no excuse to be sitting around for years not making any progress in life.

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[QUOTE="spazzx625"]The beauty of society is that people will think there is an exact age for something like this, when there absolutely is not. People move at different rates, people are all different. spazzx625

True but I think at 22yrs old, you should have done something by now. For 4 yrs he hasn't had a job, other than a summer job. To me theres no excuse for that. Not in school either, so why sit around day after day not doing crap with your life?

He should have had a job long before he was 21. Everyone else has either gone to college, joined the military, or work. I couldn't imagine if I was out somewhere and an old friend from school came up to me and asked what I've been doing since we got out of high school and I replied by saying, nothing. I haven't gotton a job, or continued my education in any way. I told him one day he has to move out, he can't stay there forever, he asked me why not?

[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="SuperMaWiiOH"]

[QUOTE="spazzx625"]The beauty of society is that people will think there is an exact age for something like this, when there absolutely is not. People move at different rates, people are all different. SuperMaWiiOH

True but I think at 22yrs old, you should have done something by now. For 4 yrs he hasn't had a job, other than a summer job. To me theres no excuse for that. Not in school either, so why sit around day after day not doing crap with your life?

He should have had a job long before he was 21. Everyone else has either gone to college, joined the military, or work. I couldn't imagine if I was out somewhere and an old friend from school came up to me and asked what I've been doing since we got out of high school and I replied by saying, nothing. I haven't gotton a job, or continued my education in any way. I told him one day he has to move out, he can't stay there forever, he asked me why not?

I'm prior service military and was the first of my friends to move out. A few years have passed, I'm back home with mommy and daddy which sucks, not making enough money so I'm enlisting again. Anyways I have this friend who is about to be 22 years old. He hasn't worked anything except a summer job since he was 17. He hasn't went to school or anything. All he does is sit around, watch bad TV shows, and goes to the gym and works out. He wants to be a body builder. He doesn't go out anywhere, doesn't wanna go anywhere, a huge homebody. Anyways, I made a blog on my myspace about why I was enlisting in the military again and how I believe anyone who is out of HS and not in college should be working full-time.

Anyways I'm just wondering, how old do you think someone needs to be before they pop their mommas you know what outta their mouth and grow up?

SuperMaWiiOH

I'm in the military right now, so probably not the best judge of advice. However, I'll drop my 2 cents. If you're out of High School for over a year, not in college, and working a dead-end job you need to change something. Either go to college through loans, or join the service. If he wants to be a body builder, why doesn't he look into special ops for the Air Force? We're offering pretty decent sign on bonuses for Pararescuemen, SERE, and Combat Controllers.

*edited*: and for all of you who are saying "Who are you to tell someone how to live?" You'll realize it when you're older. It's his friend, and he doesn't want his friend to live a crap life, which is exactly where he's headed. I HATE society as much as the next person, I hate how we HAVE to go to school, get a nice career, have a wife, etc etc, but that's life. It's how it is. He will NOT be happy flipping bugers and living with mom for the rest of his life, neither will any of you.

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I'm prior service military and was the first of my friends to move out. A few years have passed, I'm back home with mommy and daddy which sucks, not making enough money so I'm enlisting again. Anyways I have this friend who is about to be 22 years old. He hasn't worked anything except a summer job since he was 17. He hasn't went to school or anything. All he does is sit around, watch bad TV shows, and goes to the gym and works out. He wants to be a body builder. He doesn't go out anywhere, doesn't wanna go anywhere, a huge homebody. Anyways, I made a blog on my myspace about why I was enlisting in the military again and how I believe anyone who is out of HS and not in college should be working full-time.

Anyways I'm just wondering, how old do you think someone needs to be before they pop their mommas you know what outta their mouth and grow up?

RiSkyBiZ-13

I'm in the military right now, so probably not the best judge of advice. However, I'll drop my 2 cents. If you're out of High School for over a year, not in college, and working a dead-end job you need to change something. Either go to college through loans, or join the service. If he wants to be a body builder, why doesn't he look into special ops for the Air Force? We're offering pretty decent sign on bonuses for Pararescuemen, SERE, and Combat Controllers.

Some people have no interest in "joining the service" and don't support the milatary, signing up is the last thing a lot of people would rather do. I'm in school full time, i'm in it because i enjoy it and have (some) idea what i want to do, however it makes no sense to suggest that everyone should go to college simply because they are out of highschool. If you don't want to be in univeristy, you won't succeed there. You aren't going to do well just because people tell you that is where you should be.

This kid living at home without a job, it really doesn't effect you, who are you to tell him how to run his life?

College isn't for everyone, neither is the military. People have to grow up and make decisions on their own, that's the beauty of life.

[QUOTE="SuperMaWiiOH"][QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="SuperMaWiiOH"]

[QUOTE="spazzx625"]The beauty of society is that people will think there is an exact age for something like this, when there absolutely is not. People move at different rates, people are all different. dooly420

True but I think at 22yrs old, you should have done something by now. For 4 yrs he hasn't had a job, other than a summer job. To me theres no excuse for that. Not in school either, so why sit around day after day not doing crap with your life?

He should have had a job long before he was 21. Everyone else has either gone to college, joined the military, or work. I couldn't imagine if I was out somewhere and an old friend from school came up to me and asked what I've been doing since we got out of high school and I replied by saying, nothing. I haven't gotton a job, or continued my education in any way. I told him one day he has to move out, he can't stay there forever, he asked me why not?

Hey if someone wants to live off of mommy and daddy their whole life...then so be it...don't be mad when everyone else has moved on and made something of themselves.

[QUOTE="spazzx625"]The beauty of society is that people will think there is an exact age for something like this, when there absolutely is not. People move at different rates, people are all different. ice_radon

I totally agree. If you can actually live for free at home and have someone even make dinner for you while you're studying to take the pressure of makes the chances of success even higher.

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"][QUOTE="SuperMaWiiOH"]

I'm prior service military and was the first of my friends to move out. A few years have passed, I'm back home with mommy and daddy which sucks, not making enough money so I'm enlisting again. Anyways I have this friend who is about to be 22 years old. He hasn't worked anything except a summer job since he was 17. He hasn't went to school or anything. All he does is sit around, watch bad TV shows, and goes to the gym and works out. He wants to be a body builder. He doesn't go out anywhere, doesn't wanna go anywhere, a huge homebody. Anyways, I made a blog on my myspace about why I was enlisting in the military again and how I believe anyone who is out of HS and not in college should be working full-time.

Anyways I'm just wondering, how old do you think someone needs to be before they pop their mommas you know what outta their mouth and grow up?

Roland1987

I'm in the military right now, so probably not the best judge of advice. However, I'll drop my 2 cents. If you're out of High School for over a year, not in college, and working a dead-end job you need to change something. Either go to college through loans, or join the service. If he wants to be a body builder, why doesn't he look into special ops for the Air Force? We're offering pretty decent sign on bonuses for Pararescuemen, SERE, and Combat Controllers.

Some people have no interest in "joining the service" and don't support the milatary, signing up is the last thing a lot of people would rather do. I'm in school full time, i'm in it because i enjoy it and have (some) idea what i want to do, however it makes no sense to suggest that everyone should go to college simply because they are out of highschool. If you don't want to be in univeristy, you won't succeed there. You aren't going to do well just because people tell you that is where you should be.

This kid living at home without a job, it really doesn't effect you, who are you to tell him how to run his life?

College isn't for everyone, neither is the military. People have to grow up and make decisions on their own, that's the beauty of life.

I agree, college and the military isn't for everyone. He could get a job. He lies and says he goes out and puts applications in, but no one wants to hire him. He claims people just have a profile on him, people just have a vibe and won't hire him, which is just him being stupid. There are tons of mentally disabled people in this world with jobs, no excuse he can't have one.

[QUOTE="Roland1987"][QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"][QUOTE="SuperMaWiiOH"]

I'm prior service military and was the first of my friends to move out. A few years have passed, I'm back home with mommy and daddy which sucks, not making enough money so I'm enlisting again. Anyways I have this friend who is about to be 22 years old. He hasn't worked anything except a summer job since he was 17. He hasn't went to school or anything. All he does is sit around, watch bad TV shows, and goes to the gym and works out. He wants to be a body builder. He doesn't go out anywhere, doesn't wanna go anywhere, a huge homebody. Anyways, I made a blog on my myspace about why I was enlisting in the military again and how I believe anyone who is out of HS and not in college should be working full-time.

Anyways I'm just wondering, how old do you think someone needs to be before they pop their mommas you know what outta their mouth and grow up?

SuperMaWiiOH

I'm in the military right now, so probably not the best judge of advice. However, I'll drop my 2 cents. If you're out of High School for over a year, not in college, and working a dead-end job you need to change something. Either go to college through loans, or join the service. If he wants to be a body builder, why doesn't he look into special ops for the Air Force? We're offering pretty decent sign on bonuses for Pararescuemen, SERE, and Combat Controllers.

Some people have no interest in "joining the service" and don't support the milatary, signing up is the last thing a lot of people would rather do. I'm in school full time, i'm in it because i enjoy it and have (some) idea what i want to do, however it makes no sense to suggest that everyone should go to college simply because they are out of highschool. If you don't want to be in univeristy, you won't succeed there. You aren't going to do well just because people tell you that is where you should be.

This kid living at home without a job, it really doesn't effect you, who are you to tell him how to run his life?

College isn't for everyone, neither is the military. People have to grow up and make decisions on their own, that's the beauty of life.

I agree, college and the military isn't for everyone. He could get a job. He lies and says he goes out and puts applications in, but no one wants to hire him. He claims people just have a profile on him, people just have a vibe and won't hire him, which is just him being stupid. There are tons of mentally disabled people in this world with jobs, no excuse he can't have one.

I think you can live with your parents for ever long as you want, but should have some kind of job.KillaHalo2o9

I don't think you should live at home unless there's good reason past age 25/26. Can you imagine bringing home a girl at that age to your parents house? Or being the only one of all your friends who hasn't moved out yet?

The beauty of society is that people will think there is an exact age for something like this, when there absolutely is not. People move at different rates, people are all different. spazzx625

[QUOTE="SuperMaWiiOH"][QUOTE="Roland1987"][QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"][QUOTE="SuperMaWiiOH"]

I'm prior service military and was the first of my friends to move out. A few years have passed, I'm back home with mommy and daddy which sucks, not making enough money so I'm enlisting again. Anyways I have this friend who is about to be 22 years old. He hasn't worked anything except a summer job since he was 17. He hasn't went to school or anything. All he does is sit around, watch bad TV shows, and goes to the gym and works out. He wants to be a body builder. He doesn't go out anywhere, doesn't wanna go anywhere, a huge homebody. Anyways, I made a blog on my myspace about why I was enlisting in the military again and how I believe anyone who is out of HS and not in college should be working full-time.

Anyways I'm just wondering, how old do you think someone needs to be before they pop their mommas you know what outta their mouth and grow up?

dooly420

I'm in the military right now, so probably not the best judge of advice. However, I'll drop my 2 cents. If you're out of High School for over a year, not in college, and working a dead-end job you need to change something. Either go to college through loans, or join the service. If he wants to be a body builder, why doesn't he look into special ops for the Air Force? We're offering pretty decent sign on bonuses for Pararescuemen, SERE, and Combat Controllers.

Some people have no interest in "joining the service" and don't support the milatary, signing up is the last thing a lot of people would rather do. I'm in school full time, i'm in it because i enjoy it and have (some) idea what i want to do, however it makes no sense to suggest that everyone should go to college simply because they are out of highschool. If you don't want to be in univeristy, you won't succeed there. You aren't going to do well just because people tell you that is where you should be.

This kid living at home without a job, it really doesn't effect you, who are you to tell him how to run his life?

College isn't for everyone, neither is the military. People have to grow up and make decisions on their own, that's the beauty of life.

I agree, college and the military isn't for everyone. He could get a job. He lies and says he goes out and puts applications in, but no one wants to hire him. He claims people just have a profile on him, people just have a vibe and won't hire him, which is just him being stupid. There are tons of mentally disabled people in this world with jobs, no excuse he can't have one.

I currently work at a grocery store. Every Wednesday mentally disabled kids from a local high school come and work. They could sit around and have the government pay their way through life but they don't.

[QUOTE="spazzx625"]The beauty of society is that people will think there is an exact age for something like this, when there absolutely is not. People move at different rates, people are all different. SpiritEmu

What's his reason?

I hate how some people tell other people what direction they should be headed, when should is subjective and they aren't the ones moving. MeanQuestion

I'm not saying he should be in college...or should be in the military...I'm saying he should be doing something other than sitting around wasting away while everyone else is doing something with their life. I've heard him lie to people who ask him what's he been doing since he graduated. He says he's in college...wonder why he lies? Maybe because he doesn't wanna feel like a dirtbag.

Some people have no interest in "joining the service" and don't support the milatary, signing up is the last thing a lot of people would rather do. I'm in school full time, i'm in it because i enjoy it and have (some) idea what i want to do, however it makes no sense to suggest that everyone should go to college simply because they are out of highschool. If you don't want to be in univeristy, you won't succeed there. You aren't going to do well just because people tell you that is where you should be.

This kid living at home without a job, it really doesn't effect you, who are you to tell him how to run his life?

College isn't for everyone, neither is the military. People have to grow up and make decisions on their own, that's the beauty of life.

Roland1987

It's okay to not support the government. But to not support the military? If that's your view, move out the country. 'Nuff said on that.

As for people living at home until obscene ages, they need to pay their parents money. We're all in debt to our parents for even being here in the first place, it's not right to exploit their obligations.

As for not going to college or joining the service, you find me ONE person that has done neither in the age group of 35+ that doesn't regret it. I'll garuntee you won't find a single one.

I'm all about non-mainstream living, part of the reason I joined the service. There's only one chance to go to school for the experience, and that's between the age groups of 18-25. After that, you missed your window. Same's true for the service.

[QUOTE="SpiritEmu"][QUOTE="spazzx625"]The beauty of society is that people will think there is an exact age for something like this, when there absolutely is not. People move at different rates, people are all different. SuperMaWiiOH

What's his reason?

I guess he doesn't want to leave. Lazy **** he has enough money, he could move if he wants. I hate him.

[QUOTE="MeanQuestion"]I hate how some people tell other people what direction they should be headed, when should is subjective and they aren't the ones moving. SuperMaWiiOH

I'm not saying he should be in college...or should be in the military...I'm saying he should be doing something other than sitting around wasting away while everyone else is doing something with their life. I've heard him lie to people who ask him what's he been doing since he graduated. He says he's in college...wonder why he lies? Maybe because he doesn't wanna feel like a dirtbag.

[QUOTE="spazzx625"]The beauty of society is that people will think there is an exact age for something like this, when there absolutely is not. People move at different rates, people are all different. ice_radon

Please. :)

I'm 18 and I have my own apartment. I work 40 hours a week as a cashier at a grocery chain and barely make enough to cover all my bills. If you aren't going to school, I say get off your lazy ass and work!bunnyofdoom2001

That's actually kind of impressive, not many 18 year olds are living on their own.

[QUOTE="bunnyofdoom2001"]I'm 18 and I have my own apartment. I work 40 hours a week as a cashier at a grocery chain and barely make enough to cover all my bills. If you aren't going to school, I say get off your lazy ass and work!RiSkyBiZ-13

That's actually kind of impressive, not many 18 year olds are living on their own.

People have different viewsrohver

Yup.

I hold envy for anyone that simply gets their foot out the door and does something with their life. I spent my life from my 21st birthday to my 27th recovering from a hugh tumor in my chest that required multiple years of chemotherapy, a month of radiation, and eventually opiate detox last year. I'm now thirty, and my parents still support me. Am I not grown up? I have to tell you guys, I feel jipped. I am pissed at my peers who are now doctors, lawyers, some PhDs, etc. I'm pissed that they had that opportunity while I suffered through hell every week for 2-3 years. Now I find myself with no career skills, years of unemployment, and most jobs that I am qualified for are those that 16-18 year-olds hold.

I'm pissed off at those who don't do anything, sure, but then again I feel who am I to judge? I feel the same way somedays. As someone mentioned, it's different for everyone. It does seriously suck to see everyone around you move forward while simply struggling to survive. But hey, that's life......it goes on, and I'm sure one day I'll see the value of this in retrospect.

But presently I cannot.

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[QUOTE="bunnyofdoom2001"]I'm 18 and I have my own apartment. I work 40 hours a week as a cashier at a grocery chain and barely make enough to cover all my bills. If you aren't going to school, I say get off your lazy ass and work!22Toothpicks

That's actually kind of impressive, not many 18 year olds are living on their own.

You are a prime of example of being independant. You are someone that people who don't wanna go to college should be looking up to (at least in terms of having a job and being independant).

He probably won't get anywhere, regardless of how good of a body builder he becomes, if he doesn't have an ultimate goal in mind (even beyond what you want to do with yourself) or if he has no connections. The later is one of the main downfalls of people who graduate from high school, but don't go to college, but that's not to say that it is impossible to do so. No one has to be employed full time while working towards their goals as long as they are proactive, and one has little to do with the other. jetpower3

More to the story since some people are not convinced. As I stated before, he lies to people he sees that he knows when they ask him what he's doing in life (says hes in school). Since he wants to be a body builder everyone has told him he should be a personal trainer, that's right up his alley. His excuse for not going to school for that is that he doesn't wanna train people who just wanna be in shape, or soccer moms, he only wants to train people who want insanly strick diets like his, and who wanna do hardcore workouts like his.

On top of that, he lies and says he puts applications in which he really doesn't he just says that. He also never calls the companies to check the status of his (fake) application and says that if a company wants to hire you they will do it on their own. I asked him just over a month ago if he wanted to go to this job fair for this grocery store with me. His excuse was that he didn't wanna work in a grocery store. I wanted to say, well you don't wanna work anywhere with mommas **tty in your mouth.

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[QUOTE="bunnyofdoom2001"]I'm 18 and I have my own apartment. I work 40 hours a week as a cashier at a grocery chain and barely make enough to cover all my bills. If you aren't going to school, I say get off your lazy ass and work!22Toothpicks

That's actually kind of impressive, not many 18 year olds are living on their own.

So what have you accomplished living on your own? You work 40 hours a week in a dead end job just trying to get by....fun times.

Living at home isn't for you, fine, that's great. It doesn't put you on a level above anyone else.

People live there own lives, if people are irratated by others, whose activity doesn't effect you, they need a hobby or something. Live and let live.